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Tudor66 · 12 November 2013, 12:52 AM

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Originally Posted by DCheeta

...I'd keep what you have. But then again, I'm not as enamored with Red Subs as everyone else is, so I'll probably be in the minority here.

Your opinion is appreciated, but I have already drank from the red font fountain, and it may take a train to stop me now...!

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Originally Posted by powerfunk

Essentially you'd be trading a 1675 for a line of red text, and a 6565 for some boxes. I wouldn't.

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Yes, it does sound crazy, but buying and selling watches at this price point is also quite crazy...

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Originally Posted by CrownMe

... Real complete sets are very valuable and are getting hard to find. While the models you have now are a lot more readily available. Please get more detailed pics of the red sub and goodluck with whatever choice you make. Either way you cant go wrong.

Will do..., thanks...

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Originally Posted by Jake B

I'm with you..Doesn't the red text just mean that it was sold in North America? I don't think I'd trade an equally excellent 1680 + a 1675 + an Oysterdate just to basically have a "SOLD IN NORTH AMERICA" tag.

Interesting perspective..., since I live in North America, this makes me want it more...!

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Originally Posted by Vincent65

If it was m-first, it would cost even more. Doesn't mean the f-f is not 'worth' the market value, which is dictated by… the market! RE the trade, it depends how badly you want a great red (and a set) against what you already have. Only you know that. But I do know that if you have to have a red, it won't end until you get one. So, if the one offered is a peach (looks great in that shot), then why not? You can always get a nice 1675 again.

Thanks Vince, I was waiting for your comment...

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Originally Posted by jolimont

keep the GMT and trade the other 2+ cash

Interesting, but the goal is to use existing watches, not cash.

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Originally Posted by DiamondJack

...a pragmatic type of person who doesn't tend to have an emotional bond with your watches.....

You got me thinking here, I don't think I have an emotional tie to my watches, as I keep turning them over each year....

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Originally Posted by John in MA

Are you a collector or hobbyist? My impression is you are a hobbyist. With that in mind, is the red text and boxes worth the GMT and the 6565? For me personally it isn't but then, I like to wear my watches and if they get dings so be it.

Reading through this, at this very moment I am hobbyist who thinks he is a collector....!

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Originally Posted by lhanddds

Not for me. I never understood the double value for a bit of red paint ( but that's me). I might have a red one day but I won't trade my GMT in with my 1680 to fund it. Good luck

Interesting perspective Larry

azguy · 12 November 2013, 12:52 AM

are you crazy

no way IMHO....

Plus, the lugs on that red appeared polished or something weird, unless its just bad picture lighting...... and I never believe the "been is safe for 30 years stuff"

007Sub · 12 November 2013, 12:54 AM

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Originally Posted by CrownMe

if the Red sub was in really good shape , all original , case lugs are really fat and not over polished, and its a complete REAL set then i would take the trade. Real complete sets are very valuable and are getting hard to find. While the models you have now are a lot more readily available. Please get more detailed pics of the red sub and goodluck with whatever choice you make. Either way you cant go wrong.

I think i agree with this. If the red sub is your grail then do it!

007Sub · 12 November 2013, 12:55 AM

Though what I'd rather see you do is sell the 1680 and the 6565, keep the 1675 and put out some cash...

DennisJ · 12 November 2013, 12:56 AM

I don't think I would do it, I would at least not part with 1675. Your 1680 would probably not be missed as you'd get it replaced by the red. I think there is a big risk that if you go ahead you will enjoy the honeymoon, but after sometime when the first excitement has settled you could regret the deal.

Beef · 12 November 2013, 01:05 AM

Only you can answer this. GMTs are easy to pick up. With a Red 1680, you probably won't miss the white a bit. The 6565 is, well, a 6565. You could get it and start saving for another 1675.

dysondiver · 12 November 2013, 01:09 AM

nope

CrownMe · 12 November 2013, 01:40 AM

Comes down to condition imho. A red sub full set that's it excellent condition is worth more then what he's trading. If the lugs are over polished and the dial is not perfect I'd pass.

Good Red sets are only gonna get harder to find and the value will only go up. That being said if the condition of the red is not excellent, I would keep the gmt, sell the others and buy a really nice red without the paperwork.

Goodluck with your choice.

nikanarani · 12 November 2013, 01:56 AM

Short answer: no, short explanation: 3>1

enhamhale · 12 November 2013, 01:56 AM

Follow the force, if you like it go for it all the best in your pursuit .

