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24 June 2020, 03:54 AM | #121 |
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"I really wanted the new Daytona C 116500"...
Oh course you did... Then the story about the fruitless search goes on and on.... Why would the AD sell one to you, without any purchase history? It's a DEAD END sale. They need that watch to sell to customers who are continually buying, thus keeping the buying cycle in their store going...selling it to the OP is a waste of resources. As for resources, I highly doubt that if Rolex cranked out and wildly distributed SS Daytona's so that they were 100% available @ 100% of AD's, that the people complaining about NOT being able to get one, would even consider buying it... There are countless chronographs (and divers / GMT) from other luxury brands that are immediately available without any issue what so ever....but guess what? Nobody really wants them. They just sit in the display cases while the majority of consumers cram into the AD's to get their chance at the SS Daytona, PEPSI and SUB. |
24 June 2020, 03:57 AM | #122 |
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24 June 2020, 04:00 AM | #123 |
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... as a result, whatever Rolex you end up buying will be worth far more years from now. Why? Because they are clearly selling watches below market value.
To correct this, Rolex would have to raise Daytona SS to $22k, Sub LN to $11k, Sub LV to $15k, GMT BLRO SS to $17k and BLNR to $14k. All other SS professional watches would need 20% hike, and SS Skydweller depending on dial color would need to be $19-23k. If Rolex priced at “market values”, then this would all go away, but a lot of people wouldn’t be able to buy one. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
24 June 2020, 04:00 AM | #124 |
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What is really funny here. Many only want a Rolex watch because they are hard to get and may generate a quick profit.
When these watches were widely available at ADs, most were just gathering dust in display cases selling much more slowly. |
24 June 2020, 04:03 AM | #125 | |
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That’s fair — and those are some of the things that really attracted me to the brand back in 2015/2016. But they started going down a misguided path and people thought the new ceo would turn that around. Instead, he’s raised prices, and focused on materials. A Carbotech (essentially a glorified forum of super plastic) sub with the same movement as they previously put in $6k watches — for $17k !?? How does that make any sense ?? I feel like Panerai is dangerously close to going down the hublot route, although when you think about it, hublot’s Big Bang line has pieces far more interesting and tech driven (movement wise) than anything Panerai has. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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24 June 2020, 04:11 AM | #126 | |
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Sorry,off the Rolex rant topic now .. Its like a cannot find Daytona thread ending in red Scuderia mags . |
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24 June 2020, 04:25 AM | #127 |
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You’re a young guy and obviously have the Rolex watch bug like a lot of us. It’s time you stopped buying Gray and bought from an AD to establish a relationship. It will pay dividends in the long term. Some things cannot be rushed and this is one of them. If you read TRF closely you will find most who have the hot watches you want have had established relationships with their AD purchasing over many years. I count myself in that group. There is the occasional bundle buyer with little to no history but that’s not the norm frankly. As an aside, have you tried on the 114060? I have both the Explorer you turned down and the 114060 and I can tell you the Sub is way larger and heavier than the Explorer 39. I have a hard time understanding why you think the Sub will fit you better than the EXP without trying it on. |
24 June 2020, 04:26 AM | #128 | |
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24 June 2020, 04:31 AM | #129 | |
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Oh I know. 2015/2016 was well past the glory years for Panerai. I’m simply making the point that even compared to 2016, Panerai continues to move in the wrong direction, contrary to what many thought would happen when their new ceo came on board. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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24 June 2020, 04:31 AM | #130 | |
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And I will add to your post that (from a business perspective) it greatly helps the Rolex brand strength and image to have PM and TT within the product line and selling well. |
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24 June 2020, 04:34 AM | #131 | |
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24 June 2020, 04:36 AM | #132 | |
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I didn’t realize you tried the Sub on. Post pics when you get the Submariner. It’s s fantastic piece. |
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24 June 2020, 04:52 AM | #134 |
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I love my 214270, then again, I bought it so I better! Out of curiosity, have you tried the rhodium Yacht Master 40 just to see what that looks like on your wrist? I'm gonna take a stab and guess you don't like pcl or the platinum bezel, lol (because all the detractors say that), but try it.
