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Lots of great info here thanks guys
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Does anyone know, or have an educated guess at, how many 5070P were made?
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Yes it is estimated that 200 or so we're made.
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I think it is a bit Less Ken
They made indeed about 250 per year per color 1998 till 2002, 250 per year in yellow gold ( 4 years so about 1000 pce) 2002 till 2006, 250 per year in white gold ( 4 years so about 1000 pce) 2004 till 2008, 250 per year in red gold ( 4 years so about 1000 pce) Basel 2008 and they introduced the 5070 in platinum, it took some months before the first were delivered and Basel 2009 they told us it was already discontinued. So yes, it was 1 year in the catalog but I believe they only made it a few months. Also know that at the same time they made the 5970P. 5970P also had a very shot run …. but since the 5970 had a much higher list price I wouldn't be surprised that Patek made a lot more 5970P than 5070P …. as you know it contains the same base calibre ( Lémania) and I think they preferred to use these last Lémania based movements for the more expensive watches. If the Lémania stock was low, economically it is better to put it in the more expensive 5970. I contacted SEVERAL AD back then and most of them did not receive a 5070P. My AD got 1 but at the same time he got 2 5970P … So I'm pretty sure they made more 5970P ( For the reason I said earlier) So, we don't know how many 5070P they made but if you allow me to make a guess … I think it will be closer to 100 or 150
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Is there a reason the 5070G more available and cheaper than the other golds? I quite like it but only seen in pics.
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Thanks again for the education.
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Years ago the J was the cheapest and G was the most expensive. But this changes The J is already discontinued 13 years so I would think most flippers are already out the market and most of these are in the hands of real collectors, collectors that treasure their watch. So probably they will never get cheaper.... Why would a real collector flip it?
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Great discussion on the present value of these Lemania based chrono and perpetual chrono watches!
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As far as I know yes.
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Hi guys
Sorry to resurrect a month old thread but I am looking to buy a pre owned 5070p when I find one, so what exactly should the watch come with just so I know? Also, if it is not sealed and has been lightly used, seeing the watch would now be about 7 years old, would you insist on Patek service or not? Many thanks |
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Do all Patek models come with 2 casebacks? Part of the reason I decided I wanted to look into more complicated Patek watches was the lack of the display case back on the 5196P...
Oops sorry read the thread a little closer and saw the 2 caseback thing was only applicable to the chronos. |
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The P version also comes with a small rug to place under your knees when kneeling to pay homage to one of the all time greats.......
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Ohhh boy. The ambiguity is killing me
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A lot of good information here and thanks to Ken and "Gunrnnr" for being so straightforward with your insight!
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Have just picked up on this thread and would be grateful for recommended sources for sealed 5070P's and sealed 5970's.
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As a PS to my post immediately above (which for some reason I don't seem able to edit), I would also be interested to know whether the valuations mentioned are thought to have changed over the last few months (particularly given the price gyrations on the equivalent current models).
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The seller from the weblink is a private seller and I have to say that I am very hesitant about pursuing the purchase of a watch of this value from a private individual. Incidentally the watch that I looked at yesterday did not have an extra solid back. That seems to be correct for a 5070P, but can anyone confirm that ? Also the watch that I looked at was in the standard brown travel box. The serial numbers had been peeled off the box, but from one of the barcode labels I could see that the box did not belong to the watch. Would people regard that as an issue ? I believe the seller to be well known and well regarded, but that did give me a little pause for thought. |
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