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4 August 2011, 03:50 AM | #61 |
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sorry, Marilyn Monroe is the forever alpha blonde.:) btw, vintage vs contemporary, would you rather spend an evening with Raquel & Marilyn or Sarah Jessica Parker. just mho.
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No offense intended, Paul, but you must be a marketing guys dream-- everytime they slap "new and improved" on a product, do you run out to buy it? IMO, Rolex makes worthwhile but very incremental changes to the designs. The accumulation of upgrades begins to add up, but the typical upgrade is a small change compared to the price increases. A couple years ago, I bought two ExpII's for sons and a 14060 for me and spent about what a new Sub will cost you today.
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ooofda. SJP = a horse.
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I've generally found that newer stuff is more prone to breakage and wear. You presume that production standards are improving, but I don't see that. Rolex is a brand, and as such, it is a marketing machine. To entice new money to pay more, they concoct "improvements". My old Zenith Daytona keeps better time than the brand new sub. Perhaps that is because the movement is "more complicated". They say it is not going to last as long. Well, it hasn't been serviced, and the time is spot on to the second.
I would suggest you get the latest US dollar coin. Compare it to a vintage silver piece or a vintage gold piece. Which is worth more? Grab a pre 1964 Kennedy half dollar. That "vintage" coin is worth about $13 in melt value. The new half dollar isn't worth the scrap metal its coined with. I suppose you can keep trading in your watches like you do cars, and that isn't a bad plan if you wish to pay a couple grand year to essentially rent a watch. I'm surprised we haven't seen a leasing program for Rolex watches yet. With that said, I find it hard to wear an old watch with an acrylic face. I prefer sapphire. That was one improvement I will agree with. The blue spring? Not so much. Ceramic? We'll see how long it lasts before it ages and cracks. Those newfangled ceramic tiles on the space shuttle were the latest and greatest, and they didn't turn out so well. That design flaw ended the entire program. I hear NASA is going back to "vintage" rocket design. Rolex is making simpler movements to cut down on costs and increase profits during service. |
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One word "Charm".
'Ya either get it or you don't... For those who don't, feel free to buy at MSRP- more vintage pieces for me :) |
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Ah, the perennial vintage question. So hard to answer in some ways yet so easy in another.
For me,at least, there's simply no joy whatsoever in walking into an AD, dumping a wad of cash or a credit card on the counter and walking out with a new watch. Anybody can do it, and if 100 people bought the same watch on the same day you'd never be able to tell one from the other. Characterless, soulless, and no challenge whatsoever. Aside from that, the gorgeous patina on dial and hands, the knowledge that your watch may have a history that goes back decades, the scarcity, not to mention the investment value... no competition in my book. Newer technology is no compensation for any of that, IMO.
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Cars are a good anology, I feel the everyone would be equally split over these two. I would love both
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So is "vintage" like the cougar craze?
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That is a good analogy with the gul there. Both amazing machines, but my God is that original one a beauty!
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craze implies it was happening and then passed. cougars never cease to provide entertainment
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If i had to explain the allure of Vintage Watches, as opposed to the newer models, it would be that they cry out for recognition; for you to use your imagination when wearing and talking about them. There is something almost surreal about wearing a watch with bags of history, a watch that was a vital tool to somebody who although you have never met, you can empathise with, somebody who has taken great care of their watch because it has meant in some situations, the difference between life and death, i know it sounds dramatic, but it's true never the less. I may be wrong; but i don't think so.
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You and me both Dave!!
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This may be because you have never owned the original version. I had one 15 years ago and I can tell you they are a BITCH to drive + very hot!!! My friend has the new version and I can tell you it is far more user friendly!!
Like allot of older cars, they are nice to look at and romance about but they loose allot of that in the driving!! Raaaaaaaaar. |
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I think I would chose this one too. May not be as expensive, but I like this one more for some reaon. Maybe because it is red and it is a convertable.
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Hey, wasn't this thread about watches or something?
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It isn't the ingress or egress, it's the ventilation.
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Right, watches and watch forum. Hey don't look at me I wasn't the first one to post those car PICs.
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I think it's just the idea of preferring vintage stuff.
I see both sides of it. No way I'd trade my 50" plasma for a 1950's era set. I like my new appliances. For every day driving, I like my modern cars. But old cars and old watches have a certain character that the new ones are lacking. My biggest complaint about the newer Rolexes is how big and heavy they're becoming. |
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lol, nah, no to 50"s era tv sets for sure:), anyone?
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a vintage Merc you'd take for a cruise through Surrey on a sunny Sunday or on other special occassions a new Merc you'd use as your every day work horse driving through London i only wear vintage on quiet days where i have time to really appreciate it....
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My only concern would be the potential cost of being hooked on the vintage scene. It can cost a lot of money, like Golf, Scuba Diving and chasing ladies
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