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alexkarbo · 25 May 2018, 01:25 AM

Greetings,

I'm thinking of purchasing this 16013 DJ. Seller send me these so very clear pictures. How's the case in your opinion does it look over polished?

Thank you!

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Richard Carver · 25 May 2018, 02:11 AM

Clasp coronet on the bottom is too round, bracelet is maybe a fake. Need more and better pics of the watch, inside the case as well. Bracelet makes the whole watch suspect.

alexkarbo · 25 May 2018, 02:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Richard Carver

Clasp coronet on the bottom is too round, bracelet is maybe a fake. Need more and better pics of the watch, inside the case as well. Bracelet makes the whole watch suspect.

I was not suspecting the bracelet or movement but here are a few other pictures I got from the owner. I put more lighting using a photo editing program and the clasp reads 62523H 18

Richard Carver · 25 May 2018, 04:30 AM

Really couldn't get enough detail on the bracelet but the deal killer for me is the case corrosion. This is what you want to see...

...the case back should be corrosion free as well. Also, check between the lugs.

alexkarbo · 25 May 2018, 10:05 PM

I thought the black inside the case was rubber gasket residue. I'll have a look into that thank you.

Richard Carver · 25 May 2018, 11:07 PM

This isn't gasket residue either...

DJs are the multitaskers of Rolex. Spear fishing in the morning, dinner out at night, changing baby in the middle. These old DJs were bought by people who wanted one watch that would do everything and that included a lot of diving over many years for some.

No one cleaned a watch in those days they were just a tool. Rolex recommended rinsing after seawater and if people did anything that was it. Some corroded cases result from acidic perspiration but the sea is the main culprit.

The OP's watch is a fairly light case but it never stops and you can never trust water resistance again. Valuable collector watches get acid treated and then welded and polished back to perfection, old DJs not so much.

There are plenty of clean case vintage Rolex, just make the effort to find one.

alexkarbo · 25 May 2018, 11:15 PM

The effort I did do hoping to find one for a good price. This was 2.4k which was pretty reasonable IMO. I'll go have a look at the watch which is a few hours drive from my place. I'm still not convince with those pictures that it might not be oxidation but gasket gunk. I'll report back

Thank you

25 May 2018, 01:25 AM	#1
alexkarbo "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: canada Posts: 136	Datejust...What do you think? Greetings, I'm thinking of purchasing this 16013 DJ. Seller send me these so very clear pictures. How's the case in your opinion does it look over polished? Thank you! 33471872_2472444869447794_4339161985489829888_n.jpg 33374725_2472444839447797_1010694890960453632_n.jpg 33455463_2472444969447784_5039369120777240576_n.jpg 33224557_2472445029447778_2837176454238699520_n.jpg

25 May 2018, 02:11 AM	#2
Richard Carver "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: US Posts: 2,237	Clasp coronet on the bottom is too round, bracelet is maybe a fake. Need more and better pics of the watch, inside the case as well. Bracelet makes the whole watch suspect.

25 May 2018, 04:30 AM	#4
Richard Carver "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: US Posts: 2,237	Really couldn't get enough detail on the bracelet but the deal killer for me is the case corrosion. This is what you want to see... ...the case back should be corrosion free as well. Also, check between the lugs.

25 May 2018, 10:05 PM	#5
alexkarbo "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: canada Posts: 136	I thought the black inside the case was rubber gasket residue. I'll have a look into that thank you.

25 May 2018, 11:07 PM	#6
Richard Carver "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: US Posts: 2,237	This isn't gasket residue either... DJs are the multitaskers of Rolex. Spear fishing in the morning, dinner out at night, changing baby in the middle. These old DJs were bought by people who wanted one watch that would do everything and that included a lot of diving over many years for some. No one cleaned a watch in those days they were just a tool. Rolex recommended rinsing after seawater and if people did anything that was it. Some corroded cases result from acidic perspiration but the sea is the main culprit. The OP's watch is a fairly light case but it never stops and you can never trust water resistance again. Valuable collector watches get acid treated and then welded and polished back to perfection, old DJs not so much. There are plenty of clean case vintage Rolex, just make the effort to find one.

25 May 2018, 11:15 PM	#7
alexkarbo "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: canada Posts: 136	The effort I did do hoping to find one for a good price. This was 2.4k which was pretty reasonable IMO. I'll go have a look at the watch which is a few hours drive from my place. I'm still not convince with those pictures that it might not be oxidation but gasket gunk. I'll report back Thank you

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