Advice for Patek newbie

[Alford78]

Originally Posted by PJ S

What does stainless steel have to do with sports watches? Plenty of other materials are available.
In FPJ’s case, they went with titanium & aluminium alloy, and Moser does have a steel Pioneer, which is their take on a sports watch.

https://www.hodinkee.com/articles/fp...sport-titanium
http://watchesbysjx.com/2017/03/h-mo...-in-steel.html

If the steel Moser had the black inserts like the gold one then I would pick it up in a heartbeat. I just love the look of the gold model with the added contrast too much to try the SS version. I have been trying to get a feel for what kind of discount can be had on them without much luck so will most likely have to buy preowned. They are no different than Lange or FPJ depreciation wise.

[AK797]

Originally Posted by PJ S

What does stainless steel have to do with sports watches? Plenty of other materials are available.
In FPJ’s case, they went with titanium & aluminium alloy, and Moser does have a steel Pioneer, which is their take on a sports watch.

https://www.hodinkee.com/articles/fp...sport-titanium
http://watchesbysjx.com/2017/03/h-mo...-in-steel.html

Cheers for that, I like the smoky grey fumé on the RG/DLC Moser, I'd like to check that out one day.

http://watchesbysjx.com/2015/10/intr...h-pricing.html

[Alford78]

Originally Posted by AK797

Cheers for that, I like the smoky grey fumé on the RG/DLC Moser, I'd like to check that out one day.

http://watchesbysjx.com/2015/10/intr...h-pricing.html

That's my favorite as well. Couldn't get AD to budge on price but wanted to discount an LE instead.

[SBC1986]

Originally Posted by rw2008

Hello all,

My apologies for asking a question I'm sure has been addressed.

I'm very interested in a 5712, and this being my first Patek, I'm looking for advice.

1) I have no existing relationship with the only Patek AD in my state. So am I going to be laughed out of the store if I ask about a 5712 list (a la DaytonaC)?

2) If my lack of a relationship with local Patek AD means getting one is going to be extremely difficult, I am open to going gray market. My hesitation here is with the papers. How does one get the piece serviced without having your name on the papers? If I go to the same AD (who don't know me) to get it sized, is that going to be an issue?

At the end of the day, I'd love to go the AD route, but not if it's going to be a Rolex Daytona-esque runaround with a mythical list and waiting time while I "build up" my status buying other watches I only half want.

Thanks in advance to anyone who answers.

At least in California, AD's have had the 5712 in stock. Beautiful watch but not an ultra allocated piece. Don't let them push you around. Just Saying :)

I love that watch btw.

[Hollister]

Originally Posted by AK797

Cheers for that, I like the smoky grey fumé on the RG/DLC Moser, I'd like to check that out one day.

http://watchesbysjx.com/2015/10/intr...h-pricing.html

Yes, the grey would be my pick as well.

[KarlS]

Weapons grade tit? Is that a type of bird or something on Arnaud's watch?

As for sports watches just dawned on me that I am wearing a Rolex BLNR today.

[PJ S]

Originally Posted by KarlS

Weapons grade tit? Is that a type of bird or something on Arnaud's watch?

No, you’re thinking of great tits – neither of which apply.

[KarlS]

Originally Posted by PJ S

No, you’re thinking of great tits – neither of which apply.

Actually u were the one who picked up that the original engraving was a bit substandard and you were correct. It had to get redone!

[rw2008]

Thanks to everyone for their advice.

Really appreciate the kindness of everyone on this forum to help out people who are relatively new in their watch hobby.