Kevin.S · 12 November 2013, 02:05 AM

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Originally Posted by paltak

x1,00000000000

This

wahasa · 12 November 2013, 02:06 AM

you already have a 1680 - trust me the difference is quite minimal.

Actually the SUBMARINER 'Red font' is quite smaller than the 'White font'.

I would keep those 3 pieces...

CrownMe · 12 November 2013, 04:21 AM

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Originally Posted by wahasa

you already have a 1680 - trust me the difference is quite minimal.

Actually the SUBMARINER 'Red font' is quite smaller than the 'White font'.

I would keep those 3 pieces...

Yes the white 1680 is very similar but the red is just more rare and worth more. Comes down to personal preference really.

Cc1966 · 12 November 2013, 05:02 AM

Wow, this is a tough one. You would be hard pressed to find another Red Sub with all the goodies that you can acquire. Price-wise it's a wash. If the Red really is in your heart, do it! Good luck in your decision.

1675-David · 12 November 2013, 05:38 AM

Vintage watches are not about rational thinking...it's an emotional thing. If you want it do it!!

good luck with your decision

colpol · 12 November 2013, 05:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by powerfunk

Essentially you'd be trading a 1675 for a line of red text, and a 6565 for some boxes. I wouldn't.

Sent from my SPH-D710VMUB using Tapatalk 2

Totally agree

swomariner · 12 November 2013, 06:36 AM

It really depends on you. I would personally be tempted to make the deal just because I really love Red Sub watches. That watch is more alluring to me then the 3 you currently have, but that's me. You must have been attracted to them at some point, otherwise you wouldn't own them now. The pics you posted of your current collection is very nice, but if I were given the choice, I would chose the Red Sub.

Follow your heart on this one. I can tell you from personal experience, once you start lusting over a Red Sub, it won't go away until you have one on your wrist.

Good luck!

Furbo · 12 November 2013, 07:08 AM

You'll be watchless after this deal, if those 3 are all you have.
True, you will have one red sub, but will you wear it or will it remain a safe queen? ;)

Welshwatchman · 12 November 2013, 07:13 AM

Even though the red sub's market price is quite a bit higher than the 1675, I still prefer the 1675.

.... and to lose a 1680 and an oysterdate in the process, no way for me.

SLS · 12 November 2013, 07:26 AM

I can see the value of your 1675 & 1680, I'm not sure if the 6565 is adding much to the deal. Personally I would try to keep the 6565 and trade the other two and see where that lands you. If it's a deal breaker, then include the 6565. I just hate to see 3 go for 1, but I have been considering consolidating as well....as you can only wear one at a time. Good luck,
Scott

Jp28 · 12 November 2013, 07:53 AM

Thats a lot to trade however they are replaceable. So is the red sub, but as a full set they are really tough to find.

Some key questions from me......

How much do you (really) want a red sub sub?
How much do you use the 3 you have?
How much are you prepared to have cash tied up in paperwork and boxes ?
How much money do you want tied up in watches in total ?

Survivor · 12 November 2013, 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Antoinerob

Would you trade your three daily cars for a Porsche? Maybe...
Would you drive every day with your Porsche? Maybe not....
Hard to decide...go your own sweet way!

Of course and of course........why else would you get a Porsche???

descartes · 12 November 2013, 09:37 AM

Based on the sale prices at today's Christies auction in Geneva-- which saw two Red Subs sell for $46,000 and $22,000, respectively-- I would do the deal!

The one for $22K was meters first, but otherwise unremarkable. The one for $46k was also unremarkable, but did come with box and punched papers.

The insanity continues....

Michael M. · 12 November 2013, 01:24 PM

I would personally keep the mark 2 1675 and trade the other two plus cash.

Also, for being in a safe since 1981 the case looks quite polished, but the dial (mark 5) and insert look very nice!

omitohud · 12 November 2013, 03:01 PM

1 vs 3. To me which one is harder to acquire or replace. If you say its your grail watch, and probably harder to find in such state, then I would say go for it. You could always source those 3, more easily later when you have the cash, but you will always have your grail. Otherwise, you would always be in the hunt for one. If the value is equal, I would do it.

redsubby · 12 November 2013, 03:21 PM

Only if the red sub is in superb condition. Minimun or no polish, fat lugs, excellent case condition...etc.

