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Old 9 October 2017, 11:14 PM   #1
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Pronouncing Patek

Yes, dumbest question ever. As Don Adams would say, "Sorry about that chief!"

When I hear Patek Philippe pronounced, usually it seems different depending on whether one is saying "Patek" or "Patek Philippe."

"Patek Philippe" seems to be pronounced in a French way, "Pah-tek" with the accent on "tek."

But when saying "Patek" for short, it seems like people frequently say, "Pa-dick" with the accent on the "Pa."

Is this my imagination?
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Old 9 October 2017, 11:42 PM   #2
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I've heard TS pronounce it with a hard T and Frasier with soft T. We should ask some Polish people.
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Old 9 October 2017, 11:46 PM   #3
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I've heard TS pronounce it with a hard T and Frasier with soft T. We should ask some Polish people.
probably the best answer. In french it's said slightly different than how a lot of native english speakers say it for the most part and maybe neither are right.
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Old 10 October 2017, 12:02 AM   #4
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Do a search on Youtube and listen to an interview with Thierry Stern. I pronounce it the way he pronounces it.
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Old 10 October 2017, 12:03 AM   #5
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Old 10 October 2017, 12:07 AM   #6
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The French know best
In this case I have to agree
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Old 10 October 2017, 12:16 AM   #7
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Do a search on Youtube and listen to an interview with Thierry Stern. I pronounce it the way he pronounces it.
Hmmm, that's good advice! Done.

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Old 10 October 2017, 12:18 AM   #8
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To avoid the problem, if I see one I say "nice Timex."
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Old 10 October 2017, 12:25 AM   #9
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I pronounce Patek Philippe as "the manufacturer of the 5522"
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Old 10 October 2017, 12:57 AM   #10
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its pronounced "pay up"
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Old 10 October 2017, 01:43 AM   #11
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Why lose sleep... let The Next Generation worry about how to say it.
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Old 10 October 2017, 01:48 AM   #12
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Why lose sleep... let The Next Generation worry about how to say it.
I would say the number of sleepless nights I have had wondering how to pronounce a watch that I don’t own I could count on two hands. Maybe even one hand!
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Old 10 October 2017, 01:54 AM   #13
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I would say the number of sleepless nights I have had wondering how to pronounce a watch that I don’t own I could count on two hands. Maybe even one hand!
just quote reference numbers at your AD. Then you will sound smart and won't risk looking like an idiot mispronouncing a brand name.
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Old 10 October 2017, 02:07 AM   #14
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just quote reference numbers at your AD. Then you will sound smart and won't risk looking like an idiot mispronouncing a brand name.
That’s a whole new can of worms! Is it the 5-7-11, or 57-11, or any other combo? I’d go 5-7-11, but on the other hand I’d go 59-80.
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Old 10 October 2017, 02:09 AM   #15
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But when saying "Patek" for short, it seems like people frequently say, "Pa-dick" with the accent on the "Pa."
I’ve never heard it pronounced Pa-dick.
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Old 10 October 2017, 02:23 AM   #16
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I’ve never heard it pronounced Pa-dick.
Better alternative of initials PeePee
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I’ve never heard it pronounced Pa-dick.
Yes, its either Paa Tech or Pad Eck.
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I’ve never heard it pronounced Pa-dick.

this seems similar. Its how i hear it said a lot.
https://www.hodinkee.com/articles/vi...-matt-jacobson
starting at 4:25. He says it several times

Thats the way its always said when i notice it on any episode of talking watches no matter who the collector is. I don't say it that way though, i say it the other way.
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That’s a whole new can of worms! Is it the 5-7-11, or 57-11, or any other combo? I’d go 5-7-11, but on the other hand I’d go 59-80.
So you are telling me that when i say "do you have any five thousand seven hundred eleven's in stock" I'm doing it wrong? No wonder why they always say no.
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Old 10 October 2017, 03:11 AM   #20
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Yes, its either Paa Tech or Pad Eck.
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this seems similar. Its how i hear it said a lot.
https://www.hodinkee.com/articles/vi...-matt-jacobson
starting at 4:25. He says it several times

