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Tz1983 · 12 March 2018, 07:40 AM

Patek Lovers,

I was reading the thread on 5712 vs the pilot and it got me thinking...

The 5711 has appreciated to the point where I can see a dealer getting close to doing a one for one swap (maybe a little out of pocket for the 12)

The 5711 is a special piece but I just can’t fathom why one wouldn’t want to take advantage of this references’
spike.

What do you guys think?

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AshAP · 12 March 2018, 07:43 AM

I prefer the 5711. Never been a fan of the 5712 dial.

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rolex_addict · 12 March 2018, 08:01 AM

This is the first I see a thread comparing those 2 models lol

JayG · 12 March 2018, 08:08 AM

5711 classic icon.

maybe you can consider the 5712r to scratch that itch

Russell996 · 12 March 2018, 08:40 AM

https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=579356

We don’t need another thread.

GB-man · 12 March 2018, 08:49 AM

You should have cash your way on 5711 to 5712 trade.

codecow · 12 March 2018, 10:37 AM

5712 is my choice.

goog53 · 12 March 2018, 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by codecow

5712 is my choice.

AK797 · 12 March 2018, 01:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GB-man

You should have cash your way on 5711 to 5712 trade.

5711 has moved up over 5712 now in EU...

GB-man · 12 March 2018, 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by AK797

5711 has moved up over 5712 now in EU...

That’s what I am saying Neil! Personally I’d rather have the 12 or 11R but 11A is on fire.

Andrés G · 12 March 2018, 02:27 PM

I prefer the 5711

mps354 · 12 March 2018, 02:53 PM

I prefer the 5711

tyler1980 · 12 March 2018, 03:46 PM

id do that swap. IMO the 5712 is harder to get tired of as the dial is so much more interesting. If you are thinking of doing it, then its only a matter of time at this point, so do it while the market for the 5711 is at a high, which is now.

HL65 · 12 March 2018, 07:10 PM

Prefer 5711 as well so all depends on what you want and like more!

nyc2la · 13 March 2018, 06:48 AM

5712/1a --- FTW

locutus49 · 13 March 2018, 06:50 AM

5711 for the symmetry.

Dlanz · 13 March 2018, 08:46 AM

5711 any day

Tz1983 · 13 March 2018, 09:03 AM

Ah sorry missed the last thread posing this question. My bad. I love the split decisions between the Patek faithful. Just goes to show how much these references mean to people. I would LOVE to trade to the 5711r but it just wouldn’t fly for business attire, way too flashy in solid gold. Does anyone know the retail price of 5712 at the moment? Does it trade well over that mark like the 5711. Reading posts of 20% increases now

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Silver Bullet · 14 March 2018, 11:38 AM

I probably voted 5711, and there was a time (a year ago?) when I tried to like the 5712 so much (because it seemed more attainable) and couldn’t. Strangely enough, I think I now prefer the 5712.

SL BRABUS · 14 March 2018, 12:41 PM

5711.....

onmyhand · 14 March 2018, 12:49 PM

I have both but I prefer the 5711. It has a longer lasting look.

Ichiran · 14 March 2018, 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by onmyhand

I have both but I prefer the 5711. It has a longer lasting look.

5711/1a or 5711P?

Carry The Interest · 14 March 2018, 01:50 PM

I love the "controlled chaos" of the 5712, I really do. But if I had to pick one I'd still take the 5711 over it. "Less is more" -- I can't think of a better watch example than comparing these two models.

onmyhand · 14 March 2018, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Ichiran

5711/1a or 5711P?

Hi Ichiran. Ha ha......I have both in blues and like them for their basic designs.

kultschar · 15 March 2018, 01:33 AM

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Originally Posted by AK797

5711 has moved up over 5712 now in EU...

I must admit I initially loved 5711, then 5712, back to 5711 which I then purchased!! I love it but still think about the 5712

I did wonder how easy it would be to swap for a mint 5712 but presumed I would have to add cash

kilyung · 15 March 2018, 03:00 AM

I prefer the 5711

sensui · 15 March 2018, 03:32 AM

I'll take what I can get....no losers between the 2 but I think the 5711 has the edge in the timeless design.

locutus49 · 15 March 2018, 03:50 AM

I prefer the simplicity of the dial of the 5711.

I noticed in the for sale section of this forum that a yellow gold 5711 is going for roughly 58K USD, about the same price as some SS 5711's. Amazing.

AK797 · 15 March 2018, 04:39 AM

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Originally Posted by kultschar

I must admit I initially loved 5711, then 5712, back to 5711 which I then purchased!! I love it but still think about the 5712

I did wonder how easy it would be to swap for a mint 5712 but presumed I would have to add cash

Momentum has been stronger on the 5711 so it was always going to get close in price despite this forum's best efforts to support the 5712. With the 5164, these two PPs were largely in their simpler brother's shadow until recently.

I think dealer's are bidding much lower than they are asking so you'll probably need to add cash anyway.

Ichiran · 15 March 2018, 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by onmyhand

Hi Ichiran. Ha ha......I have both in blues and like them for their basic designs.

Sorry for my endless questions in your 5711P. I really love that watch and there are so few videos out there, and I do not know of anyone who owns one.

Patek-Philippe-1.jpg

With respect to the 5711P cork box, are you able to describe the feel of that surface? It sure looks smooth in the pic. How does it smell? Is it light or heavy?

