Found a Rolex....

[QueueCumber]

Originally Posted by The moose

I pulled a 6234 pic online and put it up together with OP:s watch and there seem to be a lot of differences between OP:s and the genuine 6234:

There is more than one 6234 dial. The one you posted has big registers, while the OP and the Bonham ones are both small register. Likewise, there seem to be two different crown sizes and varying placement of the antimagnetic on the dial as well even within the same dials.

[QueueCumber]

Even if you are evaluating for insurance purposes, what does posting here accomplish?

An insurance company isn't going to take what people on this forum say as an authentic valuation. You are still left going to a jeweler that is a Rolex expert to get a proper valuation...

[The moose]

Originally Posted by QueueCumber

There is more than one 6234 dial. The one you posted has big registers, while the OP and the Bonham ones are both small register. Likewise, there seem to be two different crown sizes and varying placement of the antimagnetic on the dial as well even within the same dials.

Aha, true! The Bonham one doesn't seem to have the Oyster text underneath the Rolex text on the dial, like OP's has...

[CrownMe]

Tough crowd in here today smh

[77T]

Originally Posted by Holjon

Great guy. What do I have to gain from posting fake photos?



Not sure if it's jealousy or what.

I don't suggest you have anything to gain.

But the rules of this forum are clear.

[gslaskin]

That watch is an unbelievable find. Wow.

[QueueCumber]

Originally Posted by The moose

Aha, true! The Bonham one doesn't seem to have the Oyster text underneath the Rolex text on the dial, like OP's has...

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[Brad737]

Jeez guys. Give the guy a break. :). He's asking for info, not trying to sell it.

[Holjon]

Originally Posted by QueueCumber

Even if you are evaluating for insurance purposes, what does posting here accomplish?

An insurance company isn't going to take what people on this forum say as an authentic valuation. You are still left going to a jeweler that is a Rolex expert to get a proper valuation...

Thanks for your input there. Very helpful.

My insurance states that any individual item over £20000 requires to be listed separately.

The valuation of £1200 clearly doesn't put it into that scope. However, if, as people have said it may be higher, I will need a proper valuation which of course costs money.

I merely posted here to see if that was required. Obviously a huge mistake.

Not really sure where the hostility comes from. I am by no means a collector. I like watches but if a forum is not to gain knowledge from others with better expertise and share info then I don't really see the point.

[CrownMe]

Originally Posted by Holjon

Thanks for your input there. Very helpful.

My insurance states that any individual item over £20000 requires to be listed separately.

The valuation of £1200 clearly doesn't put it into that scope. However, if, as people have said it may be higher, I will need a proper valuation which of course costs money.

I merely posted here to see if that was required. Obviously a huge mistake.

Not really sure where the hostility comes from. I am by no means a collector. I like watches but if a forum is not to gain knowledge from others with better expertise and share info then I don't really see the point.

Unfortunately the forum gets a lot of Scammers posting fake watches on here merely to see what they need to improve on for future fakes.

This causes some forum members to jump the gun and try to call people out. Once one says it many "follow"

I would ignore those few and seek the advice of the people that are actually trying to help. Goodluck

[Nobody.Move]

Originally Posted by Holjon

Okay. That's very interesting. I took it to my local jeweler who got a microscope out and offered me £1200 for it. He said it was authentic but not collectable as they were ten a penny.
Will post some more pics tomorrow when I've got my laptop rather than phone.

Your jeweler sounds like a real winner. "He said it was authentic but not collectable as they were ten a penny." That's the best thing I've heard all day!

[dambro50]

Well said Crownme. Total agree with you.

[Presa canary]

Originally Posted by Holjon

Wow. This is a friendly forum isn't it.....

As I said, I took it to my local jeweller, not a rolex specialist. And for those of you who don't know North Devon very well, a local jeweller here isn't very well versed in old Rolex watches. He offered me £1200 for it which is some way off the £48000 of the Bonhams one.

The vast difference in the two sums either means he doesn't know its a rare watch and therefore is not sure what it is worth, or he was trying his luck. Either way, it sheds some doubt in my mind on his credentials for verifying its authenticity!

I asked this forum as I thought it the best bet for determining this.

I have no concerns, it was my fathers watch and therefore it is of no interest
to sell it.

I was more wondering if I should put it on my insurance or not, and if so at what value.


Oh, I do love forum folk. Many thanks to those with a constructive input.

This is a very nice forum. I'm not sure what you are really trying to accomplish. You claimed to have found a 60 year old watch while cleaning out drawers that happens to look brand new? Then you list the serial numbers, which end up being changed? Then you claim to have taken to a jeweler whom authenticated it without opening it? That's quite the guess work. I never said anything rude to you except I'm not buying your story. If you feel like answering the simple questions I've asked, maybe that will get you closer to the answer you seek. And once again, if you're legit, I apologize. The only way you'll get any watch authenticated is to have matching paper work, or cracking the back.

[Holjon]

Originally Posted by Presa canary

This is a very nice forum. I'm not sure what you are really trying to accomplish. You claimed to have found a 60 year old watch while cleaning out drawers that happens to look brand new? Then you list the serial numbers, which end up being changed? Then you claim to have taken to a jeweler whom authenticated it without opening it? That's quite the guess work. I never said anything rude to you except I'm not buying your story. If you feel like answering the simple questions I've asked, maybe that will get you closer to the answer you seek. And once again, if you're legit, I apologize. The only way you'll get any watch authenticated is to have matching paper work, or cracking the back.

