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Old 13 January 2019, 05:19 AM   #61
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My rating:

Case height = A

Case flanks = A+

Crystal = B+

Movement = B+

Dial = D-

Case size = C



However and unfortunately, dial is pretty important. Would have loved no-date, perhaps brueget numerals versus the panerai like enlarged 12, 3 , 6, 9. Perhaps it will grow on me.



My favorite is the simple 3 hander white dial rose gold.


I’m sorry. It’s like they hired the Armani Exchange watch department for this and had the JLC Polaris design team consult for five minutes.

This won’t be displacing the Royal Oak like anytime soon.


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Old 13 January 2019, 05:28 AM   #62
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looks like a cheap diesel watch
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Old 13 January 2019, 05:29 AM   #63
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Design by committee.

Spent all their time sweating the details and forgot to designs the dials.
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Old 13 January 2019, 05:32 AM   #64
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I was holding off on the ROC to see what the new line will look like. I’m not a big fan from the photos. I wonder if and when the ROC will get the new movement??
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Old 13 January 2019, 05:40 AM   #65
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note to ceo: ditch this model lineup, take the movement and insert across entire RO models, and move on.

avoid bleeding out the brand reputation, especially after such an uptick in 2018.
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Old 13 January 2019, 05:55 AM   #66
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Its aweful, even worse than the VC56 and who knew that was possible?
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Old 13 January 2019, 06:03 AM   #67
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I have to admit that I was looking forward to the full reveal and see what AP had in this new line. Now that I've seen it, at least in press release photos and videos, it doesn't do anything for me.

One thing I don't think has been mentioned yet in this thread: Is anyone else surprised by such a low WR at 30m? Not a huge deal in the real world but with all the R and D that went into the new chrono, why so low?
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Old 13 January 2019, 06:14 AM   #68
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I was holding off on the ROC to see what the new line will look like. I’m not a big fan from the photos. I wonder if and when the ROC will get the new movement??


I wonder the same as well as I picked up a ROC recently. Curious to see the price if they decide to put in the new movement onto the 26331.
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Old 13 January 2019, 06:35 AM   #69
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The live pics coming out look pretty good in my opinion

https://live.hodinkee.com/e/sihh-201...db&type=videos
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Old 13 January 2019, 06:54 AM   #70
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I love them. The PC sis one of the most beautiful watches I’ve ever seen.
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Old 13 January 2019, 07:01 AM   #71
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I do like the Perpetual Calender but who is going to buy this at 74k USD? If they don't sell well and they discount it to 40-50-60k I think there are better options out there.
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Old 13 January 2019, 07:12 AM   #72
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These will sell at a staggering discount on the secondary market. They basically made the exact watch that nobody wants anymore. The casual buyer has a plethora of options in this style that look so much better. Lange? JLC? Longines even.
Seems only the AP boutiques will sell it for now. So grey's will be limited. In that case AP could get in a pickle, they could stuck with these watches that they couldn't sell to anyone..
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Old 13 January 2019, 07:14 AM   #73
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“Our suppliers thought we are crazy..”

Suppliers were spot on.
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Old 13 January 2019, 07:29 AM   #74
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I can't see myself spending almost 27k for the most basic model in this range. Give me a used Lange 1 or similar.
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Old 13 January 2019, 07:43 AM   #75
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I‘m afraid this new line launch will cut the production for RO, ROC and ROO.
This mean looooong waiting list.
About the new line I think I need to see it but maybe give a new interpretacion for classic watch and make the classic more loved by younger!
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Old 13 January 2019, 08:23 AM   #76
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Hrm...will reserve judgement until I see one in person. Not a big fan of the dial.

That said, if I’m going for a dressier watch, I would probably opt for a Lange 1815 Chrono instead.



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Old 13 January 2019, 08:35 AM   #77
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I‘m afraid this new line launch will cut the production for RO, ROC and ROO.
This mean looooong waiting list.
About the new line I think I need to see it but maybe give a new interpretacion for classic watch and make the classic more loved by younger!


This could potentially drives up the price of AP RO, ROC, and ROO on the secondary market of course.
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Old 13 January 2019, 09:15 AM   #78
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Horrid series name and completely unappealing dial design
100% and the design is so bad it really is not worth writing more. Sad AP can't design better. Good luck selling this without APs .....
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Old 13 January 2019, 09:16 AM   #79
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I can't see myself spending almost 27k for the most basic model in this range. Give me a used Lange 1 or similar.
You can hunt and buy a used lange and a JLC polaris!!!
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Old 13 January 2019, 09:18 AM   #80
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My loaner is the base 4 engine and to me feels heavy and I almost want to say slow haha .. car is beautiful though and drives nice otherwise.. can definitely see getting one later but would likely need at least the 4S engine
So 4S is the twin-scroll turbo?

Well, I have an Audi S4...fast enough for me (now) with the single turbo. Porsche, one day.
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Old 13 January 2019, 10:50 AM   #81
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The live pics coming out look pretty good in my opinion

https://live.hodinkee.com/e/sihh-201...db&type=videos
The case is more fully-revealed and yes...it looks beautiful. The lugs are nice as well IMO.

However, no pics can change the font selection and dial design.
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Old 13 January 2019, 11:02 AM   #82
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) I really like the case design !
) Large dial diameter with small bezel is fantastic !

) The chapter around the dial perimeter needs to be eliminated !




) I would pay $6k max ........
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Old 13 January 2019, 11:14 AM   #83
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Old 13 January 2019, 11:19 AM   #84
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I bet Daniel Wellington is probably sending a big bouquet of flowers and a thank you note to AP for the great ad campaign they put together for the DW brand.
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Old 13 January 2019, 11:40 AM   #85
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OMG the dials are hideous

see teenagers with their jeans hanging off there arse wearing stuff like that
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Old 13 January 2019, 01:38 PM   #86
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I can't see myself spending almost 27k for the most basic model in this range. Give me a used Lange 1 or similar.


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Old 13 January 2019, 01:57 PM   #87
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Love the case and the movements.

Hate the name, size and dials.

The basics are there, maybe a new dial will help.

Time only looks like a dressed up Polaris and chrono like a Micheal Kors.

In the mean time can I get a 39mm ROC with the new movement?
Agree. The display back and movement look great. If they flipped the watch over and made it a skeleton, I’d be a buyer
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Old 13 January 2019, 02:04 PM   #88
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Old 13 January 2019, 02:06 PM   #89
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dial looks extremely boring, really like a michael koors watch
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Old 13 January 2019, 02:14 PM   #90
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Out of interest, why do you rate the movement B+.

Yep, wondering that, too.
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