1675 Fuchsia Inserts, what is going on?!? $$$$$

[pierson]

Ok, so I have a problem..... (dont we all).

I really want a Fuchsia dial on my 1675 (1972, 3.1m serial). Yes, yes, I know they should be on MK1 watches, but I don't really care. If I ever sell the watch, I can just sell the insert/dial.

My problem is that prices are beyond nuts. For a good Fuchsia with decent blue I'd have to pay well over $4,500. Arg! Why do they even exist? I now want one.

I found this one and can get for a "decent" price. What does everyone think? The ghost part intrigues me, as it is really really rare. Or am I doing what I always do and justifying.....?

Moderators and everyone - I know I have asked this recently, but wanted to try again with a second, much more important question - does everyone think this will be rare in the future and where they think dial prices are going? Just in case I need to resell. also, is is "appropriate" to have a non exact (year/vintage) dial? not that I really care, we like what we like :)

[Dan S]

You previously started a thread to ask the exact same question about the exact same bezel in this exact same forum and received quite a few responses. What is the point of starting a new thread to ask the same question again. Bumping the old thread would be bad enough, but starting a new thread seems inappropriate. If everyone did this, it would be very tedious.

https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=768142

[pierson]

Originally Posted by Dan S

You previously started a thread to ask the exact same question about the exact same bezel in this exact same forum and received quite a few responses. What is the point of starting a new thread to ask the same question again. Bumping the old thread would be bad enough, but starting a new thread seems inappropriate. If everyone did this, it would be very tedious.

https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=768142

You are 100% right, just trying a different direction and wanted it to be more of a general conversation about these costs. I am sorry! I will take it down. Really don't want to pester.

[pierson]

Originally Posted by Dan S

You previously started a thread to ask the exact same question about the exact same bezel in this exact same forum and received quite a few responses. What is the point of starting a new thread to ask the same question again. Bumping the old thread would be bad enough, but starting a new thread seems inappropriate. If everyone did this, it would be very tedious.

https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=768142

My fault, doesn't look like I can delete the thread. I really dont want to be a pain, just hate being screwed on vintage stuff. I was burnt big time last year, even though I did a ton of research (I thought) and tried to find every detail I could. It seems like the vintage market is full of people who take advantage of amateurs like me and only for the true pros. I LOVE the watches and the history, but do like to trade. I look at every possible string and research everything I cant, yet I find myself getting screwed. So hard for us non-experts.

[1665fan]

Your not getting screwed...the price is the price....they are beautiful, I have one, other people want them that’s why they are expensive....

[Verdi]

My 2 cents.
Spending thousands of bucks on a faded bezel with half of it completely gone.....is not money well spend.
I personally much prefer a bezel that can actually be read and used for what its intended.

But, if you want one, go ahead. Dont worry about future value, nothing can justify the price other than your own desire to have one. That is pretty much applicable for anything in the vintage world.

[springer]

Nice fuchsias start around $5,000 and up. Personally, since I have owned several, I can write that the one you are looking at is not very collectable due to the poor condition. The seller can ask whatever they want and since experience tells me there are buyers for almost everything, this insert is a sub-$2,000 insert for me.

[pierson]

Originally Posted by springer

Nice fuchsias start around $5,000 and up. Personally, since I have owned several, I can write that the one you are looking at is not very collectable due to the poor condition. The seller can ask whatever they want and since experience tells me there are buyers for almost everything, this insert is a sub-$2,000 insert for me.

Thank you - I really appreciate that.
While I’m not doing this as a business and really don’t intend to sell, I do want to get the right price and am having an incredibly hard time figuring out what the right price for this stuff is

[bmb15]

Sorry, but I don't like the view of this insert, it is not a faded Fuchsia but 50% gone, would not install, even given for free. I also don't like the $$$ driven motivation of this thread, only my personal opinion.

[bmb15]

Originally Posted by Dan S

You previously started a thread to ask the exact same question about the exact same bezel in this exact same forum and received quite a few responses. What is the point of starting a new thread to ask the same question again. Bumping the old thread would be bad enough, but starting a new thread seems inappropriate. If everyone did this, it would be very tedious.

https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=768142

Exactly this.
Consequently, if I understand you correctly, a moderator should stop this one?

