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23 February 2018, 08:12 PM | #31 | |
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No way i would source a popular watch from the salon. Takes way too long. That is my AD BTW... 5164, 5712, 5524 from them. |
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23 February 2018, 08:16 PM | #32 | |
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23 February 2018, 08:20 PM | #33 |
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23 February 2018, 10:02 PM | #35 | |
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Thankfully, I am pretty happy with what I have and will continue to be happy if my 5712 doesn't materialize. |
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23 February 2018, 10:07 PM | #36 |
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Awfully expensive for a 3-hand-date steel watch.
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23 February 2018, 10:15 PM | #37 | |
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Im actually stressing out about watches... allocations, getting in before price rises, availabliity. Its not fun anymore to try to add pieces. So basically im out either now or after the 5990, but thats it for the foreseeable future. |
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23 February 2018, 10:36 PM | #38 |
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I tend to agree with it not being as fun anymore. I appreciate the exclusivity of being in the club, but these waitlists and premiums are a killer. Makes collecting a lot less fun. Fortunately, there are so many brands out there, the independents in particular, who really make it a point to cater to their customers.
I know this is a business, but if Rolex produced more Daytonas the madness would cease. Same with the Nautilus but we all know TS is not doing that. |
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23 February 2018, 10:38 PM | #40 |
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Here's one I saw last Sunday in Tokyo:
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23 February 2018, 10:41 PM | #41 |
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I also think it's a shame that Patek is becoming only known for the 5711/12, especially in the younger crowd. With these crazy prices, why not add a few bucks and either consider going precious metal (5711R, 5712R) or just jump into the brand with one of their annual calendar offerings.
My first was the 5205R and I added the 5712r after I realized I wanted a more casual Patek. But the allure of the dress/classy nature of the brand was what drew me to being a part of the club, not the three hand SS sports watch. I can get that elsewhere no problem. |
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24 February 2018, 12:26 AM | #43 |
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2 years ago, a mate of mine paid $20.5k for his 5711 blue. I remember some of the other guys in the group also said the same exact words "awfully expensive for a basic SS watch". But he is the one laughing now
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24 February 2018, 12:58 AM | #44 |
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I wonder how much my fathers 3700 fully documented with cork box would go for in Tokyo... hmm
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24 February 2018, 01:04 AM | #46 | |
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White metals aren’t as desirable in Asia, ie White gold/platinum. Yellow gold and rose gold sell very well. You can find deals on PM white pieces fairly often. I’ve added about 4 platinum watches to my collection as they were priced cheaper than gold and a little above steel prices (used of course.) |
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24 February 2018, 01:49 AM | #48 |
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24 February 2018, 03:37 AM | #50 |
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In the US it is unlikely to land a 5711/12 unlesss you have a prior purchase history with the AD. My AD has no wait list, not sure he will even get one this year, he told me. If he gets one, will be offered to previous clientele. Simple as that.
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25 February 2018, 05:26 AM | #51 |
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25 February 2018, 02:38 PM | #53 |
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25 February 2018, 08:59 PM | #54 |
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I really hope that eventually the market drops the value of secondhand ss Nautilus (5711, 5712) one way or another... spending over inflated second hand prices that we are seeing now will not last forever and is getting ridiculous. Some buyers will surely see a depreciation in their investmensst one day.... just a thought. Unless they cease production and no more are manufactured making them unobtainable new.
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27 February 2018, 08:54 PM | #58 |
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It would be interesting to understand if Tokyo-based dealers are offering sellers higher prices, or whether these higher retail prices are reflective of their own higher costs of doing business with broadly normal margins.
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1 March 2018, 01:39 PM | #59 |
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5.5% price increase for UK on all SS Nautilus.
Not checked PM & other references.
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1 March 2018, 04:44 PM | #60 | |
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details please. When? Across the Nautilus range only? Is this in addition to the new price for the 5711 and 5712 (+20% march 1 + 5.5% + the 5% increase that already happened Sept 1)? Confirmed by who? it was around 5.5% last time too which went into effect september 1, 2017 but was across the entire range.... and we had one month notice of the change. |
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