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Old 19 October 2020, 05:42 PM   #31
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Well, you better do some research, it’s definitely not a maxi dial.
It’s a serif dial, so your dial is from before 1975 and your case is from 1979, so it’s put together from parts.
I hope you have to possibility to unwind the trade.

Look on this website to educate yourself...
http://www.5513mattedial.com/Serifs.html
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Old 19 October 2020, 05:45 PM   #32
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Buddy. Sorry but this Is not a maxi dial.

Maxi mk1 is the only maxi version where the depth rating is above the submariner text. And this is categorically not a maxi mk1.

All other Maxis (2/3/4/5) have submariner above the depth rating.

Its also not a pre comex dial because the ‘=‘ should be to the left of the A, yours is to the right hand side

I believe you have a non serif dial, which should sit in a case with ‘serial numbers beginning in the early/mid 2.0 million range up until about 1973 consistent with cases stamped in the late 3.0 million range to early 4.0 million range’.

So something is very wrong here. I would 100% go back to the seller and ask for an explanation.
Thanks for your explanation, I'm still happy with the watch, the serial number is in the Mid 5mil range, the punch hole paperwork has the same serial number as does the green hang tag
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Old 19 October 2020, 05:45 PM   #33
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Here is my Maci mk1 as comparison.
As you can see they are clearly not the same




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Old 19 October 2020, 05:46 PM   #34
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Thanks for your explanation, I'm still happy with the watch, the serial number is in the Mid 5mil range, the punch hole paperwork has the same serial number as does the green hang tag

Understood. But the dial is not correct for the case and it’s corresponding serial numbers (and ‘papers’)
As stated above this is not a true watch. It has been cobbled together.
You shouldn’t allow the seller to incorrectly advertise and sell this to you.
Mind sharing where this is from??

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Old 19 October 2020, 06:05 PM   #35
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I can see now, thanks for sharing. I will go back and tell him, I doubt he would refund tho
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Old 19 October 2020, 06:34 PM   #36
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I would definitely bring it back, a watch like this is only worth what your getting for it selling its parts, or try to find the correct dial, but finding a Maxi mk1 dial is a big challenge.
Your first “birth year” Rolex should be all correct, not a franken...
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Old 19 October 2020, 11:07 PM   #37
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I believe you have a non serif dial, which should sit in a case with ‘serial numbers beginning in the early/mid 2.0 million range up until about 1973 consistent with cases stamped in the late 3.0 million range to early 4.0 million range’.
OP's watch has a serif dial, as noted by shift7. The middle stroke in the "E" in Rolex is the clue, in addition to the serif peeking out from the corners of some of the lume plots. Would be unusual to see that style of dial in a Sub well into the 5 mil. serials.
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Old 19 October 2020, 11:13 PM   #38
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OP's watch has a serif dial, as noted by shift7. The middle stroke in the "E" in Rolex is the clue, in addition to the serif peeking out from the corners of some of the lume plots. Would be unusual to see that style of dial in a Sub well into the 5 mil. serials.
Good point buddy. Missed that but guess I was working off the original YouTube video and focussed purely on it NOT being a maxi mk1.
Just hope the OP does follow this up with his seller. Upsets me to see people get stung like this.
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Old 19 October 2020, 11:16 PM   #39
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Thanks for your explanation, I'm still happy with the watch, the serial number is in the Mid 5mil range, the punch hole paperwork has the same serial number as does the green hang tag
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I can see now, thanks for sharing. I will go back and tell him, I doubt he would refund tho
If the case has a 5M number matching the papers, then the watch is a Frankenwatch, as mentioned by others, since the dial is much earlier. It is therefore only worth a fraction of what you presumably paid (since Maxi Mk1 watches are not cheap), and I don't think you should be happy about that. I also don't think the seller should be allowed to get away with fraud. This watch is put together from parts of different watches in an attempt to deceive, it is not even a situation where the original dial was replaced by an authentic service dial.
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Old 19 October 2020, 11:55 PM   #40
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Thanks for your explanation, I'm still happy with the watch, the serial number is in the Mid 5mil range, the punch hole paperwork has the same serial number as does the green hang tag

Papers hang tag etc match the case (“Group Of Stuff”). Dial is different from this Group Of Stuff.

