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Old 3 May 2021, 03:58 AM   #1
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New 2021 41mm ROC

Has any board member inquired with a boutique or AD about purchasing the new Rose Gold blue dial ROC 26239OR.OO.1220OR.01? When will these be available?

With the new version being thicker, do you think they won’t be as desirable as the 26331 version?

With no purchase history, and trying to obtain my first AP, I’m hoping I can get this at retail, but I have my doubts.
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Old 3 May 2021, 08:43 AM   #2
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Has any board member inquired with a boutique or AD about purchasing the new Rose Gold blue dial ROC 26239OR.OO.1220OR.01? When will these be available?

With the new version being thicker, do you think they won’t be as desirable as the 26331 version?

With no purchase history, and trying to obtain my first AP, I’m hoping I can get this at retail, but I have my doubts.
My ad told me he had received only 2 for this year 1 blue 1 brown and had sold both, and that he is not getting anymore for this year. So I’d assume it will,be difficult for you to get one

Personally I don’t think I would like anything thicker than thr 26320 or 26331. As for what will be more desirable is hard to say
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Old 15 May 2021, 07:23 AM   #3
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I went to AP House in HK this last sunday and they had one available to look at. No idea about availability as I wasn't interested but the piece is really nice.

The chronograph pushers feel amazing and being able to see the movement is definitely worth it compared to having a steel caseback on the 26331.

Hopefully AP will bring the movement to the 38mm size
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Old 15 May 2021, 11:08 AM   #4
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I went to AP House in HK this last sunday and they had one available to look at. No idea about availability as I wasn't interested but the piece is really nice.

The chronograph pushers feel amazing and being able to see the movement is definitely worth it compared to having a steel caseback on the 26331.

Hopefully AP will bring the movement to the 38mm size
Thanks for the information. Hopefully you will land the AP you are looking for.
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Old 15 May 2021, 11:12 AM   #5
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Hopefully AP will bring the movement to the 38mm size
The new movement is too big for the current 38mm case (outer diameter for the date wheel is bigger than inner diameter of the bezel, as far as I can tell) - will require a bit of a re-design.
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Old 15 May 2021, 11:19 AM   #6
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Has any board member inquired with a boutique or AD about purchasing the new Rose Gold blue dial ROC 26239OR.OO.1220OR.01? When will these be available?

With the new version being thicker, do you think they won’t be as desirable as the 26331 version?

With no purchase history, and trying to obtain my first AP, I’m hoping I can get this at retail, but I have my doubts.
Quote from email from boutique (I got 2 RO, ROC and ROO from them so far): "26239OR are unique and a lot of clients are waiting for this model now.". Going to be a challenge.
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Old 15 May 2021, 11:50 AM   #7
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Interesting...I've been told haven't seen any, no where on the shipment receiving list so far.
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Old 15 May 2021, 12:49 PM   #8
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26239OR will be harder to acquire per my AD. It's thicker but the new dial looks better than 26331, all the three sub-dial are the same diameter and the date window is at the middle between 4 and 5 o'clock.
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Old 16 May 2021, 10:24 AM   #9
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It's thicker but the new dial looks better than 26331, all the three sub-dial are the same diameter and the date window is at the middle between 4 and 5 o'clock.
These new updates on the dial, and the fact it’s thicker, makes me prefer this model over the 26331.

Hopefully I can land one in the future.
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Old 16 May 2021, 10:18 PM   #10
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I think we will see one soon….
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Old 16 May 2021, 11:15 PM   #11
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I finally saw a video of one from a watch dealer on IG. Dial looks so sharp with equal sized sub dials and fixed date window.
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Old 16 May 2021, 11:54 PM   #12
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I saw a video of the new model with the chocolate dial. The new sundials look really nice.
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Old 17 May 2021, 03:40 AM   #13
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Could anyone with a link to such videos post it here?
Been looking for one and couldn't find one.
Keen to see if the "outer ring" of the smaller dials are as shiny as the previous ROCs?
This is something I ended up not liking.
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Old 17 May 2021, 03:44 AM   #14
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Could anyone with a link to such videos post it here?
Been looking for one and couldn't find one.
Keen to see if the "outer ring" of the smaller dials are as shiny as the previous ROCs?
This is something I ended up not liking.
https://www.instagram.com/p/COzc0DfD...d=vrqwpsbr7fg4

They look shiny in this video
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Old 17 May 2021, 04:01 AM   #15
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Thanks man!

And you're right. Looks the same as previous ROCs... It's a shame imho. I have the blue SS ROC and it started really bothering me, looks like silver disco balls ;-).

I've been wanting to add a RG model to the AP family but still can't decide if I prefer new or old ROC. Was hoping new to not be shiny... But maybe it's less bothering for RG.
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Old 17 May 2021, 04:04 AM   #16
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Wow, it looks so gorgeous, I think both blue dial and chocolate dial are equally gorgeous.
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Old 17 May 2021, 05:31 AM   #17
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Shiny and chrome - but if going for subtlety, a 41mm RG RO is probably not the right path in any case.

In the wild, the brown dial looks almost black - very nice. Makes it more difficult to pick between brown and blue, if the chance comes.
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Old 17 May 2021, 06:04 AM   #18
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Shiny and chrome - but if going for subtlety, a 41mm RG RO is probably not the right path in any case.
Hahaha. That's true. A RG ROC will never be stealthy!! :)
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Thanks man!

