Stolen AP - please be on the lookout >>>>

[AshAP]

Originally Posted by tyler1980

going to Portugal next Saturday. Ill let you know. My watches go where i go.

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[Soly20]

I'm sorry to hear that. I also, got my watch stolen from the my hotel room in Paris back in May.

[yoast]

Originally Posted by rootbeer7

OP so sorry to hear. Friends, these stories appear daily because TRF comes up on Google and is a good place to post stolen watches. Europe is a big place and daily millions of high-end watches are worn and not stolen.

This.


I am European, and this summer, I have been to Paris, Barcelona, Brussels, Amsterdam and Zurich wearing my pp 5712 and I have never felt unsafe or have had anything happen to me.
Just keep your eyes open and avoid overly touristy or dodgy places.
Same applies everywhere in the world.

As another member said, "my watch goes where I go." What is the point of having a nice watch if you can't wear it outside of your house?

[rootbeer7]

Originally Posted by yoast

This.


I am European, and this summer, I have been to Paris, Barcelona, Brussels, Amsterdam and Zurich wearing my pp 5712 and I have never felt unsafe or have had anything happen to me.
Just keep your eyes open and avoid overly touristy or dodgy places.
Same applies everywhere in the world.

As another member said, "my watch goes where I go." What is the point of having a nice watch if you can't wear it outside of your house?

Also, most of these stolen posts are new members who've found trf for the sole purpose of helping locate a stolen watch.

[SearChart]

Very sorry to hear, hopefully you'll get it back soon!

[dmash]

Originally Posted by rootbeer7

OP so sorry to hear. Friends, these stories appear daily because TRF comes up on Google and is a good place to post stolen watches. Europe is a big place and daily millions of high-end watches are worn and not stolen.

Yeah, agree with this. Don't be so close minded gentleman. Europe's population as a whole is more than double that of America, stuff happens, unfortunately. It's not the wild west in Europe, it's just the way the world is.

A quick google can show recent annual statistics that there were approximately 350,000 robberies and 2 MILLION home burglaries reported in the US . Are you only going to keep your watch in a bank vault?





OP sorry for your loss.

[andresoler1]

So sorry to hear about this. Specially after what happened last night in Barcelona. I do hope you get it back


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[Tomas Eriksson]

Sorry to hear about the loss. A few friends of mine actually got jumped by a gang in barcelona in july as well. The were leaving a bar at night and one of them got a ROO Panda janked off his wrist by pure force.

Here in Sweden those kind of robberies are almost unheard of. So definitely not a widespread Europe thing...

[Nad]

Originally Posted by yoast

So sorry to hear this. I hope you are ok.

Did this occur at a central part of town?

It happened in the Old Town around the Mercato.

[GB-man]

Originally Posted by dmash

Yeah, agree with this. Don't be so close minded gentleman. Europe's population as a whole is more than double that of America, stuff happens, unfortunately. It's not the wild west in Europe, it's just the way the world is.

A quick google can show recent annual statistics that there were approximately 350,000 robberies and 2 MILLION home burglaries reported in the US . Are you only going to keep your watch in a bank vault?





OP sorry for your loss.

I agree unfortunately there seems to be organized crime targeting high end watches in some European metros, similar to certain cities in South America. Probably headed here next

[Nad]

Originally Posted by 7sins

Is this true of Paris and Nice? I am heading to France for the first time ever next moth and was going to bring my AP Diver as I am heading to Geneva too. Now I am having second thoughts?

Although I suppose this happens in NYC and LA in the bad parts of town, is this rampant even in the nicer areas?

I would be extremely vigilant in Paris and Nice and try to keep the watch discreetly under your sleeve cuff.

Most of Geneva should be OK, but again be aware if you are around the main train station or Paquis area.

Probably of bigger concern than a physical assault are the pickpockets so keeps your valuables close!!!!

Bon Voyage!

[Nad]

Originally Posted by Soly20

I'm sorry to hear that. I also, got my watch stolen from the my hotel room in Paris back in May.

From the hotel room????

Was it in the room safe or left out on the night table?

