5170 vs als 1815 chrono?

[dchang81]

seems that the patek is the better "deal" considering market pricing vs msrp but anyone have both or switched one for the other? love the white dial 1815 with blue markers. not sure why they call it a boutique edition though when i see them at dealers.

[toucan]

I have a 5170g and am strongly considering the 1815 black face. The ALS is great looking.
I would keep both !

[Tony64]

Originally Posted by dchang81

seems that the patek is the better "deal" considering market pricing vs msrp but anyone have both or switched one for the other? love the white dial 1815 with blue markers. not sure why they call it a boutique edition though when i see them at dealers.

I thought the boutique edition had silver hands rather than blue, and also added the pulsimeter scale vs the regular.

As for pricing, when I compared these two watches several years ago the 1815 chrono could be had for around 10-15k less than the Patek making the Lange the better "deal"

[ap1]

Black dial ALS for me

[GB-man]

Haven't owned either but I have contemplated each many many times.

5170 would be my pick. Dial and case far surpass the 1815 for me and while the Lange movement takes the cake...it's not great enough to touch the dial, case and fit of the Patek.

[KarlS]

Price differential too large to make a fair comparison. Fan of both but based purely on the aesthetics it's 5270G for ne

[KarlS]

Price differential too large to make a fair comparison. Fan of both but based purely on the aesthetics it's 5170G for ne

[KarlS]

Price differential too large to make a fair comparison. Fan of both but based purely on the aesthetics it's 5170G for me

[lapince]

Originally Posted by KarlS

Price differential too large to make a fair comparison. Fan of both but based purely on the aesthetics it's 5270G for ne

Originally Posted by KarlS

Price differential too large to make a fair comparison. Fan of both but based purely on the aesthetics it's 5170G for ne

Originally Posted by KarlS

Price differential too large to make a fair comparison. Fan of both but based purely on the aesthetics it's 5170G for me

My friend, are you taking your Alzheimer pills or are you forgetting again?

[KarlS]

Originally Posted by lapince

My friend, are you taking your Alzheimer pills or are you forgetting again?

Seems my edit of 5270 to a 5170 went pear shaped

[mps354]

I have both the 5170g white dial and wg 1815 chrono (original version). I keep going back and forth over which to keep. I like the case and raised breguet numerals better on the Patek, and the movement and additional color of the Lange (dark numerals, blued hands). I'll post some pics shortly

[codecow]

For the price 1815 Chrono. For the looks I'd probably go 5170.

[Calatrava r]

1815 chrono would be my choice. Beats the Patek except for ease of wind. The aesthetics are purely a personal choice.

[rfatm3f]

I'm not a huge chrono guy but I like both for different reasons. It would basically come down to brand name for me. I already have a lange, so that itch is scratched. You can never have enough pp though.

[AK797]

Close call from the front but from the back the Lange seals my deal.

[Tony64]

Here's an interesting review comparing these two references...

http://wristreview.com/clash-of-the-...graph-watch/2/

And another one from Hodinkee...

https://www.hodinkee.com/articles/th...raph-revisited

Hope some of the info contained helps with your decision.
Both are great watches!

[dmash]

Originally Posted by ap1

Black dial ALS for me

x2. I'm not fond of the hands on the 5170, the 1815's look much better IMO. Plus, the movement is absolutely stunning. I may be biased though, as I place the newly released black 1815 chrono in my top 3 favorite watches.

If you're talking white/silver dial, I aesthetically prefer more simple pieces (such as Calatrava, Patrimony). IMO a Chrono looks better with a darker dial.

[ap1]

Originally Posted by dmash

x2





I'm not fond of the hands on the 5170, the 1815's look much better IMO.



If you're talking white dial, I like more simple watches (Calatrava, Patrimony, etc). I think a Chrono looks much better with a darker dial.

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[dmash]

ap1, that drives the point home better than any written text could. Amazing.

[RussW]

Originally Posted by ap1

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That's a great looking watch. Doesn't quite have the charm of the 5170 for me though.

[AK797]

Originally Posted by dmash

ap1, that drives the point home better than any written text could. Amazing.

Awesome pic, Adam, and I think your text was spot on. I think chronos are very sporty and black dials suit it better, and I find white dials better on more dressy pieces.

