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Old 21 September 2019, 07:56 AM   #1
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Amplitude of 3235

I have two watches with the 3235 movement . A DJ41 and SD43. Both of these seem to run in the 260-290 deg range, quite a bit lower than my other modern sports watch movements. Anyone else have similar experience?
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Old 21 September 2019, 09:45 AM   #2
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Which orientation of the watch did you test them at? 260 -270 is great for positions other than dial up or dial down, where it should be higher, where I've gotten 280 - 300).
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Old 21 September 2019, 10:28 AM   #3
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I have two watches with the 3235 movement . A DJ41 and SD43. Both of these seem to run in the 260-290 deg range, quite a bit lower than my other modern sports watch movements. Anyone else have similar experience?
Make sure that your watch is fully wound and you use a correct lift angle while you measure. It should be 55.
My 3235 on a DJ has 300+ amplitude.
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Old 21 September 2019, 06:52 PM   #4
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High amplitude is not analogous to good performance of a watch. There's a lot more to it than that and that is why the amplitude only needs to be below a maximum value when fully wound and above a minimum value after 24 hours.

Rolex claims the chronergy escapement is 15% more efficient which means less amplitude is required to perform optimally compared to swiss lever escapements.
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Old 22 September 2019, 12:23 AM   #5
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I use 55 as the lift angle and measure in six positions, dial up, dial perpendicular crown left, dial perpendicular crown right, crown down, crown up and dial down and take average readings.
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Old 6 September 2020, 05:00 AM   #6
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Amplitude dropping...

Yes, I think the 3235 in my SD43 has the same issue.

When I purchased the watch, the amplitude ranged from 288 (FU) to 239 (CD).
Now the movement is running at 260 (FU) to 218 (CD).

I had the same issue with my GMT 126710BLRO, along with a sticking date disk, and it required three trips for Rolex to get both of those issues right. The first time I sent it in was because the amplitude dropped to 188 (CD).



Disclosures: full wind, gain turned up high for the microphone to listen through thicker dive case, lift angle at 55 degrees, and the time-keeping is gradually slowing.

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Old 6 September 2020, 09:45 PM   #7
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Yes, I think the 3235 in my SD43 has the same issue.

When I purchased the watch, the amplitude ranged from 288 (FU) to 239 (CD).
Now the movement is running at 260 (FU) to 218 (CD).

I had the same issue with my GMT 126710BLRO, along with a sticking date disk, and it required three trips for Rolex to get both of those issues right. The first time I sent it in was because the amplitude dropped to 188 (CD).



Disclosures: full wind, gain turned up high for the microphone to listen through thicker dive case, lift angle at 55 degrees, and the time-keeping is gradually slowing.

Any TRF community insight appreciated,

-Sheldon
For 32xx the minimum permitted amplitude is 200 degrees measured after 24 hours.

I suggest checking that, then you'll have a definitive answer.
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For 32xx the minimum permitted amplitude is 200 degrees measured after 24 hours.

I suggest checking that, then you'll have a definitive answer.
Perfect thank you!

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Old 7 September 2020, 01:03 PM   #9
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My new Explorer ran 260 dial up and down; Rolex said it was fine.
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Old 8 September 2020, 11:27 PM   #10
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Perfect thank you!

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3235 Update

Thanks for looping back.

I attempted to insert the table that I sent to Rolex, but cannot seem to find the method for inserting HTML or PHP that works with the platform. I have attached a .pdf of my findings.

The watch is going to Rolex Dallas RSC today.

This is my second 32xx movement, and the fourth time that I have to send it into Rolex (but the first time for this watch).

I do feel fortunate that Rolex understands customer service and will ultimately will get resolved.

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Thanks for looping back.

I attempted to insert the table that I sent to Rolex, but cannot seem to find the method for inserting HTML or PHP that works with the platform. I have attached a .pdf of my findings.

The watch is going to Rolex Dallas RSC today.

This is my second 32xx movement, and the fourth time that I have to send it into Rolex (but the first time for this watch).

I do feel fortunate that Rolex understands customer service and will ultimately will get resolved.

-Sheldon
Sorry to hear you’ve had multiple 32xx issues.

Better that it fails during the warranty period than after it expires is my take on it.
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Old 26 September 2020, 02:47 AM   #13
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For 32xx the minimum permitted amplitude is 200 degrees measured after 24 hours.

I suggest checking that, then you'll have a definitive answer.
In Crown down position.

The 32XX has had some teething problems, the biggest one being the center seconds wheel wear in the cannon pinion. They added an oiling point there in the manual. The 3135 never had that problem strangely.

Also theyve updated the calendar wheel with a new version, there was problems with the date change, and day/date change on the 3255.

I've serviced a number of 32XXs, mostly warranty repairs, and they never seem to have very high amplitude directly after servicing. Around 270-280 full wind at best. I think this is normal for the movement and has to do with the longer power reserve and escapement. Timing results are usually spot on.
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Old 26 September 2020, 07:37 AM   #14
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Thank you! This helps. The Date Wheel issue resonates with my experience with the 3285 movement date wheel issue that I had with the 126710.



Rolex Dallas indicated a 6 week turn around on my 126600 and no mention of a full service . We’ll see how it goes.

Thank you again for your insights...


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In Crown down position.

The 32XX has had some teething problems, the biggest one being the center seconds wheel wear in the cannon pinion. They added an oiling point there in the manual. The 3135 never had that problem strangely.

Also theyve updated the calendar wheel with a new version, there was problems with the date change, and day/date change on the 3255.

I've serviced a number of 32XXs, mostly warranty repairs, and they never seem to have very high amplitude directly after servicing. Around 270-280 full wind at best. I think this is normal for the movement and has to do with the longer power reserve and escapement. Timing results are usually spot on.
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