Fake Omega From Reputable Seller?

[DVDA]

I bought a new Omega Speedmaster from a well known seller but I have my suspicions it might be fake. Before confronting seller (they would accept the return based on reputation) I wanted to get your thoughts as I am not knowledgable with Omega. In the photos I included my Broad Arrow to compare. One flag is the serial numbers are in different directions between Moonwatch and Broad Arrow. Other is that the serial etching is also different style. Also the bracelet seems less substantial. Lastly the chronograph movement on Moonwatch which cant be pictured seems more ticky then sweepy like it is on Broad Arrow but that could be intentional.

Thoughts?











https://imgur.com/a/vrpsZhB more pics

[DVDA]

Forgot to mention the Moon Watch feels like it weighs less than Broad Arrow

[toolr]

Can't tell anything from the very blurry pictures, however I have a couple thoughts on the points you are questioning. The first being the hand being more "ticky", the cal 1861 in the moonwatch beats at 21,600 VPH as opposed to the coaxial Broad Arrow movement which beats at a faster 28,800 VPH... so the slower the beat, the more jittery it appears (normal).
The engraving type for the serial number has changed over the years and most recently is minus the black hue present in older models.
The serial number facing a different way really doesn't mean anything other than it's a different watch produced at a different time and that may be how it's applied now.
Hope this helps a little.

[toolr]

Originally Posted by DVDA

Forgot to mention the Moon Watch feels like it weighs less than Broad Arrow

That's because it does. Manual wind (no rotor) and hesalite crystal as opposed to two sapphire crystals on the Broad Arrow make a significant difference.

[Tools]

Your photos are worthless; I will say that you are not comparing "like" examples, except that they are both Omega products.

[Chester01]

I may get it checked by an AD before assuming anything is a fake.

[DVDA]

I don't know why the photos are blurry, they are clear when I upload them.

[dimag333]

Originally Posted by DVDA

I don't know why the photos are blurry, they are clear when I upload them.

Use a different service for uploading, that’s a paid service they make them blurry since you don’t subscribe to their service

Have a dealer check it, I’m sure it wasn’t done on purpose but still doesn’t mean it can’t happen

steve

[DVDA]

I'll re-upload, what's a good free service?

[Wahlberg]

Originally Posted by DVDA

I'll re-upload, what's a good free service?

imgur.com

[DVDA]

[DVDA]

https://imgur.com/a/vrpsZhB more pics

[DVDA]

Originally Posted by toolr

Can't tell anything from the very blurry pictures, however I have a couple thoughts on the points you are questioning. The first being the hand being more "ticky", the cal 1861 in the moonwatch beats at 21,600 VPH as opposed to the coaxial Broad Arrow movement which beats at a faster 28,800 VPH... so the slower the beat, the more jittery it appears (normal).
The engraving type for the serial number has changed over the years and most recently is minus the black hue present in older models.
The serial number facing a different way really doesn't mean anything other than it's a different watch produced at a different time and that may be how it's applied now.
Hope this helps a little.

Originally Posted by Tools

Your photos are worthless; I will say that you are not comparing "like" examples, except that they are both Omega products.

Are they better now?

[dimag333]

Way better, experts will chime in

steve

[Andad]

Looks ok to me.

[toolr]

Looks in order to me, my serial number is engraved in same manor. Enjoy your watch!

[samson66]

Looks legit to my eyes

[DVDA]

Update for those who care, I went to Omega Boutique today and their expert inspected it (surpisingly for free) said it's authentic. Thanks for your help everyone.

[Chester01]

Originally Posted by DVDA

Update for those who care, I went to Omega Boutique today and their expert inspected it (surpisingly for free) said it's authentic. Thanks for your help everyone.

I mean the good news is, I do not see that the speedy pro is overtly faked as much as say a Rolex. To be sure there are plenty of franken speedy’s out there but if you go through the effort of faking I mean a good fake too with hang tags, boxes, papers. If you have that ability it’s far more profitable to fake a Daytona!

[RidingDonkeys]

Originally Posted by DVDA

I bought a new Omega Speedmaster from a well known seller but I have my suspicions it might be fake. Before confronting seller (they would accept the return based on reputation) I wanted to get your thoughts as I am not knowledgable with Omega. In the photos I included my Broad Arrow to compare. One flag is the serial numbers are in different directions between Moonwatch and Broad Arrow. Other is that the serial etching is also different style. Also the bracelet seems less substantial. Lastly the chronograph movement on Moonwatch which cant be pictured seems more ticky then sweepy like it is on Broad Arrow but that could be intentional.

Thoughts?











https://imgur.com/a/vrpsZhB more pics

Originally Posted by DVDA

https://imgur.com/a/vrpsZhB more pics

Everything looks legit to me.

Sent from the voices in my head and transcribed by their drinking buddy.

[Bizcut1]

It looks good to me but if you any doubt take it to an Omega AD and have it inspected.

[DVDA]

Originally Posted by Bizcut1

It looks good to me but if you any doubt take it to an Omega AD and have it inspected.

Originally Posted by DVDA

Update for those who care, I went to Omega Boutique today and their expert inspected it (surpisingly for free) said it's authentic. Thanks for your help everyone.

[AEC]

That looks like a perfectly healthy new baby boy Speedmaster to me. Wind it, wear it, and enjoy it

[locutus49]

I'd say the seller is still reputable and you are a nervous buyer. Maybe a first time buyer.

[DVDA]

Originally Posted by locutus49

I'd say the seller is still reputable and you are a nervous buyer. Maybe a first time buyer.

2nd time, last time was Explorer from Oscar (bodybump) so he made it really easy :)

[botsy]

Nothing fake about that plus there is no fake movement that matches the dial spacing in existence.


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[mobster600]

Originally Posted by toolr

Can't tell anything from the very blurry pictures, however I have a couple thoughts on the points you are questioning. The first being the hand being more "ticky", the cal 1861 in the moonwatch beats at 21,600 VPH as opposed to the coaxial Broad Arrow movement which beats at a faster 28,800 VPH... so the slower the beat, the more jittery it appears (normal).
The engraving type for the serial number has changed over the years and most recently is minus the black hue present in older models.
The serial number facing a different way really doesn't mean anything other than it's a different watch produced at a different time and that may be how it's applied now.
Hope this helps a little.

Blurry pictures? You need your eyes checked. These are very good resolution my friend. Im actually getting an eye exam, next week.

[mobster600]

I think the watch looks legit. Nothing stands out. Did you get box and papers?

[BigHand]

Originally Posted by mobster600

I think the watch looks legit. Nothing stands out. Did you get box and papers?

OP said he verified authenticity at AD. Happy ending.

[DaninFlorida]

looks Good to me as well. as far as i know, there are no high end fakes of the moonwatch pro. the ones i have seen are way off, the sub-dial spaces are an obvious tell. one of the few watches they havent perfected IMO, which i am sure will change very soon