JNOV reneged on a deal.

[WatchTimes]

PS
This is a feedback forum, good or bad... It does not say only post good feedback.
If you are going to edit my thread you need to edit the title of EVERY thread...

So and So saying one member is a great guy, terrific or whatever is just an opinion like my threads title was and I fully explained in my post why he is a flake just like people explain why they think one member is terrific or whatever.

Editing the title changes the entire thread and also puts other members at risk as people check here before finalizing the sale but not all read the entire feedback post. Someone may read the title and assume he is a great guy and then due to the mods editing my post he very well could end up wasting another members time.

[diablojota]

Originally Posted by JYogi

PS
This is a feedback forum, good or bad... It does not say only post good feedback.
If you are going to edit my thread you need to edit the title of EVERY thread...

So and So saying one member is a great guy, terrific or whatever is just an opinion like my threads title was and I fully explained in my post why he is a flake just like people explain why they think one member is terrific or whatever.

Editing the title changes the entire thread and also puts other members at risk as people check here before finalizing the sale but not all read the entire feedback post. Someone may read the title and assume he is a great guy and then due to the mods editing my post he very well could end up wasting another members time.

I'm in agreement with you here. I don't believe that the title should have been amended.

[diablojota]

And I'm going to add to this and say that the original title of the thread should be replaced as that is the view that was presented by the OP (JYogi - Jeremy) who is also a paying member of the forum as well.

[WatchTimes]

Thanks for the support guys!

[diablojota]

I'll say that I do understand modifying certain details of a post title when people do not RTFT, as we had that issue a while back. I think that's perfectly acceptable, but modifying the title of a reference or Who's Who title seems a little bit like overreaching or over-stretching. No offense to you Paul. Just was a little taken aback by this.

[Wolfgang427]

Originally Posted by JYogi

PS
This is a feedback forum, good or bad... It does not say only post good feedback.
If you are going to edit my thread you need to edit the title of EVERY thread...

So and So saying one member is a great guy, terrific or whatever is just an opinion like my threads title was and I fully explained in my post why he is a flake just like people explain why they think one member is terrific or whatever.

Editing the title changes the entire thread and also puts other members at risk as people check here before finalizing the sale but not all read the entire feedback post. Someone may read the title and assume he is a great guy and then due to the mods editing my post he very well could end up wasting another members time.

I agree with you 100% If the shoe was on the other foot and you sold the watch he said he was buying without you telling him then you would be cast as the evil seller on this forum. Editing your OP is wrong and sends out the wrong message that this is nothing to get excited about and perfectly normal to do and get away with.

[WatchTimes]

Wolfgang you brought up a GREAT point I didn't even realize.
If I had something for sale, someone said theyd buy it at my asking
price and then I went and sold it for more elsewhere I would be marked as
EVIL (as one should be) but its funny how this isn't being seen this way.

I really do hope the mods will chime back in.

The more I think about this the more unhappy I am.

[springer]

Originally Posted by diablojota

And I'm going to add to this and say that the original title of the thread should be replaced as that is the view that was presented by the OP (JYogi - Jeremy) who is also a paying member of the forum as well.

I agree. I think Jyogi is entitled to his opinion and this is why this section was added to the classifieds in the first place. Good deals or bad deals...let's hear what you have to say about deals done here on the forum. The title change has made the thread totally misleading.

[scottschoe]

The topic's title should NOT have been changed. wtf?

[Bebot]

Originally Posted by diablojota

I'm in agreement with you here. I don't believe that the title should have been amended.

I am not on the sellers or the buyers side because I don't really know what happen. However, I do agree with you and JYogi for amending the title. It is misleading. If JNOV really at fault, then he should come out and apologize and straight things out. If not, then he should defend himself.

[Mosco]

I think the OP title should be changed back, just my twopence.

[chenx15]

i'm a flaker so i know a flaker when i read one.

[diablojota]

Originally Posted by chenx15

i'm a flaker so i know a flaker when i read one.

Well at least you can admit it.

[kcmo]

Another vote that the title should be changed back IMO

[Bebot]

Originally Posted by chenx15

i'm a flaker so i know a flaker when i read one.

YEAP! Takes one to know one.

[diablojota]

Title has been changed. Still doesn't quite capture the essence of the initial, but is getting closer.

[Welshwatchman]

"JNOV reneged on a deal" - That's the new title.

I am not happy with an member being branded anything unless they have scammed another member and left them thousands out of pocket, even then they are alleged scammers or scumbuckets.