[ezinhk]

I prefer blk dial, movement, case back, non-shiny croc strap, reasonable price of 1815 chrono over 5170.

Mine arrives end of Oct

[jhross98]

i went back and forth on this a zillion times. . .obviously it is down to personal preference and there are no "wrong" answers. for me the PP black dial is more classic, best looking modern PP possibly ever, and breguet numbers take it over the top vs the ALS black dial.

interestingly on pure aesthetics, for the lighter dials i'd probably take the ALS boutique edition over the PP white dial w/ pulsations scale, but again the breguet #s to me are a huge deal that totally separate the two watches

the bottom seems to be falling out of the ALS secondary market which i don't entirely understand, but it concerned me, and since the 5170-010 has already been discontinued at least i have a fighting chance to get my money out should i decide to sell in a few years

[rfatm3f]

Originally Posted by jhross98

i went back and forth on this a zillion times. . .obviously it is down to personal preference and there are no "wrong" answers. for me the PP black dial is more classic, best looking modern PP possibly ever, and breguet numbers take it over the top vs the ALS black dial.

interestingly on pure aesthetics, for the lighter dials i'd probably take the ALS boutique edition over the PP white dial w/ pulsations scale, but again the breguet #s to me are a huge deal that totally separate the two watches

the bottom seems to be falling out of the ALS secondary market which i don't entirely understand, but it concerned me, and since the 5170-010 has already been discontinued at least i have a fighting chance to get my money out should i decide to sell in a few years

I saw a 5170 black Tiffany stamped dial at the Honolulu Tiffany store last week for $82k. I was queasy just thinking of the depreciation on that.

[AK797]

Originally Posted by jhross98

the bottom seems to be falling out of the ALS secondary market which i don't entirely understand, but it concerned me, and since the 5170-010 has already been discontinued at least i have a fighting chance to get my money out should i decide to sell in a few years

I wish it was in the UK, our biggest dealer Watchfinder has a used WG Zeitwerk at just 10% off retail. Chrono24 has a few others at the more usual 30% in US and Europe. I'd also have to do more research into Lange servicing costs and quality.

[jhross98]

Originally Posted by rfatm3f

I saw a 5170 black Tiffany stamped dial at the Honolulu Tiffany store last week for $82k. I was queasy just thinking of the depreciation on that.

interesting you say this. . .i paid 56k or so for mine 5170-010P with full box and papers. i discussed this with john reardon of christies and he actually thought the tiffany dial 5170 would hold up best given a) no discounts and b) the rarity of it

despite this conversation you can see which choice i made

[Acquisitions]

Originally Posted by jhross98

i went back and forth on this a zillion times. . .obviously it is down to personal preference and there are no "wrong" answers. for me the PP black dial is more classic, best looking modern PP possibly ever, and breguet numbers take it over the top vs the ALS black dial.

interestingly on pure aesthetics, for the lighter dials i'd probably take the ALS boutique edition over the PP white dial w/ pulsations scale, but again the breguet #s to me are a huge deal that totally separate the two watches

the bottom seems to be falling out of the ALS secondary market which i don't entirely understand, but it concerned me, and since the 5170-010 has already been discontinued at least i have a fighting chance to get my money out should i decide to sell in a few years

Great shot! That's the complete package. I love that dial and Breguet numbers.

[archer75]

I am a fan of both but bcs of pulsameter on ALS and better pricing, i would pick ALS.




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[Tony64]

As an aside, I've never understood the need for a pulsimeter. Just count the pulses to 30 seconds and double it for heart rate. Math was never my strong suit but multiplying by 2 seems well within my pay grade.

The aesthetics I'll admit are quite nice though. Both the 5170 and the 1815 can be had with or without pulsimeter scale so they're something for everyone.

[rfatm3f]

Originally Posted by jhross98

interesting you say this. . .i paid 56k or so for mine 5170-010P with full box and papers. i discussed this with john reardon of christies and he actually thought the tiffany dial 5170 would hold up best given a) no discounts and b) the rarity of it

despite this conversation you can see which choice i made

I can see both sides of that argument. It would be interesting to see in the future, but I'm thinking if you can walk into a Tiffany and buy one off the floor then how rare or desireable can it be?