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rmlovett1 · 10 May 2018, 09:49 PM

I’ve read and researched over the years about Red Sub dials and imperfections.
Am I still in the “right thought process” here?
Case is very strong, history known with RSC paperwork, etc...

But...dial has imperfections on the edge...small chip or peeling, that affects the black paint or hash marks...that isn’t very visible when wearing, or to the eye, (but they’re there)....
Then this is acceptable?
If you’re not looking for a safe queen/highly collectible

Ex:....between the 57-59 markers visible when magnified in certain light/angles...but not really visible when looking through normal vision or wearing scenarios...
Thoughts appreciated:)

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Vincent65 · 10 May 2018, 11:03 PM

I think that's a great looking MKIV 1680 RED. Nice patina and plenty of character. Excellent case, and bracelet, and a killer bezel insert. The slight imperfections at the edge of the dial are common (from servicing), and pretty minor. If price reflects this, I see no reason to pass it by, especially with RSC provenance.

Chunky · 10 May 2018, 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Vincent65

I think that's a great looking MKIV 1680 RED. Nice patina and plenty of character. Excellent case, and bracelet, and a killer bezel insert. The slight imperfections at the edge of the dial are common (from servicing), and pretty minor. If price reflects this, I see no reason to pass it by, especially with RSC provenance.

I think the watch is very nice as well. Good luck!

rmlovett1 · 10 May 2018, 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Vincent65

I think that's a great looking MKIV 1680 RED. Nice patina and plenty of character. Excellent case, and bracelet, and a killer bezel insert. The slight imperfections at the edge of the dial are common (from servicing), and pretty minor. If price reflects this, I see no reason to pass it by, especially with RSC provenance.

Thank you so much

yes, RSC serviced in ‘15. Paperwork included. only thing I had changed was the pearl. RSC replaced the original lost one, so I had the seller replace with an appropriate “patina” tritium pearl.

rmlovett1 · 10 May 2018, 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Chunky

I think the watch is very nice as well. Good luck!

Appreciated Charles, thank you.

Frogman4me · 10 May 2018, 11:37 PM

Looks like a great MKIV red sub to me. Love the patina and stunning MKIII insert.

rmlovett1 · 10 May 2018, 11:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Frogman4me

Looks like a great MKIV red sub to me. Love the patina and stunning MKIII insert.

Thank you

lhanddds · 10 May 2018, 11:45 PM

Hey Richard, I pretty much concur with Karl (Vincent65) and David (Frogman4me) on this one. Love the patina and insert. I know there is chipping but I would not let that bother me if the price is right. Good looking sub.

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rmlovett1 · 10 May 2018, 11:47 PM

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Originally Posted by lhanddds

Hey Richard, I pretty much concur with Karl (Vincent65) and David (Frogman4me) on this one. Love the patina and insert. I know there is chipping but I would not let that bother me if the price is right. Good looking sub.

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Appreciated Larry:)

swish77 · 11 May 2018, 01:16 AM

Overall a great-looking red 1680. The slight dial chip at the edge is indeed minor, but I would definitely use it as a bargaining point. If you ever decide to sell it, that could be an issue with some collectors. The case appears to be beautifully re-finished. Great crown guards.

Have you done a UV/blacklight test on the dial/hands lume? The tritium on the hour plots looks unevenly patina'd at some angles, but I assume it's just naturally aging like that.

I see a couple of other marks maybe on the dial, but perhaps they're just on the crystal: a scratch just below the 11 o'clock hour marker, and what looks like a blemish to the right of the Rolex crown. If those are on the dial, they'd bug me. If they're on the crystal, non-issue, of course.

Good luck!

rmlovett1 · 11 May 2018, 02:40 AM

On the wrist

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rmlovett1 · 11 May 2018, 02:45 AM

Another

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antbkny · 11 May 2018, 02:47 AM

so nice

twnturbo · 11 May 2018, 02:57 AM

Nice patina

rmlovett1 · 11 May 2018, 03:15 AM

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so nice

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Originally Posted by twnturbo

Nice patina

Thank you gentlemen!

steversaurus · 11 May 2018, 03:16 AM

If it doesn't bother you and the price is right, go for it. Seen much worse chipping.

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1675-David · 11 May 2018, 03:37 AM

can only agree with the comments above, wear and enjoy

braith · 11 May 2018, 03:56 AM

I also find it really nice as well, looks great on your wrist.

mrj115 · 11 May 2018, 05:20 AM

Awesome find!

rmlovett1 · 11 May 2018, 05:23 AM

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Originally Posted by steversaurus

If it doesn't bother you and the price is right, go for it. Seen much worse chipping.

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Originally Posted by 1675-David

can only agree with the comments above, wear and enjoy

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Originally Posted by braith

I also find it really nice as well, looks great on your wrist.

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Originally Posted by mrj115

Awesome find!

thank men! I appreciate it!

albaserver · 11 May 2018, 05:58 PM

Bracelet is later... but who cares?!?! Looks so good :) Insert fat font turned blue, nice patina... I love it.

CPRWATCH · 11 May 2018, 07:02 PM

What a beauty . I would love to find one in such great condition , & even better if you actually going to wear it .

fskywalker · 12 May 2018, 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Richris1

On the wrist

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That’s a beauty Richard

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rmlovett1 · 12 May 2018, 11:22 PM

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That’s a beauty Richard

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Appreciate it Francisco!

Boaters · 13 May 2018, 03:36 AM

I am not a JP on vintage but it sure looks nice to me congrats!

Kingface66 · 13 May 2018, 05:00 AM

Man, that blue in that insert is just amazing!

rmlovett1 · 13 May 2018, 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Boaters

I am not a JP on vintage but it sure looks nice to me congrats!

