5711 clasp ambivalence

[Busyboy]

I'm not up for a patek bashing so please don't think I'm a hater. I love my 5711. But ....

I remember feeling the same way as I did when I got my first (pre ceramic) rolex submariner. Effectively slightly disappointed with the clasp.

Compared to the new 114060 for example the older 14060 seems to be far less sturdy and perhaps fragile or insubstantial. Yet I do know many like its roots, its no bling form, and - i know its functionality is unquestionable...

When I play with my 5711, I'm just left feeling that the clasp is a little awkward to undo... It reminds me of the tool aspect of rolex evolution - which I hadn't expected from a patek - as you never hear them reffered to in that way... I must say - The arrangement on the 40th anniversary AP 15202 just seems more pleasing.

Hopefully I'll grow used to it, I have only had it a few weeks...

Does anyone feel this way? Or can anyone help me appreciate the patek clasp experience more?


Good day all....

[HorologyK]

What's the problem ? Yanking a clasp so hard for it to open on a 25K watch ?? Ok, got it.

[ap1]

I find it awkward too but cmon man, you have the hottest ss watch on the planet

[texex91]

Clasp is weak to me on 5711 (and other Nauts)...never liked them. But you will get use to it.

Agree, 15202 clasp is much easier to handle.

[Busyboy]

Glad u all seem to get it

[KarlS]

Truly rubbish but you get used to it

[walds11]

Originally Posted by KarlS

Truly rubbish but you get used to it

I haven't handled one, but that is what I've heard. The clasp does look quite solid and comfy from viewing all the pics and YouTube vids.

[Vipes]

Originally Posted by texex91

clasp is weak to me on 5711 (and other nauts)...never liked them. But you will get use to it.

Agree, 15202 clasp is much easier to handle.

+1.

[kultschar]

So whats the main concern (ive yet to try one)

Hard to flip open??

[goog53]

Simply put... The clasp is horrible. BUT the watch is pretty great so we accept the flaw and get lost in that beautiful dial. Enjoy it and maybe Patek made it that way so you refuse to take the darn thing off LOL!

[Defiancekofb]

Originally Posted by Busyboy

I'm not up for a patek bashing so please don't think I'm a hater. I love my 5711. But ....

I remember feeling the same way as I did when I got my first (pre ceramic) rolex submariner. Effectively slightly disappointed with the clasp.

Compared to the new 114060 for example the older 14060 seems to be far less sturdy and perhaps fragile or insubstantial. Yet I do know many like its roots, its no bling form, and - i know its functionality is unquestionable...

When I play with my 5711, I'm just left feeling that the clasp is a little awkward to undo... It reminds me of the tool aspect of rolex evolution - which I hadn't expected from a patek - as you never hear them reffered to in that way... I must say - The arrangement on the 40th anniversary AP 15202 just seems more pleasing.

Hopefully I'll grow used to it, I have only had it a few weeks...

Does anyone feel this way? Or can anyone help me appreciate the patek clasp experience more?


Good day all....

Yes that's pretty much the only downside to this watch, but overall it's not so bad. At least you know it's solidly holding to your wrist and it's not going to fly off at any moment. Wear it in good health.

[ap1]

Originally Posted by kultschar

So whats the main concern (ive yet to try one)

Hard to flip open??

Let's not forget how the flip lock rubs that pretty link

[AK797]

It is hard to open, on the RG as well, but I prefer too hard than too easy, which I've had on other watches.

[tonupbklyn]

all friction-fit double deployants can be adjusted how soft/hard it must be yanked (or pushed in) by carefully bending the center bend. it's a common practice to do so.

that being said, i tend to agree with this particular characterization. moreover, the sentiment of 'you'll get used to it' is a bit of a copout...or even brand/mfr snobbery... to not acknowledge and improve a fairly objective and fair criticism of the design.

to be THE best and iconic SS sports watch, it's rather annoying and perplexing to not have an equally matched clasp.
in fact, it deserves to have one.

that all said, i still want the 5711 ;)

[mps354]

The clasp isn't perfect, but I do like how slim / low profile it is. Rolex Glidelock clasps are far more functional, but you lose some aesthetic value with the chunk of metal under your wrists

[rollee1]

I agree with the clasp, it's stiff. The first time I thought I could break the bracelet.
Visit a boutique and play it rough there, to get use to the mechanism.

