Rant against Apple

[TradingLoss]

I gave Apple 2 years, then I went back to Samsung.

I want my 2 years back.

[zengineer]

Originally Posted by beshannon

Oh the irony on a Rolex watch forum

Trust me, I am no "Rolex or nothing" watch enthusiast.

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[Uggi]

Originally Posted by TradingLoss

I gave Apple 2 years, then I went back to Samsung.

I want my 2 years back.

This is me.
Apple is a substandard system but as a company it has developed the ability to persuade people that "different" means "better".

[bitt3n]

I differentiate their phones from their computers. I've been using the same Macbook since 2012, dropped it more than once, and it still works fine. The walled-garden approach they apply to iOS on the other hand has kept me from ever buying one of their phones.

[CashGap]

Originally Posted by bitt3n

I differentiate their phones from their computers. I've been using the same Macbook since 2012, dropped it more than once, and it still works fine. The walled-garden approach they apply to iOS on the other hand has kept me from ever buying one of their phones.

Originally Posted by Uggi

This is me.
Apple is a substandard system but as a company it has developed the ability to persuade people that "different" means "better".

https://www.macrumors.com/2021/03/14...ncognito-mode/

https://www.macworld.com/article/361...macos-ios.html

Not much else to say.

But many are fine being the product, not the customer. And many disregard the 60% of resale in year two versus 0%, and think Apple is "expensive". Penny wise.

There are PLENTY of customers who will sacrifice ANYTHING to save a buck, and plenty of contrarians who will sacrifice ANYTHING to access 'warez' or to control the color of the system font, etc.

[daveathall]

Originally Posted by CashGap

But many are fine being the product, not the customer. And many disregard the 60% of resale in year two versus 0%, and think Apple is "expensive". Penny wise.

Although I own an iPhone, it is obvious from your statement that you have never tried to sell a 2 year old flagship Samsung Phone, it probably wouldn't reach 60% but nor would an iPhone, I just checked mine (iPhone 11 Pro Max) and it would sell for £470 which is less than 50%. A Samsung Galaxy of the same age sells for just under 40%, which is a lot more than 0%. I can understand your love for Apple products but by spouting false information, it does your argument no good whatsoever, in fact, it weakens it.

[CashGap]

Originally Posted by daveathall

Although I own an iPhone, it is obvious from your statement that you have never tried to sell a 2 year old flagship Samsung Phone, it probably wouldn't reach 60% but nor would an iPhone, I just checked mine (iPhone 11 Pro Max) and it would sell for £470 which is less than 50%. A Samsung Galaxy of the same age sells for just under 40%, which is a lot more than 0. I can understand your love for Apple products but by spouting false information, it does your argument no good whatsoever, in fact, it weakens it.

A fraction of android phones are made by Samsung. 100% of iPhones are made by Apple.

Most Android phones are throwaways, price point garbage. But the market has a buyer for every product. Android's dominance of the third world and the bottom third of the first world is unquestioned. The only arguments are "Because Cheaper!" or "I can run my Warez" or "I ***NEED*** to change my font color because I am a power user!".

McDonald's trounces Ruth's Chris in every market they share. Obviously, superior suppliers of beef.

You did not mention Google's tendency to sell their user data to the highest bidder?

[daveathall]

Originally Posted by CashGap

A fraction of android phones are made by Samsung. 100% of iPhones are made by Apple.

Most Android phones are throwaways, price point garbage. But the market has a buyer for every product. Android's dominance of the third world and the bottom third of the first world is unquestioned. The only two arguments are "Because Cheaper!" or "I can run my Warez" or "I ***NEED*** to change my font color because I am a power user!".

McDonald's trounces Ruth's Chris in every market they share. Obviously, superior suppliers of beef.

So you are not comparing flagship phone to flagship phone? That figures. But back to your initial post, 0% resale to try and make your point. Really?

[Tommyk]

I know 2 people personally who worked in direct contact with Steve Jobs when designing the first iPhone and the iterations after. I can say with some confidence of their own experiences that the intention for elitism wasnt there in the boardroom but manifested over the years as the customers developed a cult-like attitude towards the product. When Jobs passed and Tim Crook took over is when this accelerated massively. Tim was an operations guy who really was the right guy at the time in the early 2000's and cemented himself as a savior due to supply chain changes and the success of the Apple store.

Either way, my point is like what a previous post said "the inmates are running the asylum". They have way too many employees "managing" everything but hire people on their groupthink dedication towards Apple being the one and only brand you should consider.
Now with covid restrictions customer service accross almost all industries has gone rock bottom. Bottom level employees have become arrogant and abusive toward patrons because of their resentment towards the status quo and their new power given to them by the circumstances of covid. They see them selves as front line workers who are victims of the moment and if you dont follow their rules, then you my friend are out of line in their eyes.
Just my $.02