[swaini3]

and be careful there are aftermarket ones that can look ok for someone not too familiar with inserts....

[pierson]

Originally Posted by swaini3

and be careful there are aftermarket ones that can look ok for someone not too familiar with inserts....

EXACTLY what Im frustrated with.

Does this one look aftermarket?

[Gmt21]

Also be aware that given the buzz on fuchsia - there are nice vintage inserts being labeled as fuchsia or "fuchsia like" etc. But I think you have the idea of correct colors based on your post.

The one you have just above looks good to me.

Here is one of mine for reference

[Tom1675]

That one is genuine.

[linesiders]

I remember thinking I was at top dollar when i sold a nice one for $1500 - wish I had that one back ; )

[roh123]

It’s just weird imho. They are a slightly different color during two years. Correct for watches around 1968. It is not a fade or anything. It is just a different color to begin with. Why people pay lots of money for that is way beyond me but each to their own I guess.

[pierson]

Originally Posted by Tom1675

That one is genuine.

THANK YOU!! Now I feel so much better. Cost me a lot of $$ and dont want to get nailed again.

Have to say, without you all, I could have made many more mistakes. I cant imagine how many people out there are walking around with things that are fake/wrong without knowing it.

[Gmt21]

Originally Posted by roh123

It’s just weird imho. They are a slightly different color during two years. Correct for watches around 1968. It is not a fade or anything. It is just a different color to begin with. Why people pay lots of money for that is way beyond me but each to their own I guess.

It's also interesting that some from exact same era fade to pink.

I have a pink/blue with fuchsia color on the back.
I wonder if fuchsia eventually faded to the pink over much more time.

[roh123]

Originally Posted by Gmt21

It's also interesting that some from exact same era fade to pink.

I have a pink/blue with fuchsia color on the back.
I wonder if fuchsia eventually faded to the pink over much more time.

They are all pink. Even on the back.

[Gmt21]

Originally Posted by roh123

They are all pink. Even on the back.

Not this one, off my 1968 1675

[roh123]

Ah.. I read pink and fuchsia as the same color. That one is interesting and is imho the version after fuchsias or just a very faded fuchsia. Hard to tell tone from your pic. Is it more orange or just a pale fuchsia color red? I would assume the base paint was the same as the fuchsias since it has that color on the back. Thanks for sharing!

[Gmt21]

Originally Posted by roh123

Ah.. I read pink and fuchsia as the same color. That one is interesting and is imho the version after fuchsias or just a very faded fuchsia. Hard to tell tone from your pic. Is it more orange or just a pale fuchsia color red? I would assume the base paint was the same as the fuchsias since it has that color on the back. Thanks for sharing!

Yeah it's an interesting one. The back is dead on fuchsia. That's why I wonder if the front was originally fuchsia but just faded way more to a pink.

[1665fan]

Originally Posted by Gmt21

Not this one, off my 1968 1675

First one I’ve seen like that one....interesting for sure

[Tom1675]

Originally Posted by 1665fan

First one I’ve seen like that one....interesting for sure

Yeah x3, very interesting. I wonder if the lighting is muting the color a bit? Thanks for sharing that!

[Gmt21]

Originally Posted by Tom1675

Yeah x3, very interesting. I wonder if the lighting is muting the color a bit? Thanks for sharing that!

This is a better side by side. Ideally a natural light shot would be best.

[1675-David]

Originally Posted by roh123

on a side note, cool image showing two brand new rolex sports watches from 1968 in all their imperfect, uneven lugged, springbar sticking out glory

[PVR]

This is a great post because I am being offered a watch now that is very expensive but, with a nearly perfect genuine deep fuchsia. Wondering how much I could sell off the insert for to end up with a nice watch. I had thought the prices had come down but, it seems the demand is still strong. If I end up with the watch I will post some pics.. Good info here

[cwilson13]

Once you go fuchsia.....

[mattedialdoc]

Originally Posted by cwilson13

Once you go fuchsia.....

....you can’t afford to buy anything else!


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[cwilson13]

Originally Posted by mattedialdoc

....you can’t afford to buy anything else!


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That’s ok.
No need to buy anything else! ;)


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