Thanks in advance for your answers

12 March 2018, 07:40 AM	#1
Tz1983 "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: NYC Posts: 86	5711 vs 5712 Patek Lovers, I was reading the thread on 5712 vs the pilot and it got me thinking... The 5711 has appreciated to the point where I can see a dealer getting close to doing a one for one swap (maybe a little out of pocket for the 12) The 5711 is a special piece but I just can’t fathom why one wouldn’t want to take advantage of this references’ spike. What do you guys think? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

12 March 2018, 08:49 AM	#6
GB-man 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: USA Watch: addiction issues Posts: 36,864	You should have cash your way on 5711 to 5712 trade. __________________

12 March 2018, 03:46 PM	#13
tyler1980 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Houston Posts: 17,622	id do that swap. IMO the 5712 is harder to get tired of as the dial is so much more interesting. If you are thinking of doing it, then its only a matter of time at this point, so do it while the market for the 5711 is at a high, which is now. __________________ Instagram: tyler.watches current collection: Patek 5164A, Patek 5524G, Rolex Platinum Daytona 116506, Rolex Sea Dweller 43 126600, Rolex GMT II 116710LN, AP 15400ST (silver), Panerai 913, Omega Speedmaster moonwatch, Tudor Black Bay (Harrods Edition)

12 March 2018, 07:10 PM	#14
HL65 TRF Moderator & 2024 DATE-JUST41 Patron Join Date: Dec 2007 Real Name: Ken Location: SW Florida Watch: One on my wrist. Posts: 63,401	Prefer 5711 as well so all depends on what you want and like more! __________________ *SPEM SUCCESSUS ALIT*

13 March 2018, 06:48 AM	#15
nyc2la "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Real Name: Stephen Location: Beach Watch: 16660 Posts: 9,176	5712/1a --- FTW __________________ "Nothing great was ever achieved without enthusiasm." --- RWE

12 March 2018, 07:43 AM	#2
AshAP "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Real Name: Ash Location: UK Watch: AP Royal Oak Posts: 4,544	I prefer the 5711. Never been a fan of the 5712 dial. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

12 March 2018, 08:01 AM	#3
rolex_addict "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: . Posts: 831	This is the first I see a thread comparing those 2 models lol

12 March 2018, 08:08 AM	#4
JayG "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2017 Location: US Watch: FP Journe CB/ 5711 Posts: 345	5711 classic icon. maybe you can consider the 5712r to scratch that itch

12 March 2018, 08:40 AM	#5
Russell996 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: May 2016 Location: UK Posts: 4,180	https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=579356 We don’t need another thread.

12 March 2018, 10:37 AM	#7
codecow "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Real Name: Louis Location: Bay Area, CA Watch: PP 5131R Posts: 4,786	5712 is my choice.

12 March 2018, 02:27 PM	#11
Andrés G "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Guatemala Posts: 3,391	I prefer the 5711

12 March 2018, 02:53 PM	#12
mps354 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Real Name: Mike Location: CT Posts: 8,972	I prefer the 5711

13 March 2018, 06:50 AM	#16
locutus49 Banned Join Date: May 2014 Real Name: John Location: La Jolla, CA Watch: Platona Posts: 12,194	5711 for the symmetry.

13 March 2018, 09:03 AM	#18
Tz1983 "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: NYC Posts: 86	Ah sorry missed the last thread posing this question. My bad. I love the split decisions between the Patek faithful. Just goes to show how much these references mean to people. I would LOVE to trade to the 5711r but it just wouldn’t fly for business attire, way too flashy in solid gold. Does anyone know the retail price of 5712 at the moment? Does it trade well over that mark like the 5711. Reading posts of 20% increases now Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

14 March 2018, 11:38 AM	#19
Silver Bullet "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: Earth Watch: 5711 Posts: 262	I probably voted 5711, and there was a time (a year ago?) when I tried to like the 5712 so much (because it seemed more attainable) and couldn’t. Strangely enough, I think I now prefer the 5712.

14 March 2018, 12:41 PM	#20
SL BRABUS "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: U.S.A Watch: Only Rolex & Patek Posts: 3,345	5711..... __________________ Rolex Forum: Mainly Rolex & Benz pictures...!!! Click the above link to join the club...^^^... "SL BRABUS" aka BenzWorld Undercover Moderator

14 March 2018, 12:49 PM	#21
onmyhand "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: singapore Watch: patek Posts: 226	I have both but I prefer the 5711. It has a longer lasting look.

14 March 2018, 01:50 PM	#23
Carry The Interest "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2018 Location: LA Watch: RLX, ALS Posts: 3,410	I love the "controlled chaos" of the 5712, I really do. But if I had to pick one I'd still take the 5711 over it. "Less is more" -- I can't think of a better watch example than comparing these two models.

15 March 2018, 03:00 AM	#26
kilyung 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Cave Watch: Sundial Posts: 33,870	I prefer the 5711

15 March 2018, 03:32 AM	#27
sensui 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 12,356	I'll take what I can get....no losers between the 2 but I think the 5711 has the edge in the timeless design.

15 March 2018, 03:50 AM	#28
locutus49 Banned Join Date: May 2014 Real Name: John Location: La Jolla, CA Watch: Platona Posts: 12,194	I prefer the simplicity of the dial of the 5711. I noticed in the for sale section of this forum that a yellow gold 5711 is going for roughly 58K USD, about the same price as some SS 5711's. Amazing.

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