[tonupbklyn]

agree re: rolex glidelock being too chunky. but why do we continue to see that particular comparison?

u can't tell me that an engineering and artistically minded company like PP can't come up with a deployant that is beautifully slim, functionally appealing AND equally matched with the rest of the 5711's entire case/bracelet.

evidence for the jury: AP Jumbo's most current deployant. arguably a positive evolution from the pre-40th anniv version.

[Busyboy]

Originally Posted by rollee1

I agree with the clasp, it's stiff. The first time I thought I could break the bracelet.
Visit a boutique and play it rough there, to get use to the mechanism.

Breaking it is a concern

[Busyboy]

Certainly didn't expect everyone to agree.... Didn't realise it was "a thing".... Thought I might get told to complain, try another (impossible) or even to wind my patek shaming neck in

[lapince]

I agree on the crappy old "tuna can" clasps from Rolex, so sure the clasp on the Nautilus isn't great technically, but it is ok for me, much better than the old Rolex clasps, ok on the actual ones Rolex kicks , and especially good luck if someone wants to steal it, the Aquanaut clasp is way better, but a good thief will steal it you won't even notice, but yeah I prefer the 5167 clasp, or my 15300's clasp...

[mps354]

Originally Posted by tonupbklyn

agree re: rolex glidelock being too chunky. but why do we continue to see that particular comparison?

u can't tell me that an engineering and artistically minded company like PP can't come up with a deployant that is beautifully slim, functionally appealing AND equally matched with the rest of the 5711's entire case/bracelet.

evidence for the jury: AP Jumbo's most current deployant. arguably a positive evolution from the pre-40th anniv version.

What I'm saying is that I don't think the clasp is a huge problem. Can it be improved upon? Absolutely. Is it as bad as some of the complaints in this thread? In my opinion, no way. I used the Glidelock comparison because most on the forum really like it. However, it has its drawbacks.

[debner4]

Has anyone actually broken their clasp? If yes, then this is a real concern. If not, then who cares? My only concern with its difficulty is worrying I am going to break the bracelet. If it is never going to break, it really isn't a big deal. If it could break, it is a VERY big deal.

Has anyone ever broken their bracelet undoing the clasp?

[Hollister]

It goes on in the morning, comes off at night, and I've never given it a second thought. But then I'm into watches, not clasps.

[Russell996]

This clasp hating seems alien to me, the clasp is beautifully slim, has a pleasing level of resistance to opening but is easy to operate and shuts with 3 lovely clicks. Best clasp on any bracelet I've owned for combination of slim design and positive opening and closing.

[martinr]

The clasp won't break. I have had multiple Nautilus and also the 5960 1A has the same clasp. I agree with Russell, it takes getting used to but it's secure, comfortable, and looks good closed.

[Swearengen]

I have just about mastered the clasp on my 5712. The problem starts when you let one of your watch buddies try it on. You have to get just a little too intimate in helping them undo the clasp.

[subtona]

More important to me is how sturdy and robust the clasp is. It is slim and holds fast without being uncomfortable. The bit of effort used to take it off is way down on my list.

[Mikegp]

Originally Posted by subtona

More important to me is how sturdy and robust the clasp is. It is slim and holds fast without being uncomfortable. The bit of effort used to take it off is way down on my list.

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[GB-man]

Yeah we talk about it all the time here. Great watch, clasp.

[tonupbklyn]

Originally Posted by Russell996

This clasp hating seems alien to me, the clasp is beautifully slim, has a pleasing level of resistance to opening but is easy to operate and shuts with 3 lovely clicks. Best clasp on any bracelet I've owned for combination of slim design and positive opening and closing.

i don't believe any fair criticisms stated in this thread would be considered at all 'hate'. in fact, anyone even involved here either has one (and loves it) or is dying to get their hands on one (like me!).

that being said, 'pleasing level of resistance' and 'best clasp'..
i get it, these (like all statements here) are merely subjective opinions.... but come on!