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Old 10 May 2016, 02:16 PM   #1
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Calling all Porsche enthusiasts

So I'm seriously considering a Cayman, or Boxster because frankly that's all I can get without breaking my bank, my only issue is that in my opinion, it's not fast enough and doesn't make any burbly noises. To be honest, that is a huge must for me, other options is the C450, but isn't quite a roadster. My question is, is there anyway to tune it up, make it faster and increase the exhaust noise on downshifts etc also without breaking the bank. Is anyone leasing them to give me an idea on what the payments are etc? Looking forward to hear from you gents!


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Old 10 May 2016, 02:39 PM   #2
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There's only one heaven . . . . 911 !
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Old 10 May 2016, 02:41 PM   #3
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There's only one heaven . . . . 911 !


Ugh, I know 😢
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Old 10 May 2016, 02:42 PM   #4
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Ugh, I know 😢
Than get one - you won't regret !

If you like the older ones look for a 1983 3.0 SC Convertible

Or a 1988/89 3.2 G50

Otherwise a Coupe in the same years 👍

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Old 10 May 2016, 02:45 PM   #5
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Than get one - you won't regret !

If you like the older ones look for a 1983 3.0 SC Convertible

Or a 1988/89 3.2 G50

Otherwise a Coupe in the same years 👍

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I know I won't, but I don't think I'm ready for a 1k+ monthly payment
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Old 10 May 2016, 02:47 PM   #6
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Than get one of the first Boxter
5k and it's yours
Plenti out there

Or get one of these Porsche :
928 S4
944 Turbo
968

Not loved by 911 die-hards but real nice drivers - especially the 928 S4 or GT(S)

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Old 10 May 2016, 04:36 PM   #7
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As you are looking for a lease, you are looking for a new car which you are not gonna keep longer than 2-4 years, correct?*

What you have to know is, that Porsche recently changed to 4 cylinder Boxer Turbo engines for both Cayman and Boxster.
The first 4 cylinder Boxsters are in the showrooms since last week, the Cayman will follow in autumn.

Here - you can't get new Cayman/Boxsters anymore with 6 cylinder as the demand was crazy for them.

You can hardly compare the 4 cylinder engine to the 6 or any other 8 cylinder in terms of Sound. But for sure the Turbos can be easily tuned to increase performance and the sports exaust gives some extra sound and burbly noises.

So, before researching any further, hear the new engines and if you don't like the new one (I don't) then you will have to move to another maker.


*I am more a keeping person and therefore, I'd never tune a Porsche
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Old 10 May 2016, 06:04 PM   #9
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As you are looking for a lease, you are looking for a new car which you are not gonna keep longer than 2-4 years, correct?*

What you have to know is, that Porsche recently changed to 4 cylinder Boxer Turbo engines for both Cayman and Boxster.
The first 4 cylinder Boxsters are in the showrooms since last week, the Cayman will follow in autumn.

Here - you can't get new Cayman/Boxsters anymore with 6 cylinder as the demand was crazy for them.

You can hardly compare the 4 cylinder engine to the 6 or any other 8 cylinder in terms of Sound. But for sure the Turbos can be easily tuned to increase performance and the sports exaust gives some extra sound and burbly noises.

So, before researching any further, hear the new engines and if you don't like the new one (I don't) then you will have to move to another maker.


*I am more a keeping person and therefore, I'd never tune a Porsche
Same here, I tried to order one of the last 6-cyl Caymans in February this year and no way, all sold out until the end of production.

If you can get a late 2015 one with a few K miles on it then it will hold it's value very well and may be future collectors car as the final 981 6-Cyl series was only made for about 2 years.
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Old 10 May 2016, 06:20 PM   #10
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The 981 Boxster and Cayman have been discontinued -- the S models had the 3.4 flat six from your standard Carrera if memory serves me right. They don't sound too bad at all, especially with valves open.

For everything else, there is Akrapovic. I'll post a video when I get home later tonight.
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Old 11 May 2016, 12:43 AM   #11
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The Cayman S is about as close to a perfect car as one can get. I like them more than the 911 and have extensive experience with both. When it's time for the BMW to go to secondary status, a Cayman will be in my future
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Old 11 May 2016, 01:08 AM   #12
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With the sports exhaust it does make burbly noise.

Yep don't get the 4 pot. Older flat 6 what you want, with an S.

325hp is not enough??

