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Old 14 January 2020, 01:29 AM   #1
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Old 14 January 2020, 01:52 AM   #2
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I’d say genuine
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Old 14 January 2020, 02:20 AM   #3
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Thats worthy of a closer look, and not in a bad way. Ask about the crown.




Edit: That vintage might or might not have the 2 dots or line on the crown.

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Old 14 January 2020, 02:27 AM   #4
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My only question would be the buckley dial with the wide boy hands and if it is a factory combination. The watch looks ok on its own. Ive never seen a fake president with the Florentine finish
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Old 14 January 2020, 02:35 AM   #5
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My only question would be the buckley dial with the wide boy hands and if it is a factory combination. The watch looks ok on its own. Ive never seen a fake president with the Florentine finish
This good info.
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Old 14 January 2020, 03:04 AM   #6
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Whats up with the checker pattern brushing? Is that normal on these? Looks like someone went at the case and bracelet with sandpaper
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Old 14 January 2020, 03:07 AM   #7
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Whats up with the checker pattern brushing? Is that normal on these? Looks like someone went at the case and bracelet with sandpaper
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Old 14 January 2020, 03:32 AM   #8
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Diff strokes for diff folks. Looks ugly to my eye
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Old 14 January 2020, 03:36 AM   #9
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I would still want many more pics if it’s a watch you are serious about picking up. Is it a 4 digit or 5 digit President? That dial is from a 5 digit since it’s flat and not pie pan.
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Old 14 January 2020, 03:44 AM   #10
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Looks to be Frankenstein to me. like an 1811 Case maybe with the Florentine finish. The wide hands. A flat dial. only wants like 6700.00
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Old 14 January 2020, 03:59 AM   #11
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Looks to be Frankenstein to me. like an 1811 Case maybe with the Florentine finish. The wide hands. A flat dial. only wants like 6700.00
Grab it, once confirmed. You won't lose.

Frankens aren't necessarily bad done right and disclosed.
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Old 14 January 2020, 04:07 AM   #12
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Shady pics and deceiving angles. Cannot see the date font, no straight pic of dial, I have reservations. What is with the texture on the case and bracelet? Send a PM to member crowncollection. He knows Day Dates very well!
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Old 14 January 2020, 04:16 AM   #13
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Shady pics and deceiving angles. Cannot see the date font, no straight pic of dial, I have reservations. What is with the texture on the case and bracelet? Send a PM to member crowncollection. He knows Day Dates very well!
Its called a Florentine finish
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Old 14 January 2020, 04:17 AM   #14
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Looks to be Frankenstein to me. like an 1811 Case maybe with the Florentine finish. The wide hands. A flat dial. only wants like 6700.00
If it turns out to be a legit 1811 marked between the lugs, then at $6700 it is an amazing deal and has plenty of room to bring back to its former self.
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Old 14 January 2020, 05:22 AM   #15
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Not a 1811, but definitely a franken. Dial/hands combo is incorrect (either a wide boy w/ replacement dial, or a buckley dial w/ replacement hands, etc.).
Could be a bastardized 1806 (missing it's original bezel and bracelet), or an 1803 with (aftermarket) florentine/morellis finish.
Seeing as it has a matching president bracelet, I'd guess the latter.

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The bracelet is also lacking a few links.Trying to source a couple depending on your wrist size may be a challenge.
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The bracelet is also lacking a few links.Trying to source a couple depending on your wrist size may be a challenge.
That finish is fairly simple to duplicate by a jeweler that knows what he's doing.
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Old 14 January 2020, 07:12 AM   #18
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Ya the seller is acting a little shady as I am requesting more phots, but yet to receive any.
If I do I will post.
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Old 14 January 2020, 07:21 AM   #19
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Ya the seller is acting a little shady as I am requesting more phots, but yet to receive any.
If I do I will post.
confirm confirm confirm. ...
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Old 14 January 2020, 07:31 AM   #20
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Old 14 January 2020, 08:03 AM   #21
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Cyclops looks out of whack, maybe aftermarket crystal?
John are you seriously considering purchasing? I would be wary of this piece.
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It’s not Florentine it’s is a morellis finish dial and hands are a mis match


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Is it worth it at that price?
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Needs hands and bezel replaced as incorrect. What’s the price. ?


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$6700
Its an amazing cant pass up price if its real, especially with a bracelet.
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Went ahead with the purchase. See what happens. I am very excited as I have always wanted a President and at this price to me it was a no brainer.
Thanks to all that helped me, hopefully all turns out well.
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