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Originally Posted by Kingface66

Man, that blue in that insert is just amazing!

Thanks guys! And yes...the insert is a beaut!

Watchesnyc106 · 19 May 2018, 05:31 PM

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Pavlos · 2 June 2018, 09:11 PM

That is stunning

benzng · 3 June 2018, 10:24 AM

that is a nice watch. I am also looking at a nice red 1680 but the price is the one making me back off :)

10 May 2018, 09:49 PM	#1
rmlovett1 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Sep 2015 Real Name: Richard Location: GA Watch: YTBD Posts: 22,457	Thoughts on red Sub dial I’ve read and researched over the years about Red Sub dials and imperfections. Am I still in the “right thought process” here? Case is very strong, history known with RSC paperwork, etc... But...dial has imperfections on the edge...small chip or peeling, that affects the black paint or hash marks...that isn’t very visible when wearing, or to the eye, (but they’re there).... Then this is acceptable? If you’re not looking for a safe queen/highly collectible Ex:....between the 57-59 markers visible when magnified in certain light/angles...but not really visible when looking through normal vision or wearing scenarios... Thoughts appreciated:) Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

10 May 2018, 11:03 PM	#2
Vincent65 "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Switzerland Posts: 14,293	I think that's a great looking MKIV 1680 RED. Nice patina and plenty of character. Excellent case, and bracelet, and a killer bezel insert. The slight imperfections at the edge of the dial are common (from servicing), and pretty minor. If price reflects this, I see no reason to pass it by, especially with RSC provenance. __________________

11 May 2018, 02:57 AM	#14
twnturbo "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: SoCal Watch: 1675 GMT/1680 MKIV Posts: 319	Nice patina __________________ Rolex 1680 Red Submariner MKIV Full set Rolex 1675 Pepsi GMT Full set Rolex 1675 GMT Radial dial Full set TAG Heuer Carrera Chronograph Day Date Bell & Ross BR03-92

11 May 2018, 05:58 PM	#21
albaserver "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2018 Location: Milan Posts: 170	Bracelet is later... but who cares?!?! Looks so good :) Insert fat font turned blue, nice patina... I love it. __________________ Ro! Instagram: @albaserver

10 May 2018, 11:37 PM	#6
Frogman4me Banned Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Maryland Posts: 6,268	Looks like a great MKIV red sub to me. Love the patina and stunning MKIII insert.

10 May 2018, 11:45 PM	#8
lhanddds Banned Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: USA Watch: of course Posts: 8,429	Hey Richard, I pretty much concur with Karl (Vincent65) and David (Frogman4me) on this one. Love the patina and insert. I know there is chipping but I would not let that bother me if the price is right. Good looking sub. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

11 May 2018, 01:16 AM	#10
swish77 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Real Name: Aaron Location: CT/NYC Watch: ing the time! Posts: 6,789	Overall a great-looking red 1680. The slight dial chip at the edge is indeed minor, but I would definitely use it as a bargaining point. If you ever decide to sell it, that could be an issue with some collectors. The case appears to be beautifully re-finished. Great crown guards. Have you done a UV/blacklight test on the dial/hands lume? The tritium on the hour plots looks unevenly patina'd at some angles, but I assume it's just naturally aging like that. I see a couple of other marks maybe on the dial, but perhaps they're just on the crystal: a scratch just below the 11 o'clock hour marker, and what looks like a blemish to the right of the Rolex crown. If those are on the dial, they'd bug me. If they're on the crystal, non-issue, of course. Good luck!

11 May 2018, 02:40 AM	#11
rmlovett1 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Sep 2015 Real Name: Richard Location: GA Watch: YTBD Posts: 22,457	On the wrist Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

11 May 2018, 02:45 AM	#12
rmlovett1 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Sep 2015 Real Name: Richard Location: GA Watch: YTBD Posts: 22,457	Another Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

11 May 2018, 02:47 AM	#13
antbkny "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Real Name: Anthony Location: Brooklyn, NY Watch: Dblue Posts: 6,723	so nice

11 May 2018, 03:16 AM	#16
steversaurus "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: Vancouver Posts: 154	If it doesn't bother you and the price is right, go for it. Seen much worse chipping. Sent from my Pixel using Tapatalk

11 May 2018, 03:37 AM	#17
1675-David "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Stockholm Posts: 6,010	can only agree with the comments above, wear and enjoy

11 May 2018, 03:56 AM	#18
braith Banned Join Date: Nov 2016 Real Name: brad Location: houston Watch: Hulk/Daytona/AP Posts: 32	I also find it really nice as well, looks great on your wrist.

11 May 2018, 05:20 AM	#19
mrj115 "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: SF Posts: 39	Awesome find!

11 May 2018, 07:02 PM	#22
CPRWATCH "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2016 Real Name: Paul Location: Chester UK Watch: Rolex GMT Master Posts: 4,592	What a beauty . I would love to find one in such great condition , & even better if you actually going to wear it .

13 May 2018, 03:36 AM	#25
Boaters 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: May 2015 Real Name: Mike Location: Pacific Northwest Watch: 116610LV 16710 SD Posts: 10,649	I am not a JP on vintage but it sure looks nice to me congrats!

13 May 2018, 05:00 AM	#26
Kingface66 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: The Empire State Watch: 1966 Rolex 5513 Posts: 3,414	Man, that blue in that insert is just amazing!

19 May 2018, 05:31 PM	#28
Watchesnyc106 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2018 Posts: 19	Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

2 June 2018, 09:11 PM	#29
Pavlos "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2017 Location: London Posts: 760	That is stunning

3 June 2018, 10:24 AM	#30
benzng "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2015 Real Name: Benson Location: ASIA Posts: 264	that is a nice watch. I am also looking at a nice red 1680 but the price is the one making me back off :)

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