Tudor66 · 12 November 2013, 03:31 PM

I just saw this on Hodinkee. The hands don't appear to match the color of lume.., but someone stilled paid 16k for a full set...

http://www.hodinkee.com/blog/found-a...e-pics-pricing

CrownMe · 12 November 2013, 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Tudor66

I just saw this on Hodinkee. The hands don't appear to match the color of lume.., but someone stilled paid 16k for a full set...

http://www.hodinkee.com/blog/found-a...e-pics-pricing

Yea I recently just saw a full set go for 15.500 on ebay and the red wasn't in that great of shape.

When could u get more pictures?

Vincent65 · 12 November 2013, 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Tudor66

I just saw this on Hodinkee. The hands don't appear to match the color of lume.., but someone stilled paid 16k for a full set...

http://www.hodinkee.com/blog/found-a...e-pics-pricing

Saw this a while ago - 'someone still paid 16k' because that's what it is worth. Nothing to say those hands are not original to the watch, and I'd bet that they are.

kieselguhr · 12 November 2013, 05:21 PM

It's a grail after all. You won't stop thinking about it until you have it.
Maybe evaluate the 3 watches you already have, consider whatever valuable experiences are attached to them. If you are willing to part with that, then go forth and drench thyself in red.

12 November 2013, 12:55 AM	#34
007Sub "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Real Name: Greg Location: USA Watch: 5514 Posts: 1,630	Though what I'd rather see you do is sell the 1680 and the 6565, keep the 1675 and put out some cash... __________________ @true_patina @true.dome

12 November 2013, 01:05 AM	#36
Beef "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: USA Posts: 1,824	Only you can answer this. GMTs are easy to pick up. With a Red 1680, you probably won't miss the white a bit. The 6565 is, well, a 6565. You could get it and start saving for another 1675. __________________ "An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last." "So you have enemies. Good. You must have stood up for something, sometime in your life." Winston Churchill

12 November 2013, 05:02 AM	#44
Cc1966 "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Real Name: Christopher Location: Georgia, USA Watch: ing the Sea... Posts: 6,713	Wow, this is a tough one. You would be hard pressed to find another Red Sub with all the goodies that you can acquire. Price-wise it's a wash. If the Red really is in your heart, do it! Good luck in your decision. __________________ "I wish to have no Connection with any Ship that does not Sail fast for I intend to go in harm's way." Captain John Paul Jones, 16 November 1778 "*Curmudgeons* " Favorites: 1665 SD, Sub Date, DSSD, Exp II, Sub LV, GMTIIc

12 November 2013, 07:26 AM	#50
SLS "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Real Name: Scott Location: GMT -7 Watch: GMT's & Sub's Posts: 10,399	I can see the value of your 1675 & 1680, I'm not sure if the 6565 is adding much to the deal. Personally I would try to keep the 6565 and trade the other two and see where that lands you. If it's a deal breaker, then include the 6565. I just hate to see 3 go for 1, but I have been considering consolidating as well....as you can only wear one at a time. Good luck, Scott __________________ "The bitterness of poor quality remains long after the sweetness of lower price is forgotten." -Benjamin Franklin Member No. 922

12 November 2013, 03:31 PM	#57
Tudor66 "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Real Name: Al Location: California, USA Watch: GMT- Pepsi Posts: 3,462	Prices are unrealistic... I just saw this on Hodinkee. The hands don't appear to match the color of lume.., but someone stilled paid 16k for a full set... http://www.hodinkee.com/blog/found-a...e-pics-pricing __________________ -NAWCC Member

12 November 2013, 12:52 AM	#32
azguy Banned Join Date: Sep 2011 Real Name: ------- Location: ------- Watch: --------- Posts: 12,609	are you crazy no way IMHO.... Plus, the lugs on that red appeared polished or something weird, unless its just bad picture lighting...... and I never believe the "been is safe for 30 years stuff"

12 November 2013, 12:56 AM	#35
DennisJ "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Tokyo Watch: 16800 Posts: 170	I don't think I would do it, I would at least not part with 1675. Your 1680 would probably not be missed as you'd get it replaced by the red. I think there is a big risk that if you go ahead you will enjoy the honeymoon, but after sometime when the first excitement has settled you could regret the deal.

