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Old 3 June 2020, 05:03 AM   #1
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Thinking about spending some serious $$ on a vintage Sub...

I'm considering spending some hard earned cash on a vintage 5513 Sub - more than I've ever spent on a watch before. The seller is reputable and has been in business for a long time. The price is in range with other 5513's at other vintage dealers.

Before I break open my piggy bank, are there any general guidelines I should follow? What questions should I ask the seller? Should I take the watch to an independent watch shop to have its authenticity verified?

Any/all suggestions are appreciated.
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Old 3 June 2020, 05:11 AM   #2
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If you want people to give you advice, post good photos here and indicate the asking price. There's no way that members can give you a full education in one paragraph. You say the seller is "reputable", some members might have other opinions, depending on who it is.

This site is a good start if you want to do your own research (although we don't even know what era 5513 you're considering):
http://www.5513mattedial.com
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Old 3 June 2020, 05:34 AM   #3
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Old 3 June 2020, 06:42 AM   #4
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Old 3 June 2020, 07:06 AM   #5
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Old 3 June 2020, 07:32 AM   #6
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what harry in montreal said...

Do your research so you know what is out there. 5513mattedial.com is a great place to start. Make sure you know what is important to you. You will save money if the watch has service parts but again, it depends what is important to you. Ask the seller if they can send you a video or a photo of the watch under UV light to see the tritium.
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Old 3 June 2020, 08:17 AM   #7
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I'm considering spending some hard earned cash on a vintage 5513 Sub - more than I've ever spent on a watch before. The seller is reputable and has been in business for a long time. The price is in range with other 5513's at other vintage dealers.



Before I break open my piggy bank, are there any general guidelines I should follow? What questions should I ask the seller? Should I take the watch to an independent watch shop to have its authenticity verified?



Any/all suggestions are appreciated.


If you’re in SF and thinking either Jacek at his new shop or Hqmilton, i think you will be in very safe hands. you might have a hard time finding an independent watch shop with more knowledge than some of the top vintage guys. When i bought my first vintage watch, jacek literally walked me through exactly what i need to look for and the subtle differences.


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Old 3 June 2020, 09:17 AM   #8
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Old 3 June 2020, 10:45 AM   #9
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Old 3 June 2020, 11:30 AM   #10
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Should I take the watch to an independent watch shop to have its authenticity verified?
Depends on the watch shop. You’d be surprised (or, maybe not) how many watch shops don’t share the same breadth of knowledge that the enthusiasts here on this, and other forum do. The minutiae of insert marks, dial marks, lume authenticity, crown types, service parts, bracelet codes, etc. alone could lead to a lot of confusion. Best bet is to post some pictures here, and, yes, maybe identify the seller.
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Old 4 June 2020, 01:45 AM   #11
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Thanks. I'm a NOOB so apologies for the lame question. Will follow up if / when purchase is made.
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Old 4 June 2020, 02:26 AM   #12
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Thanks. I'm a NOOB so apologies for the lame question. Will follow up if / when purchase is made.
No apologies necessary. Better to ask questions and save yourself some anguish.
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Old 4 June 2020, 02:28 AM   #13
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What everyone else said. There is tremendous knowledge on TRF. Take advantage of it before you spend your hard earned dollars. Post some pics and information. Well worth it.
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No apologies necessary. Better to ask questions and save yourself some anguish.
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Thanks. I'm a NOOB so apologies for the lame question. Will follow up if / when purchase is made.
Its great you trust your dealer, that's where to start. But you've (humbly) posted here for a reason... Do your research and post your purchase candidate here. let us know what the seller is representing the watch to be (all original, unpolished).

Continue your due diligence, don't buy without posting pics here. Good pics and a lot of them, serial numbers and macros...

This is a big purchase for you, take your time and enjoy the hunt!!
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What everyone else said. There is tremendous knowledge on TRF. Take advantage of it before you spend your hard earned dollars. Post some pics and information. Well worth it.
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Good luck OP
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Don't be afraid to ask and as has already been said there is a font of knowledge on here.
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Do your research first tho, and actually do it.
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Don’t worry about posting links to the watch, no one is going to steal it from you.

I like the stuff Jacek has had recently @ tropicalwatch.com


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Don’t worry about posting links to the watch, no one is going to steal it from you.
If it's listed by an established dealer, it's not a secret to people on this forum.
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If it's listed by an established dealer, it's not a secret to people on this forum.


That’s what I meant, I am always window shopping.


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