Seller appears to not know what he had or was ‘uncareful’ in his representations of same.
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Old 19 October 2020, 11:56 PM   #41
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I can see now, thanks for sharing. I will go back and tell him, I doubt he would refund tho

Identify the seller.
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Old 20 October 2020, 12:55 AM   #42
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Well, this thread took a 180....
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Old 20 October 2020, 12:57 AM   #43
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Just catching up on all these comments, I'm assured by the legit watchmaker I bought it from, the watch is a a Maxi Dial, here's a snippet from the original Advert on the company page
never been overhauled nor serviced with no screwdriver marks or signs internal screws have been removed Serial Number: 5686xxx. 40mm case size. Sporadic use only. Tritium maxi dial
seems you've been misled....
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Old 20 October 2020, 01:04 AM   #44
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Nice one, Congrats!
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Old 20 October 2020, 01:08 AM   #45
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Nice one, Congrats!

seems as though you may have skipped over a few posts in this thread.
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Old 20 October 2020, 01:09 AM   #46
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I can see now, thanks for sharing. I will go back and tell him, I doubt he would refund tho

Who’s the seller.
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Old 20 October 2020, 03:08 AM   #47
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You’re better off with a service dial than a serif dial in that case.

If you paid mk1 money, you should definitely bring it to the sellers attention.

This is more serious than you think. Should tell us the seller so it won’t happen again.


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Old 20 October 2020, 03:41 AM   #48
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You’re better off with a service dial than a serif dial in that case.

If you paid mk1 money, you should definitely bring it to the sellers attention.

This is more serious than you think. Should tell us the seller so it won’t happen again.
I agree that it's a serious issue regarding the seller, and that he should return it, if at all possible. However, I would rather have that dial than a service dial, because it has some real value. If necessary, he can sell that dial to partially finance a Maxi dial purchase.
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Old 20 October 2020, 03:42 AM   #49
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Ask asap for refund...normal serif dial, awful hands and despite that I do not see a lot, pretty sure it's not unpolished...
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Old 20 October 2020, 04:01 AM   #50
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The seller has clearly mislead the buyer.
The OP seemed to imply the watch was ‘advertised as being xyz’ so if there is an online description, you have proof of fraud in writing.
OP: Please send us the link to the dealers website/let us know who the seller is and please WHATEVER YOU DO, return the watch and demand a refund.
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Old 20 October 2020, 04:03 AM   #51
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the seller has clearly mislead the buyer.
The op seemed to imply the watch was ‘advertised as being xyz’ so if there is an online description, you have proof of fraud in writing.
Op: Please send us the link to the dealers website/let us know who the seller is and please whatever you do, return the watch and demand a refund.
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Old 20 October 2020, 04:25 AM   #52
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I agree that it's a serious issue regarding the seller, and that he should return it, if at all possible. However, I would rather have that dial than a service dial, because it has some real value. If necessary, he can sell that dial to partially finance a Maxi dial purchase.

What I meant to say is at least a service dial would make it all period correct.

But yes you’re right a serif dial at least worth money.


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Old 20 October 2020, 04:43 AM   #53
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Congratulation! Are you going to have it serviced any time in the future?
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Old 20 October 2020, 05:27 AM   #54
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Congratulation! Are you going to have it serviced any time in the future?
Did you mean “returned any time in the future”?
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Old 20 October 2020, 09:10 AM   #55
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I hope the op gets a refund here and it would be great to know who the seller was so that the rest of us can avoid him.


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Old 20 October 2020, 04:08 PM   #56
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Sorry that your enthusiasm was curbed but its better to know.

Basically, the dial comes from an earlier Sub and was put in a 1979 case that had a full set = higher price!
Be glad that you posted here and the experienced guys picked up on it.

Refund it and tell us who was the seller. If it was someone who didn't know and was previously scammed....it is one thing, if its a dealer...we have a problem. We have seen more and more cases with “doctored” watches lately. Some come from dealers we know and used to trust.
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Old 21 October 2020, 03:28 AM   #57
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It is such a beauty
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Old 21 October 2020, 03:55 AM   #58
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Did you read this thread at all?
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Old 21 October 2020, 04:10 AM   #59
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Did you read this thread at all?

Probably the first post


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Old 21 October 2020, 04:39 AM   #60
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***MY FIRST ROLEX*** 5513 Unpolished '79

Have you posted HQ pics of the case, serial etc? How do you know this isn’t a fake watch built to match the papers?

If the back story is BS you could have much more to worry about than the dial.

Post the seller so people can avoid getting screwed over too.
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