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26 September 2020, 04:32 AM | #241 | |
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Are the high VAT more of a protectionist strategy to limit the goods residents would buy cheaper out of country? Protect the local businesses?
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Health insurance is paid 50/50 by employer and employee and it‘s mandatory. In some cases, health insurance ( for unemployeds etc) is provided with tax money. Everybody needs to have a health insurance here. |
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And tools is right. VAT used to be 19% last year, now it‘s 16% |
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I stand corrected.
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The thing to note is she wasn’t coming from any country. She was coming home to her place of permanent residence where the VAT is a fairly standard 19% It’s 20% VAT in the UK, and i think it’s even law in the EU to have it at >15% You can’t compare the tax situation to that of America where the state provides very little in comparison. When we visited the states with our boy, to see family, he was poorly and as a precaution took him to an emergency room to be checked out. Total bill was $1400 for approximately 20 minutes of time. I could easily call that robbery and theft, but instead I just pay the bill, which I knew would be high as it’s how the country works. This would have cost $0 anywhere in the EU for me to have done the same thing.
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In fairness I used to consider my health insurance payments as a form of tax when I was in Germany, especially when I was on public health insurance. It’s mandatory and the employer contributes, so not that dissimilar to NI contributions in the UK. I was paying about 50% in total stoppages when working there for tax, health, solidarity tax etc. Church tax would have been another 10% if I subscribed to that as well. It never bothered me one bit as I saw all the positive things the money was spent on for the society & people over there. Plus some of the best roads around.
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It depends Brett, I worked from 15 to 58, so I always paid National Insurance. Someone who never worked a day in their life, it would be free, now that I am retired, it is free to me, I don't pay National Insurance.
One may say that it isn't fair that someone should get it free all their life whereas others pay all their life, tbh mate, that argument never comes up here. I have never heard anyone say about someone else that they shouldn't have medical cover because they don't work.
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No, exactly - there is a cost to the state in all that. That’s what taxes pay for and actually why for health I prefer the German system of mandatory health insurance (so kind of like a tax) but you have the freedom to choose provider, level of cover and if you don’t use it, it can be much much cheaper. So keeping oneself healthy saves money ! Who can argue with that. P.s. This is one of the best threads for a while and I do like all the different opinions.
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You worked your whole life and earned your insurance. You paid for it. It should be free for the rest of your life.
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And yeah, you see the tax money spent in Germany with the cleanliness, great public transport even in the smaller cities, roads as you mentioned. I *would* be angry paying high taxes in America as you don’t see it applied like you do in certain EU countries. Lol what? I’n from Florida (lived in TB area for 3 years in my twenties) and I can count off probably 50 people I knew without health insurance. Lots of younger people don’t get it who work min wage jobs, self employed or are in school. If you’re not dirt poor or have a kid you don’t immediately get all insurance/food benefits. It’s a easy line to cross, it’s actually why a lot of people say ‘I’m not even going to work’ because they technically are richer than if they worked a min wage job from the benefits they can receive. |
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26 September 2020, 11:42 AM | #255 | |
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Stating ‘lack of health insurance is a myth’ is wildly inaccurate and far removed from reality. And in regards to foreign health insurance, I base my opinions from actually living in countries with a firsthand experience, not what my buddy told me. There are no infractions to be had, nobody is insulting one another, I’m simply countering your opinionated claims with facts. There’s nothing for moderation and I’m sure the mods agree |
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