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m.alex33 · 12 June 2017, 05:57 PM

Hello everybody,

i own this Rolex Sea Dweller that is not in really good conditions.
I'm looking forward to make a maintenance in a Rolex authorized center.
But, first, i would like to know if this could be considered real or fake (i think is really old, almost vintage).

Thank you very much in advance.

GLADIATOR · 13 June 2017, 08:34 AM

Sorry
Based on photo 1 - I must say its FAKE.
Indeed looking at all photos I am sure its fake.

Lets hear from others too

tommy91 · 13 June 2017, 09:26 AM

Fake, such a stupid one aswel patina on Swiss made dial

123Blueface · 13 June 2017, 09:29 AM

Yikes.

Cryten · 13 June 2017, 11:47 AM

cht · 13 June 2017, 12:24 PM

Where did you get your sea dweller?

Certainly you must know its fake...

GLADIATOR · 13 June 2017, 01:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cht

Where did you get your sea dweller?

Certainly you must know its fake...

Why "must" he know?

vipereaper30 · 13 June 2017, 01:51 PM

Not even close...

subtona · 13 June 2017, 02:00 PM

Great pics

Mickyfin · 13 June 2017, 02:36 PM

100% fake, and $30 fake at that, where did you purchase the watch from?

Tomas Eriksson · 13 June 2017, 02:48 PM

Fake fake fake. Makes me sad

flintsghost · 13 June 2017, 04:05 PM

I'm not so sure. The fact that it appears to have tritium inserts in the WG hour markers and possibly luminova hands doesn't make it fake. This combination though rare has been discussed on this forum before and even pictured somewhere as I recall. The watch appears to have been dragged behind a plow and is certainly in bad shape. But I would like to know why everyone is so sure it's fake. Enlighten me.

I own 3 SD40's including a D, a Z and an M. This has all the elements except for the hour markers and hands I mentioned. The crown is right, the markings are right, the stampings and embossed marks on the bracelet match the really old bracelets in my collection. But I have an open mind and I won't say it's not fake if you can give me some good reasons why someone believes it is.

a.sailor009 · 13 June 2017, 05:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tomas Eriksson

Fake fake fake. Makes me sad

Hi Tomas, thanks for your answer.
Can you tell me why do you think it's fake ? Thanks again

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a.sailor009 · 13 June 2017, 05:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by flintsghost

I'm not so sure. The fact that it appears to have tritium inserts in the WG hour markers and possibly luminova hands doesn't make it fake. This combination though rare has been discussed on this forum before and even pictured somewhere as I recall. The watch appears to have been dragged behind a plow and is certainly in bad shape. But I would like to know why everyone is so sure it's fake. Enlighten me.

I own 3 SD40's including a D, a Z and an M. This has all the elements except for the hour markers and hands I mentioned. The crown is right, the markings are right, the stampings and embossed marks on the bracelet match the really old bracelets in my collection. But I have an open mind and I won't say it's not fake if you can give me some good reasons why someone believes it is.

Thanks for your answer flintsghost. I think the watch is very very old.
I would like to know from the other users how are they so certains that this is a 100% fake.
Thanks again everybody

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JayB · 13 June 2017, 05:57 PM

m.alex33
Join Date: Jun 2017
Location: Rome

a.sailor009
Join Date: Jun 2017
Location: Rome

I'm confused, might be easier for us to know who we're talking to if you ask the mod's to remove one of your accounts.

GLADIATOR · 13 June 2017, 09:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JayB

m.alex33
Join Date: Jun 2017
Location: Rome

a.sailor009
Join Date: Jun 2017
Location: Rome

I'm confused, might be easier for us to know who we're talking to if you ask the mod's to remove one of your accounts.

EXACTLY - why I (we) dont explain our reasons openly.

Its FAKE!

slipperman · 14 June 2017, 03:30 AM

a look at the movement would surely help deduce facts.

GLADIATOR · 14 June 2017, 03:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slipperman

a look at the movement would surely help deduce facts.

