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SD Mike · 12 July 2008, 04:29 AM

Just found this photo on the internet incl story behind it. The photo shows Klaus Kleinfeld (CEO Siemens) in 2004. The left photo was used in summer 2004 but again for the shareholder's meeting in early 2005. He had asked to remove the watch from his wrist...funny isn't it???

f16570 · 12 July 2008, 04:30 AM

Why? Who really cares?

BigHat · 12 July 2008, 04:41 AM

Well maybe because he looks like a Rolex ad in the first picture. Having one on and posing with one is a bit different.
I suspect he had it changed because he looked like an idiot, not because anyone thought a guy making millions running a company worth billions sends the wrong message wearing a stainless steel watch.
Of course, maybe the "fashion police" got to him and they expect something less "Lloyd Bridges" for a business suit.

k4vks · 12 July 2008, 04:59 AM

i agree i think the positioning of his hands makes you focus too much on the watch

Leighton · 12 July 2008, 05:09 AM

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Originally Posted by k4vks

i agree i think the positioning of his hands makes you focus too much on the watch

I agree, the pose does make it appear he is showing off his watch. The other photo is just as bad because now it appears he has a limp wrist! Not the best body language for a powerful CEO.

Of course, maybe he didn't want to look too well-to-do since he just announced he was cutting 16,750 jobs worldwide.

Tareg · 12 July 2008, 05:21 AM

Yup, he looks like he's flashing his watch in the first picture, actually pulling his sleeve to show it! Second pic looks better imo.

Goodwatch · 12 July 2008, 05:29 AM

Actually, it looks like PS job to me.

2careless · 12 July 2008, 06:13 AM

See this: http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...icle508922.ece
I think der Spiegel did a piece on this first.
Kleinfeld is not boss of Siemens anymore. He's now boss of Alcoa.
It was the new CEO Peter Loescher who announced the 17k job cuts.

sini1717 · 12 July 2008, 06:25 AM

he may not want some people to know what he has some people are jealous others are muggers others like us lot love em so he may just be being discreet

lady_sandy · 12 July 2008, 06:29 AM

Maybe it has to do with something about the brand. See maybe it is best he dosent associate to any brand, could be a PR move, so he dosent show any afiliation to any brand, especialy if that picture is shown in any news media

But in general i say, no one should be embaraced LOL its nothing to be embaraced about

Timber Loftis · 12 July 2008, 06:32 AM

Whoever was smart enough to tell him he looked like a watch advertisement should have also told him the whole nonchalant lean thing isn't the best way to strike a pose.

travellingbrit · 12 July 2008, 06:40 AM

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Originally Posted by SD Mike

Just found this photo on the internet incl story behind it. The photo shows Klaus Kleinfeld (CEO Siemens) in 2004. The left photo was used in summer 2004 but again for the shareholder's meeting in early 2005. He had asked to remove the watch from his wrist...funny isn't it???

I actually met Kleinfeld in 2004 and was in Munich when this picture was in the business press. They airbrushed the Rollie out purely because it was deemed unbefitting of a CEO of Siemens to be seen flaunting a luxury watch in a promotional Siemens photograph. As should have been anticipated it all backfired as it smealt a little of deception.They should have strapped something more subtle to his wrist as it looks really odd without a watch.

Nice chap

Goodwatch · 12 July 2008, 06:54 AM

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Originally Posted by travellingbrit

I actually met Kleinfeld in 2004 and was in Munich when this picture was in the business press. They airbrushed the Rollie out purely because it was deemed unbefitting of a CEO of Siemens to be seen flaunting a luxury watch in a promotional Siemens photograph. As should have been anticipated it all backfired as it smealt a little of deception.They should have strapped something more subtle to his wrist as it looks really odd without a watch.

Nice chap

Good remark! And how ironic

If he wore a 60,000 but unobtrusive Patek, no one would be the wiser

2careless · 12 July 2008, 07:00 AM

I think the reason why this photo thing was blown out of proportion was that Kleinfeld promised to close down non-performing divisions of Siemens (i.e. job losses) and with a CEO wearing what considered as blingy watch, that image doesn't convey well. So, there is a spin job that backfired

In the end he didn't do a good job either - sending the mobiles division to Benq and it all blew up in his face.

samsamabjack · 12 July 2008, 07:01 AM

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Originally Posted by travellingbrit

I actually met Kleinfeld in 2004 and was in Munich when this picture was in the business press. They airbrushed the Rollie out purely because it was deemed unbefitting of a CEO of Siemens to be seen flaunting a luxury watch in a promotional Siemens photograph. As should have been anticipated it all backfired as it smealt a little of deception.They should have strapped something more subtle to his wrist as it looks really odd without a watch.

