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2 April 2018, 10:51 PM | #61 |
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Why would they redesign it, is it not popular? Are they having trouble selling new Subs?
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2 April 2018, 10:53 PM | #62 |
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Thank-you for your positive comments!
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2 April 2018, 11:33 PM | #64 |
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It all comes down to personal tastes... I loved the 5 digit sub, it was a classic! But, I flipped it and got a 6 digit. I love it even more!
I prefer the maxi case. It is a solid look, for a solid watch! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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People are falling over themselves trying to get the current versions. Why would the redesign at all. By restricting supply they have bought themselves time. If it ain’t broke don’t fixed it......and they won’t for many years to come!!
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3 April 2018, 12:07 AM | #69 |
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I must admit, I disagree with the opinion that the current incarnation of Submariner should be re-designed.
It's all subjective but after trying on 5 and 6 digit Submariners over the past few years, I adore the 6 digit and settled on that. The 5 digit is great but I prefer the higher quality feel and look of the 6 digit. For me, every generation of Submariner (Like most of the range) has improved every area of the watch that had gone before it. Evolution not revolution is used as a slight, but when the template is the Submariner, I think you have a winning combination. In the end, most Rolex's are wonderful and everyone's version of perfect is different than the others. For me, older generation Sub's are classics but not for me. |
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3 April 2018, 12:23 AM | #71 |
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Well, for me, my 6.5" wrist, and my taste, even a slight tapering of the lugs would be a welcome change. The current iteration is beautiful – and maybe it's my wrist that should change – but it always looks a bit better on others than on me.
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Love the current Sub design. Looks like a 42mm diver that wears like a 40mm. That’s a heck of a design trick that is comfortable to wear all day, every day. No living on the past for me. You want a smaller Sub, there are decades of older models available. Rolex is looking to the future and giving us future classics that fit with today’s style.
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I can't imagine the current Sub design is going anywhere - it's perfect and what the mass market desires. Yes perhaps the movement will see an upgrade but I wouldn't expect much else.
Consider this: It's still 40MM when the majority of dive watches are bigger than ever! The Maxi case in my opinion was designed to give more of a wrist presence without increasing the case size MM wise. This was their compromise against increasing market demand for larger case size. The new Air King is 40mm... The other benefit is longevity. This watch can be polished during service and still retain a full body for the years to come. The older watches no so much.
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They may not change the case much, but I definitely think they will make the bracelet wider and taper it. They have done this on the SD43 and they also improved the bracelet on the Deep Sea. It seems inevitable they're going to fix the bracelet on the Sub too, an entire diver bracelet revamp if you will. This would actually increase the real estate and move the design to an even more modern size. THIS makes sense........along with updating the movement.
Anybody wanting 5 digit measurement should forget about it, that's a pipe dream. Rolex just increased the Sea Dweller 3mm, why in the world would they decide to decrease the Sub? Said it before on here, I'm giving it until Basel 2020 to see if they implement these things. Aside from wanting the above changes, this also gives a couple years for the market to cool off. Right now is practically the worst possible time to buy a luxury watch in recent history. You could get a BNIB SubC date for $7500 at the beginning of 2017, forget prices right now. |
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Just get a 16610 sub & you’re good to go, PS get one with lug holes
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With the new Pepsi out there now, it's clear that GMT's and Subs are going to stay super-cased for at least another generation (probably a decade?).
P.S. As an owner of the SubC, I find the watch to be VERY compact compared to practically all other major luxury watches in the same price point. It fits well on my flat 6.5 wrist. Older Subs are barely any smaller than the current ones. The main difference is the lug width. It's still 40mm. |
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Nope. I’ll stand pat with my 5 serial. No need for a new Sub.
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So they want Rolex to go back ten years and make a five digit skinny looking Submariner but with all brushed steel, because that makes anything tool like. I bet if they brushed all the surfaces of a Skydweller, someone would jump out the closet and proclaim that it's the perfect "tool" watch. Does that even really exist for a middle class hard working member of society, a $9-15k "tool" watch.... For John Mayer sure, he could buy a Sub to throw around and a Patek to purposely dress down in and pick up dog poop...but that isn't the norm. The Sub and its sales say it is perfect. And no one except five digit dreamers who probably don't or ever owned a SubC want a Submariner lite.... The irony is that these people scream for thinner lugs, more refinement visually, but then scream about it needing to be larger and nothing shiny, all brushed. Can't you guys just go buy one of the millions of five digit watches that are floating around. Can't they all just go buy one of the five digit Pepsis that are circulating everywhere still...All they're gonna do is bitch about pcls and square lugs with a too much shiny bezel....irony. Quote:
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I’ll pile on... the most the case shape/design will change is to that of the new SS Pepsi, at least for the next 5 years. (IMHO)
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I for one am hoping for a sub redesign...
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I love 5 digit Rolex models but as others have stated the prices have gone crazy on certain models. They also don't have the build quality of the modern pieces and it's really hard to justify paying so much for a 5 digit when you take the original cost into account.
The biggest issue though are the bracelets. The hallow ones especially are simply garbage and you are paying serious money for something so subpar. The big selling point for me on modern Rolex models are the bracelets. They are simply the best in the business in my opinion. |
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I for one am hoping for a sub redesign...
I may be in the minority here, but I actually prefer the five digit bracelets because they are lighter, easier to adjust and, in my opinion, more comfortable.
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I can understand them being lighter and possibly more comfortable, but I wouldn't have thought the pin-and-holes clasp was easier to adjust than the Glidelock. I haven't owned a five-digit Rolex, but I had a number of other watches with pin-and-hole adjustment, and I find the Glidelock is way easier to adjust. Omega's adjustable diver clasp is easier still, but that's a different matter.
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I dig ‘em as well. They are simple - and work! While I don’t want a modern Sub - I’d love a 1680. A pity they’ve gotten pretty pricey. My fault for waiting. |
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I went watch browsing with the GF the other day and she tried on an Explorer I 36mm after I tried it on. Her first reaction was how cheap the bracelet felt and she was confused. That and how small the watch was but that's another story. It's all opinion at the end of the day but I just cannot wrap my head around those older bracelets. Thankfully, Rolex remedied that and then some. |
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I agree with you on the glidelock, but the thing is, only the submariner has the glidelock clasp. The rest of the Rolex line up has the easy link clasp. Yes, you get the half link but that only changes the fit slightly. The fine adjustments on the easy link clasp are really annoying to use since the holes are on the inside of the clasp. On the other hand, every five digit bracelet has holes on the outside of the clasp. It takes just a few seconds to adjust the clasp with a ballpoint pen. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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Now of course they both sell at a premium which doesn't benefit Rolex at all, I don't see them going back just for nostalgia sake. |
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