Agreed to that

flintsghost · 14 June 2017, 03:50 AM

Pictures of the model # and serial # under the end links would also be of help. But pulling off the back which most watch repair people have the tools for and then a picture before reassembling is the absolute best proof either way.

Tomas Eriksson · 14 June 2017, 04:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by a.sailor009

Hi Tomas, thanks for your answer.
Can you tell me why do you think it's fake ? Thanks again

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Dial, hands, claps, endlinks is in my eyes very obvious non Rolex. This reminds me of fontiac fiero lamborhini conversions. You can tell what it tries to be but it looks cheap and crocked.
This is while not even seeing the watch in person. It probably looks and feels even worse in real life.

flintsghost · 14 June 2017, 10:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tomas Eriksson

Dial, hands, claps, endlinks is in my eyes very obvious non Rolex. This reminds me of fontiac fiero lamborhini conversions. You can tell what it tries to be but it looks cheap and crocked.
This is while not even seeing the watch in person. It probably looks and feels even worse in real life.

Careful look at the endlinks and especially comparing the inside view to one of my own watches, makes me think that you are probably right about that point. Not sure I agree about the hands and dial though. I've never seen the tritium or the luminova material come out of the WG hour markers but I remain unconvinced that it couldn't happen. The hands don't look bad to me.

However, because it would be relatively easy to remove the bracelet and show the model and serial and he hasn't done that...I would have to agree that it's definitely suspicious.

a.sailor009 · 14 June 2017, 11:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by flintsghost

Careful look at the endlinks and especially comparing the inside view to one of my own watches, makes me think that you are probably right about that point. Not sure I agree about the hands and dial though. I've never seen the tritium or the luminova material come out of the WG hour markers but I remain unconvinced that it couldn't happen. The hands don't look bad to me.

However, because it would be relatively easy to remove the bracelet and show the model and serial and he hasn't done that...I would have to agree that it's definitely suspicious.

How can i unmount the bracelet?

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Gtecko · 14 June 2017, 11:21 PM

1st post, just joined, telling us you own this Rolex and asks if it is fake ... dodgy

a.sailor009 · 14 June 2017, 11:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gtecko

1st post, just joined, telling us you own this Rolex and asks if it is fake ... dodgy

... and so ? What's the problem with my post ?

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ttnpb · 15 June 2017, 02:44 AM

Its fake.

milov · 15 June 2017, 06:27 AM

The opinion on this forum seems to be weighted towards this watch being fake. But if you are uncertain about our advice, then you should take the watch to a Rolex Service Centre. They will give you a quote for the service it is real. But they will also tell you it is fake for free.

rolexkidd · 15 June 2017, 10:52 AM

what kind of service are you looking to do? you can replace the battery yourself......

GLADIATOR · 15 June 2017, 12:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rolexkidd

what kind of service are you looking to do? you can replace the battery yourself......

How you know its a battery??
Please explain.
a

12 June 2017, 05:57 PM	#1
m.alex33 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2017 Location: Rome Posts: 1	Sea Dweller 16600 - FAKE or REAL Hello everybody, i own this Rolex Sea Dweller that is not in really good conditions. I'm looking forward to make a maintenance in a Rolex authorized center. But, first, i would like to know if this could be considered real or fake (i think is really old, almost vintage). Thank you very much in advance.

13 June 2017, 08:34 AM	#2
GLADIATOR "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Real Name: Adam Location: Costa Blanca, Watch: YMII,GMTII,DAYTONA Posts: 5,288	Sorry Based on photo 1 - I must say its FAKE. Indeed looking at all photos I am sure its fake. Lets hear from others too __________________ The truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it, ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is. Winston Churchill "We judge ourselves by what we feel capable of doing, while others judge us by what we have already done."

