Maxi dial in 16610

[Pure_class]

I have a 2008 M serial 16610, and I am always drawn to the Maxi dial subs, espeically pictures ive seen of 16610LV's with a black bezel swap. Is it considered ridiculous to source a 116610LN maxi dial and put it into my 2008 M serial? Of course I would retain the original dial for my own or if I ever decided to part with it. Would this hurt the resale of the watch ever? and would this be considered a "franken sub"? Not looking to degrade the watch or have it lose any value. I just do really appreciate the maxi dial and think the best sub is a 16610 with maxi dial and black bezel. Thoughts???

[Johny]

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I think that the 116610 dial has blue lume. It would be a nice contrast with the 16610ln/lv green lume hands.

[myc ritz]

You would need a 16610LV dial for it to work. They are also Maxi.

[FTX I]

Originally Posted by myc ritz

You would need a 16610LV dial for it to work. They are also Maxi.

[jerryguo]

it’d be easier to get a 16610lv and swap the bezel with your 16610


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[samsmart]

Definitely swap the hands also. Will look funny imo if you don't. Skinny hands, fate markers.

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[Andad]

When I bough my 16610LV in 2008 I also bought a spare bezel with a black insert.

I haven’t bothered to swap it yet.

[Pure_class]

Would adding a 116610LN or 16610LV dial and handset make the sub lose value as it has been modded? I would be using genuine rolex dial and hands..

[padi56]

Originally Posted by Pure_class

Would adding a 116610LN or 16610LV dial and handset make the sub lose value as it has been modded? I would be using genuine rolex dial and hands..

As the 16610LV or the 116610 dial were not originally fitted would be considered by many a franken Rolex watch, and yes to many would lose its value, better option sell your 16610 and buy a 116610.

[dricig]

You are creating a Frankenwatch since even with original Rolex parts the 16610 with maxi dial was not made. It's your watch to do what you please, but it will look like a fake.
I personally prefer the smaller plots and hands of the 16610. and why risk opening the watch up, don't fix what ain't broke!

[Pure_class]

This is what I would be going for look wise. Possibly even adding a glidelock eventually.

[Platypus]

That's a frankenwatch. Even a 16610LV with the green bezel swapped to black would technically be considered a franken.

Originally Posted by Pure_class

This is what I would be going for look wise. Possibly even adding a glidelock eventually.

[doramas]

Originally Posted by dricig

You are creating a Frankenwatch since even with original Rolex parts the 16610 with maxi dial was not made. It's your watch to do what you please, but it will look like a fake.
I personally prefer the smaller plots and hands of the 16610. and why risk opening the watch up, don't fix what ain't broke!

I totally agree.

[whited3]

Originally Posted by Pure_class

I have a 2008 M serial 16610, and I am always drawn to the Maxi dial subs, espeically pictures ive seen of 16610LV's with a black bezel swap. Is it considered ridiculous to source a 116610LN maxi dial and put it into my 2008 M serial? Of course I would retain the original dial for my own or if I ever decided to part with it. Would this hurt the resale of the watch ever? and would this be considered a "franken sub"? Not looking to degrade the watch or have it lose any value. I just do really appreciate the maxi dial and think the best sub is a 16610 with maxi dial and black bezel. Thoughts???

So it's only going to hurt the resale if you leave the maxi dial in there, because as folks have generally stated deviation from factory spec is "franken". People also don't like to buy watches that have been tinkered with.

Swapping back and forth should be trivial for a competent watchmaker and I'd liken this with swapping wheels on a car and saving the originals. Both the watch and the car could get royally messed up, but it's really not a concern if done right.

At this point we could cite reason after reason (after reason..) to decide one way or another. Your tolerance for risk, and the skill and resources available to you should dictate your decision.



Now personally if I had such an itch, I'm the type of guy that would go for it. Luckily I have the SD4k

[Pure_class]

All great feedback! Yeah I definitely don't like messing with the factory specs or creating a franken watch, especially if it can hurt any value.

[Chester01]

The 16610 is perhaps one of the most balanced watches out there. I would leave it alone. The bloat in almost their entire line is not a welcome look for me and introduced for the sole purpose of increasing wrist presence.

[Bruno Datejust]

Thanks for the input, I was somehow considering the same move but maybe the slightly smaller and less contrasting bezel goes well with the smaller dots. Seeing the photos of the 16610 with Maxi dial is what I thought to obtain, but something in it doesn't work 100%. Hard to say.. the comparison with the wheels of the car is fine, but on the watch a dial swap is a bit more. The wheels of a car could be the bracelet in a better analogy? Who knows..