To label someone as a goon, a flake, a lowlife, a bum. I'm just not happy with it and I don't really care if everyone else is cool about such labeling.

[Imtiaz]

It's getting a bit loud.

[ijen0311]

Fair enough.

[Gedanken]

Paul's spot-on. The title describes the nature of the transaction between the seller and the buyer, which is the raison d'etre of this section of the forum. Labelling members, however, is not the raison d'etre of this section of the forum.

[ijen0311]

Originally Posted by Gedanken

Paul's spot-on. The title describes the nature of the transaction between the seller and the buyer, which is the raison d'etre of this section of the forum. Labelling members, however, is not the raison d'etre of this section of the forum.

James why you usin' them foreign words there?

[Mosco]

It is a fair compromise, IMHO

[WatchTimes]

That's fine but I am sorry
I will no longer continue to contribute or be an active member
in this board.

I hope sticking up for someone simply because they donated a
few bucks was worth loosing a member who donated to the board
with quality posts and information as well contributed the past two
years.

JNov is a SPINELESS FLAKE. If he wasn't he would
have been man enough to stand up for himself here.

I will still stop in to read messages from time to time but I will no
longer be participating in a board that edits it's members when it
comes to something like this.

Good luck to all and thanks to all of those people who aren't sitting
back wearing Rose colored glasses looking at the computer screen.

The mods have made their choice and that's fine it is their right to
handle their board the way they want as this obviously is not the
members board and this post proves that.

[Welshwatchman]

Originally Posted by JYogi

That's fine but I am sorry
I will no longer continue to contribute or be an active member
in this board.

Fair enough.

It's your choice.

[WatchTimes]

PS
I feel sorry for the next person whose time is wasted
by this FLAKE (and trust me it will happen again).
When it happens then it will not be JNov or the other
parties fault but I will leave it there............

[diablojota]

I think the compromise is acceptable. Name calling is a little rough. But why are we talking about raisins?

[Welshwatchman]

Originally Posted by JYogi

PS
I feel sorry for the next person whose time is wasted
by this FLAKE (and trust me it will happen again).
When it happens then it will not be JNov or the other
parties fault but I will leave it there............

Done. If you want your pledge refunded then ask Steve and I'll make good on the refund when it's done.

Hopefully all such posts in the future will start with "Problem with <member>" and not insults or slating.

Then the rules will have been adhered to. I know that only 15% actually read them since I performed a poll a while back.

Rules to obey:

1. By posting here, you agree that others may contact you regarding your post, including to verify the accuracy of any information you post.

2. Shilling and false or exaggerated posts are strictly prohibited. You may not post in relation to any seller or buyer who you have any direct or indirect financial or business interest or association (such as if you are the employee of an e-bay seller).

3. Posts that do not otherwise comply with the general Rolex Forums guidelines and rules shall at the moderation team's final discretion be removed, together with any other action that may be considered appropriate. No name calling or insults. If you've had a bad experience with delays, postponements or cancellations please just state the facts as you see them.

4. This forum and its contents is subject to modification/change/deletion at the sole discretion of the moderators/administrators. Please remember, you do not own your posts/threads they will be subject to moderators/administrators veto.

5. The forum makes no statement express, implied or otherwise as to the accuracy of any fact or matter whatsoever stated in any of the posts/threads in this forum, and each person is responsible for making their own independent enquiries and making any decision to buy or sell without any entitlement to rely upon any matter stated on this forum in the event that they may suffer loss or damage.

[Mosco]

Paul,

Honestly, don't you see that you're standing up for a member who hasn't even had the decency to come and defend himself on this thread? I think it is honorable of you that you're not allowing a member to be called names, and i do see your good intentions, so don't take offense to this. I just think if you're drawing parallels, Jeremy has given a wealth of knowledge to this forum - forget the monetary contributions. The other guy - not so much. I, for one, would hate to lose JYogi. Again, I am quite aware that this is not a democracy, but don't think that sitting quiet is an option.

[Welshwatchman]

I am standing up for the rules, not the member.

The next "<Insert member here> is a flake/goon/idiot/scumbag etc" thread that I see I will delete and issue infraction points.

Rules to obey:


3. Posts that do not otherwise comply with the general Rolex Forums guidelines and rules shall at the moderation team's final discretion be removed, together with any other action that may be considered appropriate. No name calling or insults. If you've had a bad experience with delays, postponements or cancellations please just state the facts as you see them.

[ijen0311]

JYogi, please don't leave. Your friends here will miss you