13 June 2017, 09:29 AM	#4
123Blueface "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: USA Watch: All Posts: 4,939	Yikes. __________________ Rolex 228235 DD40 Olive, 126710BLRO, 116710BLNR, 116613LB, 116500LN White, 126610LN, 116500LN Black, 126610LV, 116610LV Breitling Navitimer 01, Cartier Santos Large

13 June 2017, 02:00 PM	#9
subtona "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Real Name: gus Location: East Coast Watch: APK & sometimes Y Posts: 25,987	Great pics __________________

13 June 2017, 02:48 PM	#11
Tomas Eriksson "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Stockholm Watch: 15707CE Posts: 1,985	Fake fake fake. Makes me sad __________________ State of the union: 5066A,15400ST,15707CE,116610LN,26470OR and a few other…

13 June 2017, 09:26 AM	#3
tommy91 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Real Name: . Location: . Posts: 1,343	Fake, such a stupid one aswel patina on Swiss made dial

13 June 2017, 11:47 AM	#5
Cryten "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Terrafirma Posts: 2,655

13 June 2017, 12:24 PM	#6
cht 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Real Name: Chris Location: San antonio, TX Watch: 116610LV Posts: 2,137	Where did you get your sea dweller? Certainly you must know its fake...

13 June 2017, 01:51 PM	#8
vipereaper30 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jun 2015 Real Name: BMF Location: California USA Watch: FPJ UTC Posts: 2,242	Not even close...

13 June 2017, 02:36 PM	#10
Mickyfin "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Real Name: Michael Location: Suomi Watch: Planet Ocean Posts: 334	100% fake, and $30 fake at that, where did you purchase the watch from?

13 June 2017, 04:05 PM	#12
flintsghost "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2017 Real Name: Bill Location: Colorado USA Watch: Rolex 16600 Posts: 214	I'm not so sure. The fact that it appears to have tritium inserts in the WG hour markers and possibly luminova hands doesn't make it fake. This combination though rare has been discussed on this forum before and even pictured somewhere as I recall. The watch appears to have been dragged behind a plow and is certainly in bad shape. But I would like to know why everyone is so sure it's fake. Enlighten me. I own 3 SD40's including a D, a Z and an M. This has all the elements except for the hour markers and hands I mentioned. The crown is right, the markings are right, the stampings and embossed marks on the bracelet match the really old bracelets in my collection. But I have an open mind and I won't say it's not fake if you can give me some good reasons why someone believes it is.

13 June 2017, 05:57 PM	#15
JayB "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: UK Watch: EXP, DJ, NF Posts: 710	m.alex33 Join Date: Jun 2017 Location: Rome a.sailor009 Join Date: Jun 2017 Location: Rome I'm confused, might be easier for us to know who we're talking to if you ask the mod's to remove one of your accounts. __________________ In 1953 they used Rolex Oysters and oxygen on Everest. In 1978 they managed without the oxygen. Rolex Explorer -- Rolex Datejust -- Tudor North Flag -- Omega De Ville Trésor -- Tudor Black Bay GMT -- Omega Speedmaster Professional -- Tudor Black Bay Fifty Eight

14 June 2017, 03:30 AM	#17
slipperman "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: westcoast Posts: 134	a look at the movement would surely help deduce facts.

14 June 2017, 03:50 AM	#19
flintsghost "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2017 Real Name: Bill Location: Colorado USA Watch: Rolex 16600 Posts: 214	Pictures of the model # and serial # under the end links would also be of help. But pulling off the back which most watch repair people have the tools for and then a picture before reassembling is the absolute best proof either way.

14 June 2017, 11:21 PM	#23
Gtecko "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2017 Location: Halifax Posts: 518	1st post, just joined, telling us you own this Rolex and asks if it is fake ... dodgy

15 June 2017, 02:44 AM	#25
ttnpb "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: So Cal Watch: 16803 Posts: 144	Its fake.

15 June 2017, 06:27 AM	#26
milov "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2015 Location: Sydney Posts: 517	The opinion on this forum seems to be weighted towards this watch being fake. But if you are uncertain about our advice, then you should take the watch to a Rolex Service Centre. They will give you a quote for the service it is real. But they will also tell you it is fake for free.

15 June 2017, 10:52 AM	#27
rolexkidd "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2016 Location: Texas Posts: 81	what kind of service are you looking to do? you can replace the battery yourself......

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