5726 pricing!

[superdog]

Originally Posted by Fat_ninja

Different world... just adapt :)

Me?

I’ve adapted just fine thanks.

[Aqua75]

Originally Posted by V25V

Dude, quit referencing f'n Sotheby's auctions. That price is higher than most asking prices on Chrono24, which are already high. When I see a known great asking over those prices (since they are going to get a bit lower than ask), I'll believe it.

At the end of the day, I could care less. I just find it hilarious that a model nobody wanted not all that long ago is even demanding a premium at all now. And the strap version isn't even discontinued......


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Remember that the strap version is only available in grey, white dial is completely discontinued. Also you cannot swap strap for bracelets.

[V25V]

Originally Posted by Aqua75

Remember that the strap version is only available in grey, white dial is completely discontinued. Also you cannot swap strap for bracelets.

Knew about the strap/bracelet, did not know that the white was completely discontinued. That makes a little more sense that the white dial price would creep up.


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[patriot885]

Originally Posted by V25V

Dude, quit referencing f'n Sotheby's auctions. That price is higher than most asking prices on Chrono24, which are already high. When I see a known great asking over those prices (since they are going to get a bit lower than ask), I'll believe it.

At the end of the day, I could care less. I just find it hilarious that a model nobody wanted not all that long ago is even demanding a premium at all now. And the strap version isn't even discontinued......


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I won't quit none, simply because i don't take orders and mere because public auction is one of the best indicator out there.
So you will believe it indicated by ASKING prices and not by confirmed PAID price? I don't think you understood how it works- the value is what one paid and not what one ask.

Yes, you got it right, the strap version that isn't even discontinued and some keyboard warriors were considering trading it in + cash (!) for a used 5712 (not to talk about all other warriors "pass" on it even with discount and came here to show it of "because it is not a sport watch with AC"), is now a 60K watch and probably at least 90K for the 1A. If you are looking for sense, look at karma

[V25V]

Originally Posted by patriot885

I won't quit none, simply because i don't take orders and mere because public auction is one of the best indicator out there.

So you will believe it indicated by ASKING prices and not by confirmed PAID price? I don't think you understood how it works- the value is what one paid and not what one ask.



Yes, you got it right, the strap version that isn't even discontinued and some keyboard warriors were considering trading it in + cash (!) for a used 5712 (not to talk about all other warriors "pass" on it even with discount and came here to show it of "because it is not a sport watch with AC"), is now a 60K watch and probably at least 90K for the 1A. If you are looking for sense, look at karma

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[danestaff]

Originally Posted by patriot885

I won't quit none, simply because i don't take orders and mere because public auction is one of the best indicator out there.

So you will believe it indicated by ASKING prices and not by confirmed PAID price? I don't think you understood how it works- the value is what one paid and not what one ask.



Yes, you got it right, the strap version that isn't even discontinued and some keyboard warriors were considering trading it in + cash (!) for a used 5712 (not to talk about all other warriors "pass" on it even with discount and came here to show it of "because it is not a sport watch with AC"), is now a 60K watch and probably at least 90K for the 1A. If you are looking for sense, look at karma

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[patriot885]

And it's keep growing. another one on strap sold for 65K, this time under "Important watches" for the first time. This one is sealed http://www.sothebys.com/en/auctions/...html?locale=en

For comparison, a factory sealed 5712/1A sold for 62K in the highest pick of it's popularity (exactly one year ago) http://www.sothebys.com/en/auctions/...html?locale=en

Again, mind the fact that 5726 sold is on strap and 5712 is "Grail" on bracelet! There are no 5726/1A for sale in sight.. beside the 80-100K ones on chrono24

[Russell996]

Originally Posted by patriot885

And it's keep growing. another one on strap sold for 65K, this time under "Important watches" for the first time. This one is sealed http://www.sothebys.com/en/auctions/...html?locale=en

Is that price including 20-25% buyers premium?

[patriot885]

Originally Posted by Russell996

Is that price including 20-25% buyers premium?

Yes. All prices presented with the premium because this is the price actually paid by the buyer, indicating it's market value.

[Mini2]

Originally Posted by patriot885

And it's keep growing. another one on strap sold for 65K, this time under "Important watches" for the first time. This one is sealed http://www.sothebys.com/en/auctions/...html?locale=en

For comparison, a factory sealed 5712/1A sold for 62K in the highest pick of it's popularity (exactly one year ago) http://www.sothebys.com/en/auctions/...html?locale=en

Again, mind the fact that 5726 sold is on strap and 5712 is "Grail" on bracelet! There are no 5726/1A for sale in sight.. beside the 80-100K ones on chrono24

One available in the uk 72k GBP
Absolutely crazy

[patriot885]

Originally Posted by Mini2

One available in the uk 72k GBP
Absolutely crazy

It's called supply and demand

[sdh1980]

Originally Posted by patriot885

It's called supply and demand

And there's no supply anymore (at least in white and grey dials)

[patriot885]

Originally Posted by sdh1980

And there's no supply anymore (at least in white and grey dials)

Precisely

[Russell996]

Originally Posted by Mini2

One available in the uk 72k GBP
Absolutely crazy

On a strap?