And you're right. Looks the same as previous ROCs... It's a shame imho. I have the blue SS ROC and it started really bothering me, looks like silver disco balls ;-).

I've been wanting to add a RG model to the AP family but still can't decide if I prefer new or old ROC. Was hoping new to not be shiny... But maybe it's less bothering for RG.

What you need is the all blue 26320st!
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Shiny and chrome - but if going for subtlety, a 41mm RG RO is probably not the right path in any case.

In the wild, the brown dial looks almost black - very nice. Makes it more difficult to pick between brown and blue, if the chance comes.
What do you mean you don’t think the gold ROC is subtle? Lol.
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Old 17 May 2021, 10:08 PM   #21
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Would be very hard to get without prior purchase history. Likely to be a bundle piece
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Old 20 May 2021, 11:27 PM   #22
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Most likely would be a hard to get piece. Spoke with my AP SA and he said might be years, but obviously if you purchase less desirable pieces may speed up the process.
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Old 21 May 2021, 07:28 AM   #23
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What you need is the all blue 26320st!
You might be right sir...

And as to the new 41m ROC, I saw one in the flesh today at an AP boutique and I have made my decision...

...and I prefer the older model.

It's close and the new one is gorgeous don't get me wrong. Plus the rear view is just amazing. However even if much better looking her new "ass" is thicker and it spoils the relative "thinness" of this watch (being a chrono) which remains one of its highlight for me. I don't like a lot the date window in the old ROC but frankly I don't feel the new one is million miles better. The cutting off in the "railroad" feels a bit improvised and finally I found the 3 and 9am subdials pushed too far right and left.
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You might be right sir...

And as to the new 41m ROC, I saw one in the flesh today at an AP boutique and I have made my decision...

...and I prefer the older model.

It's close and the new one is gorgeous don't get me wrong. Plus the rear view is just amazing. However even if much better looking her new "ass" is thicker and it spoils the relative "thinness" of this watch (being a chrono) which remains one of its highlight for me. I don't like a lot the date window in the old ROC but frankly I don't feel the new one is million miles better. The cutting off in the "railroad" feels a bit improvised and finally I found the 3 and 9am subdials pushed too far right and left.
Can you explain what you mean by the cut off railroad? Or maybe don’t say anything because once I see it I won’t be able to UN-see it. Lol.
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Can you explain what you mean by the cut off railroad? Or maybe don’t say anything because once I see it I won’t be able to UN-see it. Lol.
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I think this is what he meant by cutting off the railroad. You can see the edge of the date window protruding out towards the seconds ring, unlike the 15500. I don’t understand why it’s this way though when the 15500 and the CODEs are 41mm.

Though I must admit I like that it protrudes. Gives it a bit of a unique character.
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I think this is what he meant by cutting off the railroad. You can see the edge of the date window protruding out towards the seconds ring, unlike the 15500. I don’t understand why it’s this way though when the 15500 and the CODEs are 41mm.

Though I must admit I like that it protrudes. Gives it a bit of a unique character.
I think it looks more OK since the dial and railroad tracks are all the same color. How will it look on a Panda?
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You might be right sir...

And as to the new 41m ROC, I saw one in the flesh today at an AP boutique and I have made my decision...

...and I prefer the older model.

It's close and the new one is gorgeous don't get me wrong. Plus the rear view is just amazing. However even if much better looking her new "ass" is thicker and it spoils the relative "thinness" of this watch (being a chrono) which remains one of its highlight for me. I don't like a lot the date window in the old ROC but frankly I don't feel the new one is million miles better. The cutting off in the "railroad" feels a bit improvised and finally I found the 3 and 9am subdials pushed too far right and left.
I agree with this 100%
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I think this is what he meant by cutting off the railroad. You can see the edge of the date window protruding out towards the seconds ring, unlike the 15500. I don’t understand why it’s this way though when the 15500 and the CODEs are 41mm.

Though I must admit I like that it protrudes. Gives it a bit of a unique character.
I think neither the 26331 nor the 26393 movement are quite the right size for the 41mm case. A bit puzzling in the case of the 26393, as they surely knew it was going to go into the ROC when designing it. Still, 26393OR will probably go on position 3 of my wishlist, depending on what the next batch of novelties looks like.
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You might be right sir...

And as to the new 41m ROC, I saw one in the flesh today at an AP boutique and I have made my decision...

...and I prefer the older model.

It's close and the new one is gorgeous don't get me wrong. Plus the rear view is just amazing. However even if much better looking her new "ass" is thicker and it spoils the relative "thinness" of this watch (being a chrono) which remains one of its highlight for me. I don't like a lot the date window in the old ROC but frankly I don't feel the new one is million miles better. The cutting off in the "railroad" feels a bit improvised and finally I found the 3 and 9am subdials pushed too far right and left.
Exactly my thoughts on the subdials as well! Now I am unable to unsee the cut railroad :(
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What is funny is that: When AP launch 26331 rose gold I read a lot of quotes about how bad look that mini counter. Also other TRF was unhappy because the date window was not center between 4 and wife. I read other quotes who say the movement are not in house and are too small for the watch.
Now when new ROC have in-house movement, when counters are equal and date are centered between 4 and 5……many TRF like more previous model because of the small counter…… ))))
I have the new ROC and have and the old one….. new model it’s better in any way.
Yes the date are on the edge of dial but new movement are bigger…..
I think AP must personalize all the watch for customers preference……)))
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