Ideally you want the GT4 or even better the Boxster Spyder, looks so good has 375hp. 2nd hand ones probably cost more than new, as LE.
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Old 11 May 2016, 01:17 AM   #13
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What are you coming from? Unless it's quite fast the Cayman won't feel slow. I had a 991 C2 and very nearly went Cayman S. If I had the spare funds I would've picked up the boxster spyder my dealer had
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Old 11 May 2016, 03:19 AM   #14
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I've had like three Mercedes Benz E-350, in fact I work in a Mercedes Benz dealer as well, their cars are great but just too much computers and not letting the human drive the car


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Old 11 May 2016, 05:05 AM   #15
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Porsches are great but they just don't have that "sound" in general... As compared to a Maserati or a f-type.. Even with those sports exhausts. Maybe it's just me lol


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Old 11 May 2016, 05:37 AM   #16
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325 HP and sport exhaust. Find the HP plenty, and actually like the exhaust note with the push of a button.
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Old 11 May 2016, 08:34 AM   #17
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I am tossing up between an AM Vantage 4.3 vs a 911 Carrera, circa 2007-8 vintage for next car, buying new in Oz is well outside my range of comfort.

I can't see you going wrong with a Cayman S, i like the new shape, not much a fan of the old. The mid engine cayman is by all accounts a better driving proposition, but the 911 has the history, but is more expensive.
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All you have to do is get the right exhaust package.
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Old 11 May 2016, 11:16 AM   #19
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What is your budget?

Porsche leases are expensive. They are not like MB or BMW leases.

As stated above, 718 is turbo flat 4. Sound is the most common complaint so far. But if you are not used to the noise of the flat 6, you probably won't know what you are missing.

Adding PSE definitely helps in the noise department. However, beware that PSE gets louder when car is fully broken in. Just keep that in mind when test driving low mileage demo.

There is a lot of trash talk right now on the forum with 981 owners complaining about the noise of the 718. I have yet to drive one. I am thinking turbo flat 4 will be a better DD overall.

I have a 991.1 C2S. ie NA flat 6. No question the car comes alive above 4,000rpm and sounds great doing so. Am actually contemplating picking up a 718 Boxster S as a manual toy. So keeping my mind open until I have test driven one. I am actually waiting a year to pick one up just to be out of the first year pain of a new model.
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Like Dyim above asked,what is your budget?
Can you swing a decent 997 Turbo?
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Old 11 May 2016, 12:14 PM   #21
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Ideally I would like to be between 6-800 a month. 800 is if I absolutely adore the car and can justify it. Don't know how realistic this is


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You have to look at the used market.
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So I'm seriously considering a Cayman, or Boxster because frankly that's all I can get without breaking my bank, my only issue is that in my opinion, it's not fast enough and doesn't make any burbly noises. To be honest, that is a huge must for me, other options is the C450, but isn't quite a roadster. My question is, is there anyway to tune it up, make it faster and increase the exhaust noise on downshifts etc also without breaking the bank. Is anyone leasing them to give me an idea on what the payments are etc? Looking forward to hear from you gents!


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Not sure how fast you need to get to a ticket?Had one of these for a summer(bought a new house had to sell)most fun I have ever had ! Top down very quick, I think it's close to a 50-50 balance..drives like a slot car.Less than 30Gs and you can even get into one cheaper with a little higher miles.Built like a brick crap house too.I will get another one some day !!
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Still drive my 996 Targa

Love it . . . Mrs even more
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Ideally I would like to be between 6-800 a month. 800 is if I absolutely adore the car and can justify it. Don't know how realistic this is


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You might be able to pull a lightly optioned cayman for ~800 but I would look at an m4 for that price range. Great car I just got rid of mine. It's stupid fast and relatively luxurious for the money. Mine was loaded to the gills and payment was 780 with first due at singing. If I could have done it again...I would have ordered it lightly optioned! Carbon cloth interior..no executive package etc it's a more compelling value that way

My 991 was about 1100 per month and it was a lightly optioned C2. Unfortunately at the time the caymans didn't have a high residual like the 911s therefore the leases weren't that competitive. Maybe times have changed..

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Many 997 911s (05-12) options are phenomenal cars. Ive had 2 and miss them both! Best part that after having each one for over a year - I profited on both. Minimal maintenance! Hence the power of the 911 :)

I would recommend going that route as depreciation is all but nonexistent anymore on the earlier models and its a terrific product for what it can be picked up now for. For even less worry (and to avoid the IMS issue) pick up to 09+ carrera / s or find a clean manual turbo - you wont lose a dime on the car over years to come.
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Here's my video of the 981 Boxster fitted with Akra:
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Try getting your hands on a Cayman R, just a little better than the S, but also a good investment. If you are lucky to find one with low millage you will enjoy it and in a few years be able to sell it for the same or more....
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The Boxster 986 or 987 will give you a lot of car for your money. Don't forget the engine is in the correct position unlike the 911

If you need more engine sound get a carnewal exhaust
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I ran a 911 (997 3.8L) for four years before trading it for a new Cayman 2.7L. The Cayman is in general a much better car IMO, although it's slower in a straight line. The problem with the 911 is that it is too fast for public roads, so you never really get the chance to properly rag it. With the Cayman, you have many more opportunities to wring it out.

I wouldn't bother with a sports exhaust as the engine is a foot behind your posterior and is plenty loud enough in stock form.

Oh, and the Cayman is the prettiest car Porsche make by a long chalk. It's gorgeous from every angle.

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