Nice chap

You see ??? That's why I don't wear my Rolex(The LV fake one or the real stupid useless DJ I used to have) in front of my employees......

Thomas · 12 July 2008, 09:10 AM

The watch hanging out like that is just tacky looking anyway

Leighton · 12 July 2008, 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Leighton

Of course, maybe he didn't want to look too well-to-do since he just announced he was cutting 16,750 jobs worldwide.

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Originally Posted by 2careless

See this: http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...icle508922.ece
I think der Spiegel did a piece on this first.
Kleinfeld is not boss of Siemens anymore. He's now boss of Alcoa.
It was the new CEO Peter Loescher who announced the 17k job cuts.

Sorry, my mistake. Thanks for the correction.

Lol-x · 12 July 2008, 10:31 AM

I think the problem is the way he is posing in the photo, it accentuates the focus on his watch, kind of like he was modelling for a watch magazine.
At least the guy has good taste in watches

Ed Rooney · 12 July 2008, 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by samsamabjack

You see ??? That's why I don't wear my Rolex(The LV fake one or the real stupid useless DJ I used to have) in front of my employees......

You are the smartest guy ever.

cstegall · 12 July 2008, 10:52 AM

Maybe he was trying to sell it?

Market survey if you will.

SPORTSFAN · 12 July 2008, 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by samsamabjack

You see ??? That's why I don't wear my Rolex(The LV fake one or the real stupid useless DJ I used to have) in front of my employees......

Hi,
My staff would be disappointed in me if I wore anything fake.

They all know that I work as hard as them and that we are part of a team BUT I am the leader....

Regards Mike.

frostie · 12 July 2008, 07:27 PM

It's like he is showing off his watch

Maybe he was afraid of getting mugged

samsamabjack · 12 July 2008, 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by SPORTSFAN

Hi,
My staff would be disappointed in me if I wore anything fake.

They all know that I work as hard as them and that we are part of a team BUT I am the leader....

Regards Mike.

That is not entirely wrong actually. They use to fear and respect me a bit more when I used to wear a real DJ and Ralph Lauren shit few years ago...what a bunch of morons...
Now that i only use brandless Gap and Timex i can feel is a bit different......morons.

Gedanken · 12 July 2008, 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by samsamabjack

You see ??? That's why I don't wear my Rolex(The LV fake one or the real stupid useless DJ I used to have) in front of my employees......

Booster, what makes you think you have by any stretch of a hallucinogen-induced imagination anything whatsoever in common with the CEO of a well-known, international, miltimillion-dollar organisation? Is "me too" your mantra?

To be absolutely frank, your attitude towards Rolex makes your presence on this forum absolutely puzzling.

SKSeoul81 · 12 July 2008, 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by samsamabjack

That is not entirely wrong actually. They use to fear and respect me a bit more when I used to wear a real DJ and Ralph Lauren shit few years ago...what a bunch of morons...
Now that i only use brandless Gap and Timex i can feel is a bit different......morons.

Nice, how you call you subordinates morons... wouldn't want to work with you or for you to be honest. Doesn't really show integrity, leadership or anything for that matter, if thats the way you have to get respect from your team...sad.

Btw: where those real Ralph Lauren clothes?

samsamabjack · 12 July 2008, 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Gedanken

Booster, what makes you think you have by any stretch of a hallucinogen-induced imagination anything whatsoever in common with the CEO of a well-known, international, miltimillion-dollar organisation? Is "me too" your mantra?

To be absolutely frank, your attitude towards Rolex makes your presence on this forum absolutely puzzling.

Thank god i don't have nothing in common with this guy.Oh well,he can affor a Rolex, I can afford a Rolex,but I have 6 months off...he hardly have a week per year.No thanks.

jdc · 12 July 2008, 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by samsamabjack

That is not entirely wrong actually. They use to fear and respect me a bit more when I used to wear a real DJ and Ralph Lauren shit few years ago...what a bunch of morons...
Now that i only use brandless Gap and Timex i can feel is a bit different......morons.

