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Old 12 January 2019, 08:44 AM   #31
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I’m going to laugh my a** off if they designed an in house chrono with a 430 date lol it seems they have. I know I’m a broken record but I really loathe them.
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Old 12 January 2019, 09:43 AM   #32
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Old 12 January 2019, 11:09 AM   #33
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I’m going to laugh my a** off if they designed an in house chrono with a 430 date lol it seems they have. I know I’m a broken record but I really loathe them.
Date position, Tom, isn’t goverened by movement, but dial window location.
If they wanted to, they could put it at 6, then print the date wheel such that the numbers were the correct orientation for that opening.
As it is, the printing is the generic 3 o’clock type, which means a 4:30 window works fine when worn on the left wrist.
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Old 12 January 2019, 11:22 AM   #34
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A few big boys are coming out as well in the new line

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Old 12 January 2019, 11:37 AM   #35
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Are we aware of the case dimensions?


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Old 12 January 2019, 12:06 PM   #36
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hate hate hate hate

looks like generic Chinese watches you find on eBay



long live RoyalOak
First impression, I like it! Esp the RG in black dial. The case looks intricate and well finished. I may even get one. But will reserve final judgement until I see / handle one.

Honestly don’t see the resemblence to chinese ebay pieces.
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Old 12 January 2019, 01:06 PM   #37
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A few big boys are coming out as well in the new line

On first look, I really like what I'm seeing.
Can't wait for the reveal
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Old 12 January 2019, 01:11 PM   #38
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A few big boys are coming out as well in the new line





Where did these photos come from? I hadn’t seen these before!
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Old 12 January 2019, 01:18 PM   #39
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Not a fan. Glad the economy is strong enough for folks to spend 30k on these.
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Old 12 January 2019, 02:07 PM   #40
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Seems like everyone wants AP to stick to Royal Oaks? Something new may be interesting, as long as they don’t go ‘Full VC” of course.
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Old 12 January 2019, 05:18 PM   #41
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The high dollar ones look better to the eye. Still who is going to buy these?
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Old 12 January 2019, 05:20 PM   #42
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Date position, Tom, isn’t goverened by movement, but dial window location.
If they wanted to, they could put it at 6, then print the date wheel such that the numbers were the correct orientation for that opening.
As it is, the printing is the generic 3 o’clock type, which means a 4:30 window works fine when worn on the left wrist.
Good point, I guess they must like the look. I don’t understand the need for a date. Rolex has no trouble selling Daytona’s without it.
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Old 12 January 2019, 06:34 PM   #43
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hate hate hate hate

looks like generic Chinese watches you find on eBay



long live RoyalOak
I'm going to wait for the high res photos/videos/take a look physically before making a judgement.

Honestly, if you want a dress watch these are some pretty good options. Photos are flat, but from the components used (rehaut, curved saphhire) I think the watches are much 3D and will look much better in real life than on a 2d image. A bit like the Royal Oak Offshore which is hard to capture all the angles in a photo.
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Old 12 January 2019, 07:33 PM   #44
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My first impression ist....not bad. I think it´s very hard for AP to launch a new line besides AP because for the most people AP is RO.
For me the higher prices once are more desireable maybe due to the lack of the date window.
It might have been a good idea to give up the date for that line but I will make final decision when I took a look at them at the AD.
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Old 12 January 2019, 09:47 PM   #45
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ugly, looks like a cheap diesel watch.
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Old 12 January 2019, 10:18 PM   #46
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Here is the Hodinkee video

https://youtu.be/9O47UlEm74c

AP website says the reveal is in 6 hours
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Old 12 January 2019, 10:37 PM   #47
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While I can respect any brand that wants to bring something new and innovate, I am not sold on this piece. They did great updating the movement; increasing power reserve, beat rate, etc but the case and look is a huge miss. It looks like a fashion watch (an awkward love child between Daniel Wellington and MVMT) that I would see in the glass while walking through Macy's. Interesting to hear in the video that they think this reference could be 25% of their global quantity.

It is going to be interesting to see in person but on first impressions, I say decent update on the movement with a failure in design.
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Old 12 January 2019, 10:40 PM   #48
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I have read some reviews and it is an interesting watch if you are an AP fan and want a watch like this. Does not work for me and the price point will make it limited as there are a lot of options for the money they are charging.
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Old 12 January 2019, 11:26 PM   #49
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I think they’re great. The case design details are beyond the ability of most other brands and I think the dials are being underestimated. I’ll bet most of the negative commentary goes down if they produce in steel and suddenly some of the haters can reach the price points.


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Old 12 January 2019, 11:33 PM   #50
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I like the case, it's well detailed, creative and unique. However the dial through pictures of course is as one stated unremarkable. Of course, I will reserve final judgement once I have the opportunity to actually see and try one on.
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Old 13 January 2019, 01:07 AM   #51
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I think they’re great. The case design details are beyond the ability of most other brands and I think the dials are being underestimated. I’ll bet most of the negative commentary goes down if they produce in steel and suddenly some of the haters can reach the price points.


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Old 13 January 2019, 01:39 AM   #52
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Iwc or jlc look to them
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Old 13 January 2019, 01:51 AM   #53
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Nice legs. Shame about the face.
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Old 13 January 2019, 02:24 AM   #54
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Wow. Just...wow.
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Old 13 January 2019, 08:21 PM   #55
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Now that the cat is out of the bag, everyone may draw their own conclusions. Mine looks like this:

Case = high quality, interesting, a feast for the eyes from every angle. Solid and elaborately crafted in AP style

Materials: solid and noble, no experiments with any pseudomaterials

Dial = very elaborate and in all details of the highest quality

Hands = in the style of the long tradition of the house (before the Royal Oak)

Glass = an attraction that I have never experienced in such a way

Clockwork = optically a feast for the eyes and technically probably at the highest level

Bracelets = at least in the pictures, the leather and the workmanship seems to be excellent

Buckle = solid and noble. Haptics of an AP

Size = the right size, given the case shape and orientation, so that the watch sits at each wrist and has the appropriate presence

It's not a Royal Oak - and it shouldn't be.
It is an alternative - and a very successful one.
When I put myself in the position of AP, I can't think of what could have been done better. I personally think the watch is very successful and look forward to future versions in steel and with dials that look more futuristic.

Everyone will make their own judgement. The Royal Oak also had its ups and downs. I bought my first one (chronograph in steel) just over 20 years ago. At a time when it was demanded as today. The comeback of the ingenious Genta design was only a few years ago.

So I am confident that the watch will meet all internal expectations. It will certainly be produced in smaller quantities than it is in demand. This also guarantees the buyer a pleasing retention of value.


Now everything is a matter of taste. Nothing more and nothing less.


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Old 13 January 2019, 08:30 PM   #56
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I think we are all up in arms for a bit of nothing really. Looking back at it after sleeping on it, out of the 6 releases on 1 version the time/date only is the one that pisses everybody off.

The rest, case, bracelet, and materials are perfectly fine.
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Old 13 January 2019, 10:40 PM   #57
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I think we are all up in arms for a bit of nothing really. Looking back at it after sleeping on it, out of the 6 releases on 1 version the time/date only is the one that pisses everybody off.

The rest, case, bracelet, and materials are perfectly fine.
We are always ultra critical of any new release, even the second coming D500 had detractors, but once people see them in the flesh and we actually have incomings, everyone becomes far more friendly and respectful.
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Old 13 January 2019, 10:42 PM   #58
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I like the chrono but not for the price.
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