My story? What are you on about.... I asked for some advice. Look at my original message...

"Can anyone shed some light on manufacture date. Also, is it worth anything?"

I now know that depends on whether it is a fake or not. Not having a trained eye like yourself (tongue in cheek) I sought advice from those who may know more than I.

Anyway, life's too short for this conversation. I'm taking to a specialist this week. I'll be sure to let you know what comes of it.

[Presa canary]

Originally Posted by Holjon

My story? What are you on about.... I asked for some advice. Look at my original message...

"Can anyone shed some light on manufacture date. Also, is it worth anything?"

I now know that depends on whether it is a fake or not. Not having a trained eye like yourself (tongue in cheek) I sought advice from those who may know more than I.

Anyway, life's too short for this conversation. I'm taking to a specialist this week. I'll be sure to let you know what comes of it.

I'm not on about anything. You put me in quotes so I responded. Be sure to let me know, I'll be holding my breath

[omitohud]

U can bring it to major auction houses to be appraise. Then u will know if it's legit. I hope it does. Story like this doesn't happen often. Not to mention its association to ur dad. Good luck.


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[cajuntiger]

Originally Posted by Presa canary

This is a very nice forum. I'm not sure what you are really trying to accomplish. You claimed to have found a 60 year old watch while cleaning out drawers that happens to look brand new? Then you list the serial numbers, which end up being changed? Then you claim to have taken to a jeweler whom authenticated it without opening it? That's quite the guess work. I never said anything rude to you except I'm not buying your story. If you feel like answering the simple questions I've asked, maybe that will get you closer to the answer you seek. And once again, if you're legit, I apologize. The only way you'll get any watch authenticated is to have matching paper work, or cracking the back.

This post is not "nice". Wouldn't it be better to just ignore?

[springer]

I see a lot of new vintage exerts around lately, and with that said, would one of you discuss the finer points of this watch for me - to include movement, dial, case etc. Inquiring minds want to know. I'd like to hear opinions on why it is genuine, or why it isn't. Unless this watch has been in the "sock drawer" since new, it's the finest example that I have ever seen - then again, I've never owned one.

[Advil]

Forget everything and just open up the caseback.

[waspy1]

No expert, but the engraving and case condition is bothering me. Looks too pristine and different from others I've seen. Although I've never seen a watch like this which has been in a drawer for 60 years. No 'stainless steel' or 'registered design'? Maybe hidden by strap I guess. Engraving seems lighter than others from this period. I hope it's real but this is sooooo rare to find I think it's understandable that everyone's skeptical radar is going off.


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[QueueCumber]

I'm no expert, which is why I won't say it is real or fake. I don't see the purpose of people saying one way or the other if they aren't certain...

[EEParker]

No idea if it is real or fake, but I'm keeping my fingers crossed for you. Stranger things have happened.

[mdw3]

OK, I wasn't going to get involved in this thread, but it seems a little reality might be helpful. Without getting into the issues regarding the motives of the original poster (or innocence thereof), I can tell you without "cracking the back" that the watch is 100% fine. Not only that, it is a very pristine and fine original example of an Anti-Magnetic chronograph, with fantastic dial and case. Everything looks unmolested to me, as it should, and proper. I have had two very fine examples of this same reference (and dial version) in the past 12 months, and they were very close in serial range as well.

Michael

[waspy1]

Wow, great to know Michael!


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[Robbyvm]

Originally Posted by mdw3

OK, I wasn't going to get involved in this thread, but it seems a little reality might be helpful. Without getting into the issues regarding the motives of the original poster (or innocence thereof), I can tell you without "cracking the back" that the watch is 100% fine. Not only that, it is a very pristine and fine original example of an Anti-Magnetic chronograph, with fantastic dial and case. Everything looks unmolested to me, as it should, and proper. I have had two very fine examples of this same reference (and dial version) in the past 12 months, and they were very close in serial range as well.

Michael

i was wondering why the specialists didn't get into this tread...
i bet there were some private conversations with the OP in the meanwhile

To the OP,
Good luck with the watch, i realy hope it turns out well for you !

[V.lats97nsx]

Wow

[mjclark32]

Originally Posted by mdw3

OK, I wasn't going to get involved in this thread, but it seems a little reality might be helpful. Without getting into the issues regarding the motives of the original poster (or innocence thereof), I can tell you without "cracking the back" that the watch is 100% fine. Not only that, it is a very pristine and fine original example of an Anti-Magnetic chronograph, with fantastic dial and case. Everything looks unmolested to me, as it should, and proper. I have had two very fine examples of this same reference (and dial version) in the past 12 months, and they were very close in serial range as well.

Michael

Good to hear

[up2nogood]

Odd that Rolex would install lume that covered the marker numbers on the dial.
I am hoping it's legit. Would be a nice change from many of these threads.....

[datejust24]

Well you just hit the lotto op ...congrats

[greekbum]

Michael summed it up above. The watch is crisp and sought after by many. Enjoy it