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halfmacgas · 16 September 2019, 02:02 PM

Hi all,

Been collecting watches a couple of years and recently got a nice 1999 Swiss only dial 16610.

Im figuring out the lack of AR on the crystal is really disappointing for me! I didn't even know Rolex doesnt use it.

I'm hoping to make a rare exception to my general rule and mod the watch, since I'm mostly using it as a nice tool watch and functionality is key.

Anyone here know if Rolex uses a full AR coating (even if it's just the underside) on any other crystals that could fit the 16610? Alternatively, if anyone is aware of any aftermarket crystals that have AR coating that could fit? Or last resort, I could get a service crystal and see if anyone could add AR to that?

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padi56 · 16 September 2019, 04:22 PM

The only AR coating on any modern Rolex is under the cyclops beneath the crystal not the whole crystal.And will add its pointless having AR on the crystal top surface as its easily marked if marked then it will stand out like a sore thumb.

BigJaJa · 16 September 2019, 04:46 PM

I have an omega that is double treated (both sides of crystal AR coated). Man it is beautiful. Many angles looking at it, it’s as if the crystal isn’t there. Los surprisingly it doesn’t mark. I say this because the case and bezel have lots of dings and scratches but the crystal (touch wood) so far doesn’t.

So if you can get a decent AR treatment then I highly recommend, not sure about modding watches though.

mailman · 16 September 2019, 07:15 PM

Rolex uses double sided AR on the cyclops of the 216570. It can scuff or wear off on top of the cyclops. Ask me how I know

Finslayer83 · 16 September 2019, 11:52 PM

Rolex has them - now can you get one is another story.

Folks have posted the pics of it being in the system, but there is no known use of them in production models.

I'd love inner AR coating as it would bring Rolex into 2019 like everyone else. They won't do it though.

donq · 17 September 2019, 11:04 AM

Buy a crystal and send it out to have the AR applied.

Swap it out and keep the original in case it doesn’t work out...

https://www.nacl.com/industrial-opti...SAAEgLROPD_BwE

othertbone · 17 September 2019, 11:40 AM

Save the mods for your seiko brother!

Dsmith1974 · 17 September 2019, 04:02 PM

Had an Omega POC with double AR.. while the crystal was totally invisible I don’t think it was a good thing at all. Like having a piece missing.

I want to see the crystal. It’s a part of the watch. Catches the light, looks different at different angles all the way from transparent to opaque.

Can’t help thinking that demands for AR and display casebacks or whatnot to ‘catch up’ are missing the point somewhat.

SearChart · 17 September 2019, 04:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mailman

Rolex uses double sided AR on the cyclops of the 216570. It can scuff or wear off on top of the cyclops. Ask me how I know

How do you know?

mailman · 17 September 2019, 07:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SearChart

How do you know?

Johny · 17 September 2019, 07:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by halfmacgas

Hi all,

Been collecting watches a couple of years and recently got a nice 1999 Swiss only dial 16610.

Im figuring out the lack of AR on the crystal is really disappointing for me! I didn't even know Rolex doesnt use it.

I'm hoping to make a rare exception to my general rule and mod the watch, since I'm mostly using it as a nice tool watch and functionality is key.

Anyone here know if Rolex uses a full AR coating (even if it's just the underside) on any other crystals that could fit the 16610? Alternatively, if anyone is aware of any aftermarket crystals that have AR coating that could fit? Or last resort, I could get a service crystal and see if anyone could add AR to that?

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Have a look in the modified rolex thread. There might be something in it.

jaisonline · 17 September 2019, 07:42 PM

The last two 5 digit watches I’ve sent to Rolex (Dallas & NYC) needed their crystals replaced. Both were replaced with AR coated ones. I didn’t ask for AR but did notice it stated on the service quote. E.g.
“SAPPHIRE CRYSTAL D29.5 1.8 CYCLOPS ANTI-REFL &GASK. $180)

For me, having it on 1 side is good enough. Big welcomed difference between especially for the date.

e dantes · 17 September 2019, 08:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jaisonline

The last two 5 digit watches I’ve sent to Rolex (Dallas & NYC) needed their crystals replaced. Both were replaced with AR coated ones. I didn’t ask for AR but did notice it stated on the service quote. E.g.
“SAPPHIRE CRYSTAL D29.5 1.8 CYCLOPS ANTI-REFL &GASK. $180)

For me, having it on 1 side is good enough. Big welcomed difference between especially for the date.

I believe that AR is just on the cyclops.

I have a watch from another brand with AR. It makes the crystal almost invisible from many angles. I like this as it puts the focus on the dial and hands. If done well, which Rolex certainly could do, it enhances the watch (in my opinion).

halfmacgas · 17 September 2019, 08:23 PM

Yeah honestly I much prefer the AR. I had a Hamilton before which I loved except for the lack of AR. I have had somwhere around 20 or 30 watches in the last couple of Years so far and am starting to know what I prefer. I've tried looking at the Rolex with my polaroid sunglasses on which is supposed to be like having AR, and prefer the look. I just want to figure out how to get high quality AR that's worthy of the watch. And honestly I wouldn't care if it scratched up a lot, I would be OK with even just changing the crystal out every few years to keep it fresh, I just get annoyed by the reflections with so much gloss on the dial already

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Johny · 17 September 2019, 09:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by halfmacgas

Yeah honestly I much prefer the AR. I had a Hamilton before which I loved except for the lack of AR. I have had somwhere around 20 or 30 watches in the last couple of Years so far and am starting to know what I prefer. I've tried looking at the Rolex with my polaroid sunglasses on which is supposed to be like having AR, and prefer the look. I just want to figure out how to get high quality AR that's worthy of the watch. And honestly I wouldn't care if it scratched up a lot, I would be OK with even just changing the crystal out every few years to keep it fresh, I just get annoyed by the reflections with so much gloss on the dial already

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Hi

Perhaps you could ask at camera or optician shops.

