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vermyapre · 18 January 2017, 12:35 PM

Experts out there, I'm a noob trying to get a vintage SD or Sub.
Saw this and wondered if this rail dial is a good buy.

Comments pls.

V.lats97nsx · 18 January 2017, 11:19 PM

As far as I can tell the date wheel is not original. Should be brushed silver.

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Jason71 · 18 January 2017, 11:43 PM

I believe the date wheel to be original

vermyapre · 19 January 2017, 12:52 AM

Yeah, I was pondering about the date wheel as well.
Should the correct one be silver or white?

And does the bezel insert look original?
Or a service insert?

V.lats97nsx · 19 January 2017, 12:59 AM

One of jaceks.

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swish77 · 19 January 2017, 01:14 AM

Is it a good buy? Well, that depends on the price. The insert and date wheel do indeed look to be replacements, although sometimes it's hard to tell in photos whether the date wheel is white or silver. (Definitely looks white, though).

I'd be more concerned about the case, which has been polished a lot, especially the crown guards. That would bug me. The dial and hands look nice, with matching patina. Also, for me personally, I would never pay a premium for a so-called rail dial over a non-rail. I find that to be one of the most over-hyped details out there. If you're looking for a 1665 Great White, I'd just hunt for the best condition example you can find for your budget, regardless of which variation.

Also, any service history? If the watch needs to be serviced, add about $600 for what it would take a good independent to do it, maybe more.

vermyapre · 19 January 2017, 10:50 AM

Thanks for the advice.
Price of this piece is USD$16.5K.
Seems high.

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Originally Posted by swish77

Is it a good buy? Well, that depends on the price. The insert and date wheel do indeed look to be replacements, although sometimes it's hard to tell in photos whether the date wheel is white or silver. (Definitely looks white, though).

I'd be more concerned about the case, which has been polished a lot, especially the crown guards. That would bug me. The dial and hands look nice, with matching patina. Also, for me personally, I would never pay a premium for a so-called rail dial over a non-rail. I find that to be one of the most over-hyped details out there. If you're looking for a 1665 Great White, I'd just hunt for the best condition example you can find for your budget, regardless of which variation.

Also, any service history? If the watch needs to be serviced, add about $600 for what it would take a good independent to do it, maybe more.

rootbeer7 · 19 January 2017, 05:06 PM

The price does seem high. I would expect only a little more for my full set with fat case, lugs etc. Dial is good though.

vermyapre · 20 January 2017, 02:54 PM

How much did you get your full set for?

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Originally Posted by rootbeer7

The price does seem high. I would expect only a little more for my full set with fat case, lugs etc. Dial is good though.

JerimiahLee · 23 January 2017, 05:33 AM

Dial and case look great. The rail dial is a rare variant and that's why it commands a premium.

rootbeer7 · 23 January 2017, 06:25 AM

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Originally Posted by vermyapre

How much did you get your full set for?

It was 2 years ago and prices have moved.

V.lats97nsx · 23 January 2017, 11:47 AM

Mine says hello I love it. Just sourced a correct insert should be along shortly. Nice shot next to a 16800.

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Boaters · 23 January 2017, 12:13 PM

Those domed crystals are just plain cool looking.

Jason71 · 24 January 2017, 04:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Boaters

Those domed crystals are just plain cool looking.

Yup

Boaters · 24 January 2017, 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Jason71

Yup

Oh yea now thats what I am talking about ...Beautiful example Jason!!!

vermyapre · 24 January 2017, 05:52 PM

And that's one of the main reasons we are into vintage SD.

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Originally Posted by Jason71

Yup

rootbeer7 · 24 January 2017, 11:19 PM

Oh ok then......

sensui · 25 January 2017, 03:07 AM

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Originally Posted by rootbeer7

Oh ok then......

I need one like that, killer insert!

18 January 2017, 11:43 PM	#3
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18 January 2017, 11:19 PM	#2
V.lats97nsx 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Syracuse Posts: 3,860	As far as I can tell the date wheel is not original. Should be brushed silver. Sent from my SM-N930V using Tapatalk

19 January 2017, 12:52 AM	#4
vermyapre "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2017 Location: Singapore Watch: 1665 Great White Posts: 52	Yeah, I was pondering about the date wheel as well. Should the correct one be silver or white? And does the bezel insert look original? Or a service insert?

19 January 2017, 12:59 AM	#5
V.lats97nsx 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Syracuse Posts: 3,860	One of jaceks. Sent from my SM-N930V using Tapatalk

19 January 2017, 01:14 AM	#6
swish77 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Real Name: Aaron Location: CT/NYC Watch: ing the time! Posts: 6,788	Is it a good buy? Well, that depends on the price. The insert and date wheel do indeed look to be replacements, although sometimes it's hard to tell in photos whether the date wheel is white or silver. (Definitely looks white, though). I'd be more concerned about the case, which has been polished a lot, especially the crown guards. That would bug me. The dial and hands look nice, with matching patina. Also, for me personally, I would never pay a premium for a so-called rail dial over a non-rail. I find that to be one of the most over-hyped details out there. If you're looking for a 1665 Great White, I'd just hunt for the best condition example you can find for your budget, regardless of which variation. Also, any service history? If the watch needs to be serviced, add about $600 for what it would take a good independent to do it, maybe more.

19 January 2017, 05:06 PM	#8
rootbeer7 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: london Posts: 5,950	The price does seem high. I would expect only a little more for my full set with fat case, lugs etc. Dial is good though.

23 January 2017, 05:33 AM	#10
JerimiahLee "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Real Name: Jerimiah Location: NYC Watch: 5513 Meters 1st Posts: 669	Dial and case look great. The rail dial is a rare variant and that's why it commands a premium.

23 January 2017, 11:47 AM	#12
V.lats97nsx 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Syracuse Posts: 3,860	Mine says hello I love it. Just sourced a correct insert should be along shortly. Nice shot next to a 16800. Sent from my SM-G935V using Tapatalk

23 January 2017, 12:13 PM	#13
Boaters 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: May 2015 Real Name: Mike Location: Pacific Northwest Watch: 116610LV 16710 SD Posts: 10,649	Those domed crystals are just plain cool looking.

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