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24 June 2020, 04:52 AM | #135 |
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It does sound silly but the bezel and busier dial on the Daytona gives off a much smaller feel to the watch, probably all visual though. The time only and small bezel of the expl 1 wore large on me, I am probably overly picky but I think I have the right considering the price of the watch.
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24 June 2020, 05:36 AM | #137 | |
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The above type theme I believe would make for more interesting reading than the common story of "buyers disgruntled at lack of ready availability for 2 or 3 models". |
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24 June 2020, 07:20 AM | #139 | |
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But now things are........... different. And if you move to a new area, it feels more challenging building a relationship. Buuuut, over time building a relationship is a good idea. Sure I've lucked into some timepieces during my world travels too. Maybe Rolex should release a video explaining today's market. So when someone walks in asking for a Daytona or other hot model, an informative 2 minute video is played to relieve the AD from answering the 1000th 'customer' asking for one. jmho
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24 June 2020, 07:36 AM | #140 |
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The article pretty much sums it up.
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Hi, everyone at Rolex appreciates your interest in our fine timepieces. We are grateful this provides us the ability to sponsor and support ocean exploration, mountaineers, and many fine sporting events worldwide. Due to the popularity of our products, and we must remember each one is carefully handcrafted in the finest of Swiss traditions and takes a year to make, there are periods when some models are highly desired by many enthusiasts and explorers are not available. We have an outstanding collection of timepieces, as you can see within the display cases, that are available for you today thanks to the many talented craftspeople within our state-of-the-art production facility. The special bond created while wearing a Rolex reaffirms your life's accomplishments. Rolex, a Crown for every achievement.
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I remember getting 9% discount on my MilgaussGV back in 2010... I could chose between anything you would call SS sportsmodels today (Daytona, Subs, SeaD, GMT etc etc), but I went for the Milgauss... Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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I still remember talking to over 10 different east Coast ADs a couple years ago.
The Green Sub LV was collecting dust in ADs as recently as 3.5yrs ago, some even had 3 or 4 and couldn’t give them away. Then a celebrity in China wore one in a picture that circulated on social media, and the mighty buying power of the Chinese upper middle class came down on the SubLV. The explosion in Chinese tourism meant that in (almost) every corner of the earth LVs were bought up for personal consumption or for resale to the many greys in Hong Kong and China. Ever since then the shortage hasn’t let up. As a result, the watch has gained such popularity globally, because it fetches a premium, and even in markets were they were collecting dust, now local buyers are lining up and get upset they can’t get the watch ‘they’ve always wanted’ and blame Rolex for manipulating the market etc. The same happened with Louis Vuitton, Chanel and Hermes bags. In Paris, tourists are now allowed to only buy 1 bag per person because some people would just walk in and buy all stock. The handcrafted brands cannot keep up with the enormous surge in demand from an ever growing upper middle class and their global reach. It’s market dynamics. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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24 June 2020, 10:59 AM | #146 |
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Maybe purchase a piece of jewelry for your significant other? If you don't have one of those, then maybe buy a charm for your cat. You obviously like to talk, and write, about watches. Go spend some money at one AD and they will take you much more seriously. Stick with that one and spend time getting to know them. Or...make another 200 posts about Covid tanking the luxury watch market and keep your fingers crossed.
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24 June 2020, 11:04 AM | #147 |
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A most humble thanks. Imho the video idea brings a unified message while also showcasing the brand's accomplishments and commitment to excellence. It also alleviates the AD from having to explain time and time again, which let's be honest we're sure it gets a bit... tedious.
I remember working retail during Teddy Ruxpin and Cabbage Patch Kids craze. Let's be thankful there aren't in-store fistfights for a Submariner (or outright carniage for a Daytona).
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24 June 2020, 12:29 PM | #148 |
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Good to know.
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24 June 2020, 01:46 PM | #150 | |
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