You must command such respect from your staff

Let me guess you must be a consultant of some kind maybe anger management, motivational speaking, Ralph Lauren shirt rep?

If you are in the army I would make sure all your team is ahead of you in battle that's for sure

Gedanken · 12 July 2008, 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by samsamabjack

Thank god i don't have nothing in common with this guy.

Well, it's really strange that you're claiming to sympathise with the man. Can you make up your mid?

Gedanken · 12 July 2008, 07:51 PM

Uhh, Martin, I know the guy's a pain, but you're above sinking to his level and language. Care to amend you post?

moby33 · 12 July 2008, 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by samsamabjack

That is not entirely wrong actually. They use to fear and respect me a bit more when I used to wear a real DJ and Ralph Lauren shit few years ago...what a bunch of morons...
Now that i only use brandless Gap and Timex i can feel is a bit different......morons.

Fear & respect? Who are you trying to convince? Us or yourself?

And from your repeated use of the term Moron to describe your subordinates (assuming you really were ever in any type of real leadership position...I have my doubts about that...but that's another issue altogether), I've got to believe 'Fear & Respect' more accurately should have read, 'Despised & Disrespected'.

Please spare us the repeated false bravado in conjunction with the sophomoric, foul-mouthed posts. I thank you in advance.

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12 July 2008, 04:41 AM	#3
BigHat Banned Join Date: Sep 2007 Real Name: Matt Location: Arlington, VA Watch: Lange One MP Posts: 4,043	Well maybe because he looks like a Rolex ad in the first picture. Having one on and posing with one is a bit different. I suspect he had it changed because he looked like an idiot, not because anyone thought a guy making millions running a company worth billions sends the wrong message wearing a stainless steel watch. Of course, maybe the "fashion police" got to him and they expect something less "Lloyd Bridges" for a business suit.

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Tareg "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: LNDN/Turks&Caicos Watch: Sea-Dweller Posts: 212	Yup, he looks like he's flashing his watch in the first picture, actually pulling his sleeve to show it! Second pic looks better imo.

12 July 2008, 06:13 AM	#8
2careless "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Melbourne, AU Watch: Pepsi Posts: 4,370	See this: http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...icle508922.ece I think der Spiegel did a piece on this first. Kleinfeld is not boss of Siemens anymore. He's now boss of Alcoa. It was the new CEO Peter Loescher who announced the 17k job cuts.

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sini1717 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Real Name: PAUL Location: u k Watch: WHITE FACE DAYTONA Posts: 632	he may not want some people to know what he has some people are jealous others are muggers others like us lot love em so he may just be being discreet

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lady_sandy "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: mexico Posts: 6	Maybe it has to do with something about the brand. See maybe it is best he dosent associate to any brand, could be a PR move, so he dosent show any afiliation to any brand, especialy if that picture is shown in any news media But in general i say, no one should be embaraced LOL its nothing to be embaraced about

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Timber Loftis "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Real Name: Jon Location: Chicago Watch: IIc,DJII,P244,A1-Z Posts: 2,857	Whoever was smart enough to tell him he looked like a watch advertisement should have also told him the whole nonchalant lean thing isn't the best way to strike a pose.

12 July 2008, 07:00 AM	#14
2careless "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Melbourne, AU Watch: Pepsi Posts: 4,370	I think the reason why this photo thing was blown out of proportion was that Kleinfeld promised to close down non-performing divisions of Siemens (i.e. job losses) and with a CEO wearing what considered as blingy watch, that image doesn't convey well. So, there is a spin job that backfired In the end he didn't do a good job either - sending the mobiles division to Benq and it all blew up in his face.

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Thomas Banned Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: USA Posts: 625	The watch hanging out like that is just tacky looking anyway

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cstegall "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Texas Watch: YMII Posts: 107	Maybe he was trying to sell it? Market survey if you will.

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Gedanken "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2005 Real Name: Sir Location: Melbourne Watch: F-series SD Posts: 8,589	Uhh, Martin, I know the guy's a pain, but you're above sinking to his level and language. Care to amend you post? __________________ You buy a Casio to make sure you're on time; you wear a Rolex because you don't have to be on time.

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