My apologies to DavidSW and the forum

[Abdullah71601]

Originally Posted by directioneng

But I do need it really badly Abdullah.

Shall I low ball him?


Damn...missed it.

In this case your low ball offer will still be above MSRP

[superdog]

Originally Posted by AK797

Actually I am glad of this thread and this forum. Most people think Rolex wearers don't care about money and are conspicuous consumers who flash the cash whenever they feel like buying some bauble for everyone to admire and envy. Well, this forum shows we are just as tight as everyone else and always hustling for a good deal.

brother, this is probably the most frugal group out there.

besides "is it safe" the most common thread I think is "what kind of discount can I get".

[Andad]

Originally Posted by Tony64

Hopefully then no one here would ever be offended by "lowball" offers from a buyer, just as they are not bothered by "highball" offers from a seller.

I think a key unknown in this equation is what price the reseller paid initially? If he paid 50% over retail then he's just passing along his cost plus profit. Certainly no one would object to that. On the other hand, if the reseller paid list price and is now exploiting the market based on limited availability then I personally would not have a problem with that either, though I understand those who might. It's capitalism. It's a business decision. No different than scalping tickets. Oh wait, probably not the best example.

What happens when supply catches up with demand? Presumably the discounts will return. Will the reseller now be stuck with overpriced inventory? Again, depends on his original acquisition cost. Another question. How was the reseller able to obtain the product originally? Waiting in line for days in front of the Apple Store to buy the first 'whatever' comes with a price, and should reasonably be passed on to the next buyer. Waiting in line for days in front of the Apple Store to buy the ENTIRE supply of 'whatever' to then resell at double the price seems a bit Machiavellian.

Bottom line. If I was able to walk into an AD tomorrow and buy the new ceramic at retail, and could resell it at double the price, would I? You bet I would, and you would too! Would I sell it to my friend at double the retail? Of course not.

Don't mix friends and business. At double the price you're not his friend- you're his client. Understand this and there's no controversy or hard feelings.

Originally Posted by Abdullah71601

In this case your low ball offer will still be above MSRP

Above MSRP from Scot?

[Andad]

Originally Posted by superdog

brother, this is probably the most frugal group out there.

besides "is it safe" the most common thread I think is "what kind of discount can I get".

Hey Seth,

Are you still happy with your Bugatti Chiron?

[superdog]

Originally Posted by directioneng

Hey Seth,

Are you still happy with your Bugatti Chiron?

I had to dump it.

I got bored.

[Patton250]

Originally Posted by KarlS

I don't think this is an appropriate forum for an economic theory discussion and happy to take this offline if you like. When supply outstrips demand prices will drop! That's a fact and a prediction! I predict that an apple falling from a trip will hit the ground!! Prediction is generally based on fact not supposition!

No need because that is what I and my entire family does for a living. I appreciate it though.

[Andad]

You grow apples Brett?....

[joe100]

It's his watch, he can charge double retail if he wants. It's one of the first in the country on the reseller market and if someone wants one now, they'll pay for it.

If I had a 114500, you better bet your shorts I'd be selling it north of $20k too.

[HERITAGE82]

Originally Posted by Old Expat Beast

No need to apologise. You're entitled to your opinion.

X 2... Its a free market for him to ask whatever he wants for the Daytona C and we also have freedom of speech for you to voice your opinion

[HERITAGE82]

Originally Posted by gwozhog

I have one simple rule in life when it comes to the Internet. When I start making apologies to complete strangers on line who I know I will never meet or see it's time to put down the iPad and go clean Jacko's dog poo up in the back yard. I have just spent way to much time plugged in. Hope this helps you.

[cdmorenot]

I was one of the first ones to jump at your comment but it was merely from a business perspective.

As a human being you are free to say whatever you please and at the time, you felt that your response was valid.

I applaud you for the apology but I do not think you needed to apologize to anyone.



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[Investr]

No apologies needed!!! Hes a guy here peddling watches and probably making a fine living off of all of us......

[TheVTCGuy]

I too, think it was very nice of you to apologize. I met David at the GTG in Vegas, and all kidding aside, he is a professional, a gentleman, and a good person. I have heard nothing but good (great) things about his business and wouldn't hesitate to buy from him. As for the prices he charges, hey, it's the buyer that decides if it's appropriate or not. If David made a profit on that watch, more power to him.

P.S. I only know that I am paying retail, and getting the first one that makes it to my AD (Ben Bridge)

[andromeda160]

Originally Posted by joe100

It's his watch, he can charge double retail if he wants. It's one of the first in the country on the reseller market and if someone wants one now, they'll pay for it.

If I had a 114500, you better bet your shorts I'd be selling it north of $20k too.

X2, I'd put 25 on it and let em lowball me to 20, not his fault Rolex enthusiasts are a bunch of whack jobs with deep pockets rofl


Remember when SS Daytonas were selling for above MSRP for a good 5 year+ period? People gladly payed it too.


And there really was no need for an apology, paying that price should be more insulting to the purchasers intelligence than anything. David's just doing his job

[GB-man]

Originally Posted by 77T

This isn't Valeant or Turing Pharma territory so what a dealer asks is always up for negotiation. Asking price isn't always final price.
If we were talking monopoly power then another matter - but a free competitive marketplace should allow for a superior and profitable value proposition.
Does anyone here wish to guess the margin for a single bottle of Pepsi if you only considered the COGS?
Methinks David is underneath that margin even at that price.

It's not even close the markup on a single bottle of Pepsi only considering cogs is something like 10x

[Ferdelious]

It might be fair to say that he did not get this watch at his normal wholesale price? Therefore, profiting less than some are speculating and not being the greedy capitalist bastard they might have thought. Either way, someone bought it and they weren't offended by the price, that's all that matters.

[WristEnvy]

I've bought two watches from Davidsw and the likelihood is I'll buy from him again. I just won't buy a DaytonaC from him anytime soon. I'll let the uber rich folks do that!



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[kaiserphoenix]

I think since this is a public forum, everyone is entitled to an opinion so I think it is fair what you said.

I have dealt with DavidSw many times and hes 100% reliable and a solid dealer for me. He really is a great guy.