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bonatto · 20 January 2018, 04:09 AM

A friend has this currently and would like to check if any red flags. Looks like bezel/insert have been changed, anything else?

bonatto · 20 January 2018, 05:17 AM

I've just had word from him that after speaking to a local collector they think the watch is fake.

zapokee · 20 January 2018, 12:40 PM

Unusual to see that kind of case corrosion on a fake...

Beelzy · 20 January 2018, 02:11 PM

The watch does have certain discrepancies that would make me leary.

Hawk99 · 20 January 2018, 04:50 PM

Other than the insert not being correct, what's wrong with it?
The movement looks correct, and the dial looks good too although the lume is a little puffy.

roh123 · 20 January 2018, 08:49 PM

Personally I don’t like it. Dial and caseback look completely wrong. Set makes no sense with 2.5m paper, that box and a watch like that.

I have no interest in these kind of watches so please excuse me if I am wrong. To me it looks fake. Please show us serial and ref numbers from in between the lugs.

Just throwing my opinion in there as some say it looks good.

bonatto · 20 January 2018, 08:55 PM

The movement is certainly correct. Papers, box, bracelet all appear too "New", I agree, especially the bracelet. But I'm no familiar with fake folded links, but I'm not knowledgeable in the minutiae of vintage rolex. The watch was sold by auction house about 5 years ago. It's now in the hands of. Dealer trying to verify authenticity.

bonatto · 20 January 2018, 08:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by roh123

Personally I don’t like it. Dial and caseback look completely wrong. Set makes no sense with 2.5m paper, that box and a watch like that.

I have no interest in these kind of watches so please excuse me if I am wrong. To me it looks fake. Please show us serial and ref numbers from in between the lugs.

Just throwing my opinion in there as some say it looks good.

These were some of the concerns raised.

roh123 · 20 January 2018, 09:01 PM

Yes. Forgot the bracelet. 9315 stamp does look terrible. Can’t comment on much else from those low quality pics.

shofzr · 20 January 2018, 09:53 PM

Frankenwatch at best .. the auto bridge says 1570, and the balance wheel and bridge are 1560.

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bonatto · 20 January 2018, 10:41 PM

Thanks guys, watch has been returned.

springer · 21 January 2018, 04:26 AM

Here is a thread I put together a while ago regarding attributes of a genuine 9315 bracelet with plenty of photos.

https://rolexvintageforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=213

20 January 2018, 04:09 AM	#1
bonatto "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: UK/EU Posts: 222	5512 check A friend has this currently and would like to check if any red flags. Looks like bezel/insert have been changed, anything else?

20 January 2018, 09:53 PM	#10
shofzr "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Real Name: Adrian Location: Dallas Watch: 218235 BronzeWaves Posts: 760	Frankenwatch at best .. the auto bridge says 1570, and the balance wheel and bridge are 1560. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ Sea-Dweller 16600 Day-Date II 218235 Cellinum 5240/6 Speedmaster 125

21 January 2018, 04:26 AM	#12
springer 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Real Name: jP Location: Texas Watch: GMT-MASTER Posts: 17,197	Here is a thread I put together a while ago regarding attributes of a genuine 9315 bracelet with plenty of photos. https://rolexvintageforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=213 __________________ Member of NAWCC since 1990. INSTAGRAM USER NAME: SPRINGERJFP Visit my Instagram page to view some of the finest vintage GMTs anywhere - as well as other vintage classics.

20 January 2018, 05:17 AM	#2
bonatto "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: UK/EU Posts: 222	I've just had word from him that after speaking to a local collector they think the watch is fake.

20 January 2018, 12:40 PM	#3
zapokee "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Japan Posts: 4,344	Unusual to see that kind of case corrosion on a fake...

20 January 2018, 02:11 PM	#4
Beelzy "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2010 Real Name: Chris Location: Cen-Cal Watch: 16610 Posts: 869	The watch does have certain discrepancies that would make me leary.

20 January 2018, 04:50 PM	#5
Hawk99 "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: BC Posts: 388	Other than the insert not being correct, what's wrong with it? The movement looks correct, and the dial looks good too although the lume is a little puffy.

20 January 2018, 08:49 PM	#6
roh123 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Real Name: Per Location: Sweden Watch: Gilt Rolex Posts: 2,946	Personally I don’t like it. Dial and caseback look completely wrong. Set makes no sense with 2.5m paper, that box and a watch like that. I have no interest in these kind of watches so please excuse me if I am wrong. To me it looks fake. Please show us serial and ref numbers from in between the lugs. Just throwing my opinion in there as some say it looks good.

20 January 2018, 08:55 PM	#7
bonatto "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: UK/EU Posts: 222	The movement is certainly correct. Papers, box, bracelet all appear too "New", I agree, especially the bracelet. But I'm no familiar with fake folded links, but I'm not knowledgeable in the minutiae of vintage rolex. The watch was sold by auction house about 5 years ago. It's now in the hands of. Dealer trying to verify authenticity.

20 January 2018, 09:01 PM	#9
roh123 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Real Name: Per Location: Sweden Watch: Gilt Rolex Posts: 2,946	Yes. Forgot the bracelet. 9315 stamp does look terrible. Can’t comment on much else from those low quality pics.

20 January 2018, 10:41 PM	#11
bonatto "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: UK/EU Posts: 222	Thanks guys, watch has been returned.

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