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mineral · 5 May 2018, 11:15 AM

Sub non date for me too as I like the more balanced look.

marcellomatt5 · 5 May 2018, 11:28 AM

I have the 16610 and the 16610lv, but if a perfect 14060M two liner appears to me in a trade by the 16610, i will think a lot. To me it’s the most cool sub after the LV. The uniques advantages in a date sub are they can had SEL and engraved rehaut (over the two liner, I don’t like the four liner).

If both are without SEL or EH take the no date.

brandrea · 5 May 2018, 11:52 AM

Submariner here

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cdlerx · 5 May 2018, 12:07 PM

Owned both, its really a personal choice. Cant really go wrong depending on if you need or like the cyclops or not.

You · 5 May 2018, 12:13 PM

I really like the ND Sub just looks real nice.

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uncle_paul_hargis · 5 May 2018, 01:46 PM

Both are great and subject to personal preferences. One isn’t better than the other. I would consider the Submariner to be the “purist” model, will the Submariner date just has one more functionality. I have my Sub Date 16610 incoming tomorrow! My heart was pulling towards no date, but my Speedy has no date and constantly find myself looking at it wishing the date was there.

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Brny11 · 5 May 2018, 09:20 PM

I've had both. Was initially sold on historical WIS justification for no date. Didn't last long. Sub date is more practical as a one and only IMO. Maybe if I had a hulk or SD, no date would be fine. But my ideal two watch combo would be SubC date and Explorer 1.

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jph4387 · 5 May 2018, 09:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fabrice M

I love the no date, but can’t live without the date. So date for me.

Same here. I bought a 114060 and actually prefer it. However, it got old looking at my watch like i'm used to in order to find the date and so I eventually traded for a 116610.

My advice, if it's a daily, get the date.

Bt122 · 5 May 2018, 10:24 PM

No date. Got too many watches with a date + it’s so much easier setting time only since I’m lazy. And it’s clean looking.

MCO1 · 5 May 2018, 10:54 PM

I like the 5 digit and early cases best but have no issue with the 6 digit cases. How about we call the Submariner that does not have a date the Original as its hard to argue it is not since it was born first. I think if it is a real Rolex and has the word Submariner on the dial it is indeed a Submariner. Just my thoughts though.

Rags · 5 May 2018, 11:19 PM

I prefer my 16610 over the new model. I like the case better but I would prefer the glidelock and the maxi dial with larger hands.

Roly25 · 8 May 2018, 03:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rags

I prefer my 16610 over the new model. I like the case better but I would prefer the glidelock and the maxi dial with larger hands.

I agree, I wish they made a transition model with the old style case with a glidelock and ceramic bezel. Would have been winner.

GarbanzoNegro · 8 May 2018, 05:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roly25

I agree, I wish they made a transition model with the old style case with a glidelock and ceramic bezel. Would have been winner.

That would be simply awesome. :-)

katiedaddy · 8 May 2018, 05:56 AM

Sub ND for me, too bad I can’t post pics yet.
NM, I can now.

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Roly25 · 9 May 2018, 10:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by katiedaddy

Sub ND for me, too bad I can’t post pics yet.
NM, I can now.

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Nice Sub! Question does the four liner come with SEL?

samson66 · 9 May 2018, 10:35 PM

The no date looks better IMO, nice balanced dial. But I know when I wear my black bay I find myself looking down at the watch for the date a couple times per day at least. You don't realize how often you use the date feature until you don't have one. If I was getting a one-and-only watch I think it would have to have a date function.

houls61 · 9 May 2018, 10:58 PM

Submariner

Roly25 · 9 May 2018, 11:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by samson66

The no date looks better IMO, nice balanced dial. But I know when I wear my black bay I find myself looking down at the watch for the date a couple times per day at least. You don't realize how often you use the date feature until you don't have one. If I was getting a one-and-only watch I think it would have to have a date function.

I know that is the problem I am having with both my Rolex watches.

katiedaddy · 9 May 2018, 11:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roly25

Nice Sub! Question does the four liner come with SEL?

Unfortunately they are hollow endlinks.