Thats the way its always said when i notice it on any episode of talking watches no matter who the collector is. I don't say it that way though, i say it the other way.
I’m not hearing that on the talking watches episode. Sounds like Pa-tek to me.
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Old 10 October 2017, 03:12 AM   #21
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So you are telling me that when i say "do you have any five thousand seven hundred eleven's in stock" I'm doing it wrong? No wonder why they always say no.
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Old 10 October 2017, 03:21 AM   #22
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this seems similar. Its how i hear it said a lot.
https://www.hodinkee.com/articles/vi...-matt-jacobson
starting at 4:25. He says it several times

Thats the way its always said when i notice it on any episode of talking watches no matter who the collector is. I don't say it that way though, i say it the other way.
I'm having a hard time getting a good phonetic spelling that communicates what I am trying to communicate. But the pronunciation at 4:25 is the way I have heard it pronounced when someone is, like the interviewee, saying "Patek." But to me, it sounds different when someone pronounces Patek Philippe. I guess it doesn't matter...
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Old 10 October 2017, 03:32 AM   #23
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after every brand you can click on the speaker to hear how you should pronounce it

https://www.worthy.com/watch-pronunciation-guide

I speak German and French so this helps :-)
cause the site I referred too is not always correct
Blancpain for example ... they pronounce the 'C' while in fact you don't have to pronounce the 'C' .. you should say blanpain
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after every brand you can click on the speaker to hear how you should pronounce it

https://www.worthy.com/watch-pronunciation-guide

I speak German and French so this helps :-)
cause the site I referred too is not always correct
Blancpain for example ... they pronounce the 'C' while in fact you don't have to pronounce the 'C' .. you should say blanpain
They pronounce the C?

As a French to explain to english speakers I would say paw tech or paa tech, hard as the French A has no equivalent in English...
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I often hear Pa-tech. I'll have to admit that I still giggle a little bit when people say "pee-pee" for short.

In terms of the number references I would say 57-11 or 57-12. However in French I would say "cinq mille sept cent onze" or "five thousand seven hundred eleven"
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I often hear Pa-tech. I'll have to admit that I still giggle a little bit when people say "pee-pee" for short.

In terms of the number references I would say 57-11 or 57-12. However in French I would say "cinq mille sept cent onze" or "five thousand seven hundred eleven"
No even in french I say "cinquante sept onze" 57-11...
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I often hear Pa-tech. I'll have to admit that I still giggle a little bit when people say "pee-pee" for short.
You can get away with it with AP for those not comfortable saying Audemars Piguet. Pee pee (P.P.) just doesn't work at all in verbal communication.
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This is my go to guide for watch brand pronunciation: http://www.chronometrie.com/watchsou...soundspage.htm
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Old 10 October 2017, 09:02 AM   #29
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No even in french I say "cinquante sept onze" 57-11...
Interesting. When I was at the AD in Montreal they referred to it as "cinq mille sept cent onze", and I've seen Thierry Stern also say it that way.

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You can get away with it with AP for those not comfortable saying Audemars Piguet. Pee pee (P.P.) just doesn't work at all in verbal communication.
Believe it or not, at least in HK I've heard quite a few people (especially dealers) refer to Patek as "P.P." in conversation. It's not any less funny to me at least when mixed in with Cantonese.
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My wife's parents are both Polish and she's 100% fluent. She says it more along the lines of 'pah teck' with emphasis on the latter half. However 'patek' is not a common Polish word, nor last name.

Nonetheless, her pronunciation sounds much more fluid (and nicer) with her accent, than I do with my American tongue.

Franciszek Czapek (Patek's original partner) on the other hand......this sounds definitively more Polish to me.

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