Finslayer83 · 17 September 2019, 09:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by othertbone

Save the mods for your seiko brother!

Why? My Rolex mods have been far more enjoyable than any seiko mods.

16 September 2019, 02:02 PM	#1
halfmacgas "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2018 Location: US Posts: 9	Adding AR crystal 16610 Hi all, Been collecting watches a couple of years and recently got a nice 1999 Swiss only dial 16610. Im figuring out the lack of AR on the crystal is really disappointing for me! I didn't even know Rolex doesnt use it. I'm hoping to make a rare exception to my general rule and mod the watch, since I'm mostly using it as a nice tool watch and functionality is key. Anyone here know if Rolex uses a full AR coating (even if it's just the underside) on any other crystals that could fit the 16610? Alternatively, if anyone is aware of any aftermarket crystals that have AR coating that could fit? Or last resort, I could get a service crystal and see if anyone could add AR to that? Sent from my SM-G975U1 using Tapatalk

16 September 2019, 04:22 PM	#2
padi56 "TRF" Life Patron Join Date: Jun 2005 Real Name: Peter Location: Llanfairpwllgwyng Watch: ing you. Posts: 52,269	The only AR coating on any modern Rolex is under the cyclops beneath the crystal not the whole crystal.And will add its pointless having AR on the crystal top surface as its easily marked if marked then it will stand out like a sore thumb. __________________ ICom Pro3 All posts are my own opinion and my opinion only. "The clock of life is wound but once, and no man has the power to tell just when the hands will stop. Now is the only time you actually own the time, Place no faith in time, for the clock may soon be still for ever." Good Judgement comes from experience,experience comes from Bad Judgement,.Buy quality, cry once; buy cheap, cry again and again. www.mc0yad.club Second in command CEO and left handed watch winder

16 September 2019, 07:15 PM	#4
mailman TRF Moderator & DATE-JUST41 2024 Patron Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: . Watch: 126610LN Posts: 35,363	Rolex uses double sided AR on the cyclops of the 216570. It can scuff or wear off on top of the cyclops. Ask me how I know __________________ JJ

16 September 2019, 04:46 PM	#3
BigJaJa "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Spain Posts: 18	I have an omega that is double treated (both sides of crystal AR coated). Man it is beautiful. Many angles looking at it, it’s as if the crystal isn’t there. Los surprisingly it doesn’t mark. I say this because the case and bezel have lots of dings and scratches but the crystal (touch wood) so far doesn’t. So if you can get a decent AR treatment then I highly recommend, not sure about modding watches though.

16 September 2019, 11:52 PM	#5
Finslayer83 "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2017 Location: Tennessee Watch: DW-5600 Posts: 1,584	Rolex has them - now can you get one is another story. Folks have posted the pics of it being in the system, but there is no known use of them in production models. I'd love inner AR coating as it would bring Rolex into 2019 like everyone else. They won't do it though.

17 September 2019, 11:04 AM	#6
donq "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Dallas tx Watch: 16610,1675,16030 Posts: 1,135	Buy a crystal and send it out to have the AR applied. Swap it out and keep the original in case it doesn’t work out... https://www.nacl.com/industrial-opti...SAAEgLROPD_BwE

17 September 2019, 11:40 AM	#7
othertbone Banned Join Date: Nov 2018 Location: Florida, USA Watch: Rolex/AP/Vin Omega Posts: 1,972	Save the mods for your seiko brother!

17 September 2019, 04:02 PM	#8
Dsmith1974 "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2018 Real Name: Duncan Location: London Watch: DD 40 Posts: 2,262	Had an Omega POC with double AR.. while the crystal was totally invisible I don’t think it was a good thing at all. Like having a piece missing. I want to see the crystal. It’s a part of the watch. Catches the light, looks different at different angles all the way from transparent to opaque. Can’t help thinking that demands for AR and display casebacks or whatnot to ‘catch up’ are missing the point somewhat.

17 September 2019, 07:42 PM	#12
jaisonline 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: USA Watch: 5 digit models Posts: 1,515	The last two 5 digit watches I’ve sent to Rolex (Dallas & NYC) needed their crystals replaced. Both were replaced with AR coated ones. I didn’t ask for AR but did notice it stated on the service quote. E.g. “SAPPHIRE CRYSTAL D29.5 1.8 CYCLOPS ANTI-REFL &GASK. $180) For me, having it on 1 side is good enough. Big welcomed difference between especially for the date.

17 September 2019, 08:23 PM	#14
halfmacgas "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2018 Location: US Posts: 9	Yeah honestly I much prefer the AR. I had a Hamilton before which I loved except for the lack of AR. I have had somwhere around 20 or 30 watches in the last couple of Years so far and am starting to know what I prefer. I've tried looking at the Rolex with my polaroid sunglasses on which is supposed to be like having AR, and prefer the look. I just want to figure out how to get high quality AR that's worthy of the watch. And honestly I wouldn't care if it scratched up a lot, I would be OK with even just changing the crystal out every few years to keep it fresh, I just get annoyed by the reflections with so much gloss on the dial already Sent from my SM-G975U1 using Tapatalk

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