There is one on WF (who are not cheap) at £37500.

https://www.watchfinder.co.uk/Patek%...35/item/128067

[patriot885]

He meant on bracelet. None of the big dealers has them anymore. only 17 on chrono24, starting at about 62K GBP.
Crazy but as we seen before this thing can go higher as it's a discontinued steel nautilus with complications and a dial we won't see again. Look at the price of 3711 those days.

[didyunt]

$60,000 is a good price for it.

[bundopeace]

Any one knows if you can swap a leather strap version to a steel bracelet?

does PP sell the bracelet only aftermarket?

[vandyologist]

Originally Posted by bundopeace

Any one knows if you can swap a leather strap version to a steel bracelet?

does PP sell the bracelet only aftermarket?

They are not interchangeable.

[TimeOnHand]

Brand new white dial selling at a grey dealer in HK for $86,600 USD.
NEW BLUE DIAL for $200K USD.
PRICES are nuts!!!!

[patriot885]

Originally Posted by TimeOnHand

Brand new white dial selling at a grey dealer in HK for $86,600 USD.
NEW BLUE DIAL for $200K USD.
PRICES are nuts!!!!

Not bad for an unwanted, easy to get, too thick, not sporty, not real nautilus

[Rwatcher]

Originally Posted by TimeOnHand

Brand new white dial selling at a grey dealer in HK for $86,600 USD.
NEW BLUE DIAL for $200K USD.
PRICES are nuts!!!!

Speechless. My good friend has a 5726 grey dial that we are just watching appreciate weekly. Wish I had bought it off him 4 years ago now when he offered me at his cost.

[sdh1980]

[V25V]

Originally Posted by sdh1980

They can ask whatever they want. I find it very hard to believe that they are selling for this. Short of Sotheby's auctions in Dubai.....

[sdh1980]

Originally Posted by V25V

They can ask whatever they want. I find it very hard to believe that they are selling for this. Short of Sotheby's auctions in Dubai.....

Agreed.... Lunacy!

There is a jeweller in Hatton Garden, London that had two white dials advertised at £60k. Both are now sold a week later (obviously don't know what the actual sale price was)

[bruinmd]

Originally Posted by V25V

They can ask whatever they want. I find it very hard to believe that they are selling for this. Short of Sotheby's auctions in Dubai.....

This is a really good point.
A good grey guy knows the true market. The listings mean nothing-- many of them are 'ghost' listings and not indicative of what the watch is really going for.

If I hear that the the 5726 grey dial is actually selling for $60-90K (strap/bracelet), then that changes things. But I haven't heard that so far

[patriot885]

Originally Posted by Rwatcher

Speechless. My good friend has a 5726 grey dial that we are just watching appreciate weekly. Wish I had bought it off him 4 years ago now when he offered me at his cost.

That's pretty much what happen to those warriors who mislead to pass on it and now eating the hat, opening threads about their watch being perfect (yea, an actual thread title "it's perfect" with wrist pic inside ). I guess Shared Sorrow is Halved, not everyday you discover you lost tens of thousand of dollars because you were told "5712 is cool 5726 is dull".
Looks like you handle it better

Originally Posted by bruinmd

This is a really good point.
A good grey guy knows the true market. The listings mean nothing-- many of them are 'ghost' listings and not indicative of what the watch is really going for.

If I hear that the the 5726 grey dial is actually selling for $60-90K (strap/bracelet), then that changes things. But I haven't heard that so far

That's why we have public auctions. A value is what one pay and not what one ask. The strap is ACTUALLY selling for 56K (used) 65K (new).
here-
http://www.sothebys.com/en/auctions/...html?locale=en
http://www.sothebys.com/en/auctions/...html?locale=en

Bracelet? there is none for sale in public auction. If offered in auction there is no reason it wouldn't hit 100K in today's market, based on actual sales above.

[ade]

Originally Posted by Russell996

On a strap?

There is one on WF (who are not cheap) at £37500.

https://www.watchfinder.co.uk/Patek%...35/item/128067

and sold already

WF have zero Nautilus in stock

[Sam Philip]

5726A sold at Christie's Hong Kong in 27 May for HKD 475 000 including buyers premium.

https://www.christies.com/lotfinder/...6-d7a4f0222ab9

[bob101]

Some of those prices quoted in April seem quite reasonable now. Seen asking of 120k USD on bracelet version. Chrono24 and eBay. Crazy. Haven't seen any 5726 with bracelet in auctions, last was strap version getting 500 HKD or so.

[patriot885]

Originally Posted by bob101

Some of those prices quoted in April seem quite reasonable now. Seen asking of 120k USD on bracelet version. Chrono24 and eBay. Crazy. Haven't seen any 5726 with bracelet in auctions, last was strap version getting 500 HKD or so.

Yup, NONE bracelet version to come by at auction. TS who has one going 120K and up. TS offering owners 100K on the spot, no negotiation needed.