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Suboc · 28 March 2014, 09:50 AM

A friend picked this up but I have many concerns. Any help would be appriciated. His watchmaker said the movement looked good, but what about everything else? I would appreciate your thoughts.
Daniel

Suboc · 28 March 2014, 09:53 AM

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Tools · 28 March 2014, 10:21 AM

Sorry, that looks fake to me..

goog53 · 28 March 2014, 10:25 AM

Is the Rolex crown literally hitting the L in Rolex? My 1655 does not look like that

Suboc · 28 March 2014, 10:35 AM

Very close but not quite. I haven't seen this dial configuration anywhere. Any thoughts on the case, bezel or hands? Things aren't looking good.
Thanks,
Daniel

goog53 · 28 March 2014, 10:57 AM

Dial looks off.
Credit page to http://stefanomazzariol.blogspot.com...cione.html?m=1

Suboc · 28 March 2014, 11:02 AM

Thanks, I sent that to my friend. Nothing shown with the same crown with T Swiss T The (II) on my friends dial looks odd as well.

southtexas · 28 March 2014, 11:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by goog53

Is the Rolex crown literally hitting the L in Rolex? My 1655 does not look like that

1st thing I noticed as well

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nsumner · 28 March 2014, 11:59 AM

I'm not an expert by any stretch of the imagination but the case looks off. Especially the crown guards.

Suboc · 28 March 2014, 12:07 PM

The serial# is 3427XXX

Shade · 28 March 2014, 12:22 PM

A franken I think, dial and case doesnt look proper to me sorry. The movement seems legit though..

springer · 28 March 2014, 01:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tools

sorry, that looks fake to me..

x2.

mike · 28 March 2014, 02:11 PM

The hash marks don't go to the edge of the rehaut. A big tell on at least a redone dial.

watchcrank · 29 March 2014, 12:09 AM

Same as listed on VRF, movement looks OK, rest fake!

swish77 · 29 March 2014, 01:30 AM

GMT hand looks odd, and is not long enough.

marcello pisani · 29 March 2014, 01:51 AM

of GH hormone treated case ... LLOLLLLLL

adam78 · 29 March 2014, 02:06 AM

If he picked it up, he can surely set it down again...no?

Vincent65 · 29 March 2014, 02:49 AM

case is a joke - dial, hands, bezel too - junk, sorry

Cc1966 · 29 March 2014, 03:02 AM

That dial is horrendous. Is you friend a WIS wantabe? Seems like a grand mistake...

Suboc · 29 March 2014, 03:05 AM

I let him know the consensus. It's as I was thinking from the beginning but just wanted to get a second opinion. I do appreciate your help.
Thanks,
Daniel

mannyv11 · 29 March 2014, 04:09 AM

wow hopefully he didn't lose his shirt on it, and can get his money back

datejust24 · 29 March 2014, 04:14 AM

sorry but as stated there are A LOT of issues with this piece...case is completely fake i'd say...hands are wrong, text on dial is wrong...at best its a franken but I would be interested to see what the movement looks like just out of curiosity....

28 March 2014, 10:21 AM	#3
Tools TRF Moderator & 2024 DATE-JUST41 Patron Join Date: May 2007 Real Name: Larry Location: Mojave Desert Watch: GMT's Posts: 43,090	Sorry, that looks fake to me.. __________________ (Chill ... It's just a watch Forum.....) NAWCC Member

28 March 2014, 10:35 AM	#5
Suboc "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: At my forge Posts: 494	Very close but.... Very close but not quite. I haven't seen this dial configuration anywhere. Any thoughts on the case, bezel or hands? Things aren't looking good. Thanks, Daniel

28 March 2014, 11:02 AM	#7
Suboc "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: At my forge Posts: 494	Yes I've seen that before.... Thanks, I sent that to my friend. Nothing shown with the same crown with T Swiss T The (II) on my friends dial looks odd as well.

28 March 2014, 12:07 PM	#10
Suboc "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: At my forge Posts: 494	The serial# is 3427XXX The serial# is 3427XXX

28 March 2014, 12:22 PM	#11
Shade "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Real Name: Norman Location: Jakarta Watch: All of 'em.. Posts: 2,926	A franken I think, dial and case doesnt look proper to me sorry. The movement seems legit though.. __________________ My collections.. Plus PAM 233, 232, 249 & PAM 417.

28 March 2014, 10:25 AM	#4
goog53 "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Real Name: Mike G Location: Ohio Watch: Rolex-Patek-AP Posts: 3,060	Is the Rolex crown literally hitting the L in Rolex? My 1655 does not look like that

28 March 2014, 10:57 AM	#6
goog53 "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Real Name: Mike G Location: Ohio Watch: Rolex-Patek-AP Posts: 3,060	Dial looks off. Credit page to http://stefanomazzariol.blogspot.com...cione.html?m=1

28 March 2014, 11:59 AM	#9
nsumner "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Real Name: Nathaniel Location: Wisconsin Watch: 5513 Posts: 1,991	I'm not an expert by any stretch of the imagination but the case looks off. Especially the crown guards.

28 March 2014, 02:11 PM	#13
mike "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 22,683	The hash marks don't go to the edge of the rehaut. A big tell on at least a redone dial.

29 March 2014, 12:09 AM	#14
watchcrank "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Real Name: michael Location: Florida Watch: explorer II cream Posts: 1,661	Same as listed on VRF, movement looks OK, rest fake!

29 March 2014, 01:30 AM	#15
swish77 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Real Name: Aaron Location: CT/NYC Watch: ing the time! Posts: 6,803	GMT hand looks odd, and is not long enough.

29 March 2014, 01:51 AM	#16
marcello pisani "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: italy Posts: 991	blatant example .. of GH hormone treated case ... LLOLLLLLL

29 March 2014, 02:06 AM	#17
adam78 "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Chicago Posts: 1,829	If he picked it up, he can surely set it down again...no? __________________ Cheers, Adam

29 March 2014, 02:49 AM	#18
Vincent65 "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Switzerland Posts: 14,293	case is a joke - dial, hands, bezel too - junk, sorry

29 March 2014, 03:02 AM	#19
Cc1966 "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Real Name: Christopher Location: Georgia, USA Watch: ing the Sea... Posts: 6,713	That dial is horrendous. Is you friend a WIS wantabe? Seems like a grand mistake... __________________ "I wish to have no Connection with any Ship that does not Sail fast for I intend to go in harm's way." Captain John Paul Jones, 16 November 1778 "*Curmudgeons* " Favorites: 1665 SD, Sub Date, DSSD, Exp II, Sub LV, GMTIIc

29 March 2014, 03:05 AM	#20
Suboc "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: At my forge Posts: 494	Thanks everyone who responded... I let him know the consensus. It's as I was thinking from the beginning but just wanted to get a second opinion. I do appreciate your help. Thanks, Daniel Last edited by Suboc; 29 March 2014 at 03:06 AM.. Reason: Typo

29 March 2014, 04:09 AM	#21
mannyv11 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Real Name: Manny Location: MA Watch: DD,Sub,GMT,Daytona Posts: 4,457	wow hopefully he didn't lose his shirt on it, and can get his money back

29 March 2014, 04:14 AM	#22
datejust24 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Real Name: Chris Location: Cincinnati,Ohio Watch: Rolexssss Posts: 3,504	sorry but as stated there are A LOT of issues with this piece...case is completely fake i'd say...hands are wrong, text on dial is wrong...at best its a franken but I would be interested to see what the movement looks like just out of curiosity....

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