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mementomori1983 · 10 May 2018, 03:19 AM

The 5-digit Sub ND is such an incredible watch. Consider the beautiful, uncluttered symmetry of the dial. The slimmer profile and lighter weight which make it a dream to wear. The fact that it shares its DNA with the very first no-date Submariners designed by Rolex in the early 50's. To me the Sub ND is the ultimate no-nonsense Rolex watch.

Been wearing my 16710 so much lately that I've forgotten how beautiful my 14060m is. Then I put it on and I'm quickly reminded why it's been a staple of my collection.

dba · 10 May 2018, 03:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rags

I prefer my 16610 over the new model. I like the case better but I would prefer the glidelock and the maxi dial with larger hands.

I'd like maxi dial and larger hands also. The glidelock is just a bonus.

904VT · 10 May 2018, 04:05 AM

6 digit LN Date is my favorite. The Sub is the original, but I think the Date has become more of the flagship over the years for the line. At least until, the movement quality was put on more equal ground with the newer 6 digit updates. I go with Daytonas when i don't feel like a date function.

mray6375 · 22 May 2018, 09:31 AM

Guess I’m a date guy but the submariner is sharp as well.

Justinmg · 22 May 2018, 09:38 AM

There is only one SUB.

the SD used to be the coolest date watch till they inflated it for no reason and slapped a magnifying glass on it... so sad

but hey not much is left of the Rolex tool watch

81sforlife · 22 May 2018, 11:29 AM

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Finslayer83 · 22 May 2018, 11:53 AM

LAWW mod is the way...

Will be here tomorrow.

Horosman · 24 May 2018, 08:11 AM

All other things being equal (price, appearance, utility, personal preference, etc.), which will have a greater anticipated appreciation, or lesser anticipated depreciation in value, the 114060 Submariner or the 116610 Submariner Date in the next 5-15 or more years.

DylanFox · 24 May 2018, 09:15 AM

Grey always has the date valued higher

DylanFox · 24 May 2018, 09:28 AM

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DylanFox · 24 May 2018, 09:32 AM

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Not sure what happened with that last pic haha

5 May 2018, 11:15 AM	#61
mineral "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 3,670	Sub non date for me too as I like the more balanced look. __________________ Watching date changes every midnight

5 May 2018, 11:28 AM	#62
marcellomatt5 "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2016 Real Name: Marcello Location: Rio de Janeiro Watch: 16610lv / 16610LN Posts: 146	I have the 16610 and the 16610lv, but if a perfect 14060M two liner appears to me in a trade by the 16610, i will think a lot. To me it’s the most cool sub after the LV. The uniques advantages in a date sub are they can had SEL and engraved rehaut (over the two liner, I don’t like the four liner). If both are without SEL or EH take the no date. __________________ Rolex 116520 Black \| 116622 Platinum \| 16710 Coke \| 16610LV \| 16610LN \| 1601 Omega Speedmaster Professional JLC Reverso Grande Taille Longines Legend Diver

5 May 2018, 11:19 PM	#71
Rags 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Real Name: Chuck Location: SW Florida Watch: 16233,16610,214270 Posts: 11,183	I prefer my 16610 over the new model. I like the case better but I would prefer the glidelock and the maxi dial with larger hands. __________________ 16233 Y Serial Datejust 16610 Z Serial Submariner 214270 Explorer *114300 Oyster Perpetual* *76200 Tudor Date+Day*

8 May 2018, 05:56 AM	#74
katiedaddy "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: DC Watch: Rolex Posts: 268	Submariner vs Submariner Date Sub ND for me, too bad I can’t post pics yet. NM, I can now. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

9 May 2018, 10:58 PM	#77
houls61 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2017 Location: Boston, MA Watch: 116610LN Sub Date Posts: 416	Submariner __________________ Rolex GMT Master II 126710BLRO Rolex Submariner Date 116610LN Breitling Superocean 2 Tag Heuer Calibre 17 CAY2112 Chrono

5 May 2018, 11:52 AM	#63
brandrea 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Real Name: Brian (TBone) Location: canada Watch: es make me smile Posts: 73,697	Submariner here Sent from my SM-G935W8 using Tapatalk

5 May 2018, 12:07 PM	#64
cdlerx Banned Join Date: Mar 2018 Location: Usa Posts: 99	Owned both, its really a personal choice. Cant really go wrong depending on if you need or like the cyclops or not.