[Tools]

If you want a maxi-dial, get a watch that comes with one originally.

That said, I would be the first to make a change to my watch if I had access already to the parts and wanted the look. Most folks want to do it cheap, and the parts and labor for many changes do not make much financial sense.

If you need a push, ask Jocke.

[Amochosto]

As someone who got interested with Rolex during the Ceramic era, one of my biggest disappointments with 5 digits is the non maxi dials. Legible, but not as attractive to me, and inferior lume. I would do that swap if the correct parts could be sourced.

[csaltphoto]

Honestly if money was no object? I'd add the maxi-dial and hands, and a red second hand from a Yachtmaster. And a non-cyclops crystal. Why not have something that speaks to your taste?

[Bruno Datejust]

I simply wonder if the maxi dial fits well on the slimmer 5 digit case. Considering that Rolex offered the maxi dial only with the less dark Kermit bezel. I wonder if they didn't simply know very well what they were doing. Maybe we should simply get used to the all-slimmer look of the 5 digit series. I, for example, love the cling of the older bracelet, it's so "tool watch".

[Jocke]

Originally Posted by Bruno Datejust

I simply wonder if the maxi dial fits well on the slimmer 5 digit case. Considering that Rolex offered the maxi dial only with the less dark Kermit bezel. I wonder if they didn't simply know very well what they were doing. Maybe we should simply get used to the all-slimmer look of the 5 digit series. I, for example, love the cling of the older bracelet, it's so "tool watch".

Sub and DJ and most of th OYsters have the same size at the dial.

Here is something we do a few years back.

[vette boy 52]

Buy a 16610LV and change the bezel to a black one, be sure to keep the green one as they demand a premium.

[faimag]

I would leave the 16610 alone, if it were mine.

[Bruno Datejust]

Originally Posted by vette boy 52

Buy a 16610LV and change the bezel to a black one, be sure to keep the green one as they demand a premium.

Unfortunately the 16610LV is quite expensive nowadays. For what I've understood, with less than1K you can source maxi dial and hands, so this is the easiest way.

[Pure_class]

Originally Posted by Bruno Datejust

Unfortunately the 16610LV is quite expensive nowadays. For what I've understood, with less than1K you can source maxi dial and hands, so this is the easiest way.

Correct Bruno. That is one of the bigger reasons. If i could grab a 16610LV for similar price to a 16610 id do that and just simply swap the bezel for a while, but paying $13k+ just isnt in the cards haha. and yeah I priced out grabbing the dial and hands for under $1k all genuine rolex of course. labor would be a couple hundred i believe. Now adding a glidelock bracelet would def be way less cost effective. Of course all of this is to keep the slimmer 5 digit style but have maxi indices and hands...

[Bruno Datejust]

Originally Posted by Pure_class

Correct Bruno. That is one of the bigger reasons. If i could grab a 16610LV for similar price to a 16610 id do that and just simply swap the bezel for a while, but paying $13k+ just isnt in the cards haha. and yeah I priced out grabbing the dial and hands for under $1k all genuine rolex of course. labor would be a couple hundred i believe. Now adding a glidelock bracelet would def be way less cost effective. Of course all of this is to keep the slimmer 5 digit style but have maxi indices and hands...

I understand you. Obviously the money for dial and hands can be considered some kind of money invested, if your watchmaker won't destroy anything (LOL), you should be able to get all your money back when selling the 16610 in its original shape and the spares separately. I personally maybe am getting used to the smaller dots.

[dricig]

The Maxi dial and hands look better on the Maxi case 6 digits.
The availability of the maxi dial and hands are the reason that people are getting ripped of on franken kermits.

[Johny]

Originally Posted by Tools

If you want a maxi-dial, get a watch that comes with one originally.

That said, I would be the first to make a change to my watch if I had access already to the parts and wanted the look. Most folks want to do it cheap, and the parts and labor for many changes do not make much financial sense.

If you need a push, ask Jocke.

I made the mistake of asking for advice from Jocke and ended up with a lv with a green date wheel, gold winding crown a/r cyclops crystal and nato strap.

[Polarexplorerii]

Originally Posted by myc ritz

You would need a 16610LV dial for it to work. They are also Maxi.

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