12 November 2013, 01:09 AM	#37
dysondiver "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Real Name: tom Location: northern ireland Watch: my fins Posts: 10,063	nope

12 November 2013, 01:40 AM	#38
CrownMe "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Real Name: Kevin Location: Maryland Watch: My Open 6 Posts: 3,433	Comes down to condition imho. A red sub full set that's it excellent condition is worth more then what he's trading. If the lugs are over polished and the dial is not perfect I'd pass. Good Red sets are only gonna get harder to find and the value will only go up. That being said if the condition of the red is not excellent, I would keep the gmt, sell the others and buy a really nice red without the paperwork. Goodluck with your choice.

12 November 2013, 01:56 AM	#39
nikanarani "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Bombay Watch: is on my wrist Posts: 315	Short answer: no, short explanation: 3>1

12 November 2013, 01:56 AM	#40
enhamhale "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Real Name: Alex Location: England (andover) Watch: Submariners all Posts: 470	Follow the force, if you like it go for it all the best in your pursuit .

12 November 2013, 02:06 AM	#42
wahasa "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: UAE Watch: Rolex Sub 1680 Posts: 216	you already have a 1680 - trust me the difference is quite minimal. Actually the SUBMARINER 'Red font' is quite smaller than the 'White font'. I would keep those 3 pieces...

12 November 2013, 05:38 AM	#45
1675-David "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Stockholm Posts: 6,015	Vintage watches are not about rational thinking...it's an emotional thing. If you want it do it!! good luck with your decision

12 November 2013, 06:36 AM	#47
swomariner "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Washington Watch: Rolex / Tudor Posts: 259	It really depends on you. I would personally be tempted to make the deal just because I really love Red Sub watches. That watch is more alluring to me then the 3 you currently have, but that's me. You must have been attracted to them at some point, otherwise you wouldn't own them now. The pics you posted of your current collection is very nice, but if I were given the choice, I would chose the Red Sub. Follow your heart on this one. I can tell you from personal experience, once you start lusting over a Red Sub, it won't go away until you have one on your wrist. Good luck!

12 November 2013, 07:08 AM	#48
Furbo "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Slovenia, EU Watch: BLNR Posts: 1,507	You'll be watchless after this deal, if those 3 are all you have. True, you will have one red sub, but will you wear it or will it remain a safe queen? ;)

12 November 2013, 07:13 AM	#49
Welshwatchman "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Real Name: Paul Location: Wales, UK Posts: 14,578	Even though the red sub's market price is quite a bit higher than the 1675, I still prefer the 1675. .... and to lose a 1680 and an oysterdate in the process, no way for me.

12 November 2013, 07:53 AM	#51
Jp28 "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Here and there Posts: 566	Thats a lot to trade however they are replaceable. So is the red sub, but as a full set they are really tough to find. Some key questions from me...... How much do you (really) want a red sub sub? How much do you use the 3 you have? How much are you prepared to have cash tied up in paperwork and boxes ? How much money do you want tied up in watches in total ?

12 November 2013, 09:37 AM	#53
descartes "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: North Shore Posts: 1,116	Based on the sale prices at today's Christies auction in Geneva-- which saw two Red Subs sell for $46,000 and $22,000, respectively-- I would do the deal! The one for $22K was meters first, but otherwise unremarkable. The one for $46k was also unremarkable, but did come with box and punched papers. The insanity continues....

12 November 2013, 01:24 PM	#54
Michael M. Banned Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Newport Beach, CA Posts: 8,391	I would personally keep the mark 2 1675 and trade the other two plus cash. Also, for being in a safe since 1981 the case looks quite polished, but the dial (mark 5) and insert look very nice!

12 November 2013, 03:01 PM	#55
omitohud "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Real Name: Sam Location: los Angeles Posts: 2,051	1 vs 3. To me which one is harder to acquire or replace. If you say its your grail watch, and probably harder to find in such state, then I would say go for it. You could always source those 3, more easily later when you have the cash, but you will always have your grail. Otherwise, you would always be in the hunt for one. If the value is equal, I would do it.

12 November 2013, 03:21 PM	#56
redsubby "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Real Name: Henry Location: TW/SoCal Posts: 1,632	Only if the red sub is in superb condition. Minimun or no polish, fat lugs, excellent case condition...etc.

12 November 2013, 05:21 PM	#60
kieselguhr "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2013 Real Name: Nick Location: Las Vegas Watch: 1601 Posts: 10,423	It's a grail after all. You won't stop thinking about it until you have it. Maybe evaluate the 3 watches you already have, consider whatever valuable experiences are attached to them. If you are willing to part with that, then go forth and drench thyself in red.

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