5 May 2018, 12:13 PM	#65
You "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2016 Location: Beverly Hills, CA Watch: Platinum Daytona Posts: 785	I really like the ND Sub just looks real nice. Sent from my SM-G965U using Tapatalk

5 May 2018, 01:46 PM	#66
uncle_paul_hargis "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: Corona, CA Posts: 289	Both are great and subject to personal preferences. One isn’t better than the other. I would consider the Submariner to be the “purist” model, will the Submariner date just has one more functionality. I have my Sub Date 16610 incoming tomorrow! My heart was pulling towards no date, but my Speedy has no date and constantly find myself looking at it wishing the date was there. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

5 May 2018, 09:20 PM	#67
Brny11 "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2016 Real Name: Brian Location: Florida Posts: 2,456	I've had both. Was initially sold on historical WIS justification for no date. Didn't last long. Sub date is more practical as a one and only IMO. Maybe if I had a hulk or SD, no date would be fine. But my ideal two watch combo would be SubC date and Explorer 1. Sent from my SM-G950U using Tapatalk

5 May 2018, 10:24 PM	#69
Bt122 Banned Join Date: Mar 2018 Location: Bi coastal Watch: Ok...Watching Posts: 937	No date. Got too many watches with a date + it’s so much easier setting time only since I’m lazy. And it’s clean looking.

5 May 2018, 10:54 PM	#70
MCO1 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Missouri USA Watch: Daytona C white Posts: 2,248	I like the 5 digit and early cases best but have no issue with the 6 digit cases. How about we call the Submariner that does not have a date the Original as its hard to argue it is not since it was born first. I think if it is a real Rolex and has the word Submariner on the dial it is indeed a Submariner. Just my thoughts though.

9 May 2018, 10:35 PM	#76
samson66 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Real Name: Mike Location: Eastern Shore, MD Watch: my money leaving! Posts: 12,906	The no date looks better IMO, nice balanced dial. But I know when I wear my black bay I find myself looking down at the watch for the date a couple times per day at least. You don't realize how often you use the date feature until you don't have one. If I was getting a one-and-only watch I think it would have to have a date function.

10 May 2018, 03:19 AM	#80
mementomori1983 "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: SF Bay Area Posts: 667	The 5-digit Sub ND is such an incredible watch. Consider the beautiful, uncluttered symmetry of the dial. The slimmer profile and lighter weight which make it a dream to wear. The fact that it shares its DNA with the very first no-date Submariners designed by Rolex in the early 50's. To me the Sub ND is the ultimate no-nonsense Rolex watch. Been wearing my 16710 so much lately that I've forgotten how beautiful my 14060m is. Then I put it on and I'm quickly reminded why it's been a staple of my collection.

22 May 2018, 09:38 AM	#84
Justinmg "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Real Name: Justin Location: FL Watch: PO Posts: 3,353	There is only one SUB. the SD used to be the coolest date watch till they inflated it for no reason and slapped a magnifying glass on it... so sad but hey not much is left of the Rolex tool watch __________________ //////////////////////////////// Member of The Nylon Nation Does it do anything? It tells the time.

22 May 2018, 11:29 AM	#85
81sforlife "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2018 Real Name: J Location: CO Watch: Sub & ExpII Posts: 554	Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________

24 May 2018, 08:11 AM	#87
Horosman "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2018 Location: Michigan Posts: 2	All other things being equal (price, appearance, utility, personal preference, etc.), which will have a greater anticipated appreciation, or lesser anticipated depreciation in value, the 114060 Submariner or the 116610 Submariner Date in the next 5-15 or more years.

24 May 2018, 09:15 AM	#88
DylanFox Banned Join Date: Mar 2018 Location: New York Posts: 244	Grey always has the date valued higher

24 May 2018, 09:28 AM	#89
DylanFox Banned Join Date: Mar 2018 Location: New York Posts: 244	B054FC87-71FF-46C6-8FF8-E707C2E6ECFA.jpeg

24 May 2018, 09:32 AM	#90
DylanFox Banned Join Date: Mar 2018 Location: New York Posts: 244	4C4B0ED8-F2BD-42B9-9D1C-598B99D600B8.jpeg Not sure what happened with that last pic haha

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