Sorry to hear this.

[AK797]

Originally Posted by GB-man

I agree unfortunately there seems to be organized crime targeting high end watches in some European metros, similar to certain cities in South America. Probably headed here next

Plus with the rise of social media more amateur thieves can see what coveted high end watches other than Rolex look like, so I would be extra alert with other brands as well now. That Kardashian robbery was an indicator of the growing dangers, such as posting holiday pics while you are still on holiday, get home first and tell people you are home and then post.

[conkers]

Sorry to hear. But glad you are safe.

[benlee]

Sorry for your loss. Have you reported to AP and let them know the watch has been stolen?

It seems that AP is gaining an un-welcomed high profile being target by criminals.

[christianj]

Wow! So sorry to hear but glad you are ok. Barcelona has always been a hotbed for petty theft but looks like crimes are escalating.

I always travel with a nice watch but I do have to say that I think about where I am going. If headed to Germany or Austria I have no problems taking my PP 5711 or one of my AP's but when we did Paris and Barcelona I took a nice timepiece but one I could survive without. Same can apply in most large US cities.

[Nad]

Originally Posted by benlee

Sorry for your loss. Have you reported to AP and let them know the watch has been stolen?

It seems that AP is gaining an un-welcomed high profile being target by criminals.

AP Iberia was notified the following day and the information went global after aabout a week.

[P2725TMB]

Originally Posted by AshAP

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Bear in mind Tyler is about 6' 5"!

[m32]

So sorry to hear this happened Nad. The main thing is you're ok and safe but this sucks big time! Here's hoping your AP will be recovered

Edwin

[SpeedyTuomas]

Originally Posted by 7sins

Is this true of Paris and Nice? I am heading to France for the first time ever next moth and was going to bring my AP Diver as I am heading to Geneva too. Now I am having second thoughts?

Although I suppose this happens in NYC and LA in the bad parts of town, is this rampant even in the nicer areas?

Had no problems in Nice with Patek.

However did not enjoy Barcelona, too many shady people.

[Superburrito]

Terrible news but glad you are ok!

[bayerische]

LOL, sounds like Europe is a war zone. Been all over with expensive watches. Never a problem.

[Nad]

That was my only AP so now the hunt is on for the next one.

Always hopeful that the Barto may turn up one day (fingers crossed)

[SC11]

Originally Posted by P2725TMB

Bear in mind Tyler is about 6' 5"!

Our bodyguard on the London GTG

[2nastie]

Just reminded me of this...

[Nad]

Originally Posted by 2nastie

Just reminded me of this...

[KBM]

This truly sucks. Glad you're ok.

[SMD]

Originally Posted by rootbeer7

Also, most of these stolen posts are new members who've found trf for the sole purpose of helping locate a stolen watch.

And your point is? That somebody who doesn't live in an internet chat room lost something very valuable and wanted to warn people not to buy something that could be stolen? Isn't that a public service to TRF as well as maybe in a very small way helping him (though unlikely).

[rootbeer7]

Originally Posted by SMD

And your point is? That somebody who doesn't live in an internet chat room lost something very valuable and wanted to warn people not to buy something that could be stolen? Isn't that a public service to TRF as well as maybe in a very small way helping him (though unlikely).

Read my previous post. I'm saying that because TRF offers the chance to post stolen watches, more have appeared recently, as opposed to the ridiculous notion that Europe is some kind of war-zone. In fact the mods might consider a new section for these posts.

[tyler1980]

Originally Posted by rootbeer7

Read my previous post. I'm saying that because TRF offers the chance to post stolen watches, more have appeared recently, as opposed to the ridiculous notion that Europe is some kind of war-zone. In fact the mods might consider a new section for these posts.

access to more information leads to the notion that crime is getting worse as you see things you would not otherwise. A perfect example is in the day of 24 hour news that reports all kinds of crime on a 24 hour loop, people think that overall crime levels are going up. A recent poll found 70+ percent of americans thought crime was worse today than 20 years ago. The statistics show that crime is actually down in a huge way, especially violent crime from 20 years ago.

perception and reality don't always match up