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Old 15 September 2010, 01:45 AM   #61
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I just went back and looked up all the posts Tristan started when Dalip was with him and all the pictures of his family and they really looked like they were having a good time. This is very sad indeed that Tristan would go through all this and then basically screw Dalip over like this. Damn, Dalip, I know this has to hurt in more ways than one. Tristan appeared for all tense and purposes to be a true friend. Some of the pictures make it look like you two were a couple of kids showing off your toys and playing in the sand having a grand old time. What goes through the mind of someone like him? One question Dalip, did Tristan appear to be well off? I mean all the pictures I have seen, it appears to me that Tristan is very well to do. What line of work is he in? Did he ever talk about what he did for a living? Just curious.
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I've re-read and still don't understand. Let me try a cliff's notes version:

Dalip purchased a 750 Euro hotel voucher which was never applied to his stay, yes?
I think there was a lot of underlying intent that is very hard to prove unless you were there. I'm sure it wasn't easy to explain, and if you weren't there it is difficult to decipher. You should go back and read all the posts from Tristan from that time frame and try to put the puzzle together, you may get a better picture that way....
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I think there was a lot of underlying intent that is very hard to prove unless you were there. I'm sure it wasn't easy to explain, and if you weren't there it is difficult to decipher. You should go back and read all the posts from Tristan from that time frame and try to put the puzzle together, you may get a better picture that way....
No, no, I wasn't trying to make a point or anything, I just had a hard time following the story. What I got from it was Dalip paid Tristan for a discount voucher that was never applied to his hotel stay, and Dalip ended up paying more than anticipated for the stay because Tristan was manipulating discounts behind the scenes (or something).
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He's banned and gone from here and there. What's left to say about this, really?
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Old 15 September 2010, 01:58 AM   #65
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No, no, I wasn't trying to make a point or anything, I just had a hard time following the story. What I got from it was Dalip paid Tristan for a discount voucher that was never applied to his hotel stay, and Dalip ended up paying more than anticipated for the stay because Tristan was manipulating discounts behind the scenes (or something).
I didn't think you were.. It's very confusing and hard to wrap your hands around. That's why I suggested you go back and read all the posts from that time frame, it may give you a better picture of the situation at hand during that time and sometimes reading the posts and knowing what you do now, you might be able to read between the lines so to speak.
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Old 15 September 2010, 02:02 AM   #66
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I didn't think you were.. It's very confusing and hard to wrap your hands around. That's why I suggested you go back and read all the posts from that time frame, it may give you a better picture of the situation at hand during that time and sometimes reading the posts and knowing what you do now, you might be able to read between the lines so to speak.
Almost 13,000 posts between the two of them, that's just too much to wade through.

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Old 15 September 2010, 02:02 AM   #67
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I've re-read and still don't understand. Let me try a cliff's notes version:

Dalip purchased a 750 Euro hotel voucher which was never applied to his stay, yes?
It looks to me like Tristan made assurances to Dalip that he could not follow through with, including a deal that somehow became "vouchers" later, which were never applied. "Vouchers" that may exist, and may be with Tristan. He accepted responsibility for the 750 Euro difference, and than failed to deliver on his promises with excuse after excuse, and quite a difficult to believe tale. Ultimately he pulled out the friendship card, saying he would not wire him the money as it was not really a debt, he's not a friend, etc, etc. Dalip, thinking he owed his good "friend" for the non existent good deal, probably picked up the tab for some things that he shouldn't have. That's my take. I'm not going to comment on what would have happened to the $4000 if Dalip had sent it to Steve for Tristan, but it's a good bet that it would have gone the way of the 750 euro.
Not the actions of a gentleman. His own emails speak volumes.
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Discount vouchers are a token which are either used by oneself or given or shared between friends/clients. Why would one spend 750 Euros on a voucher for a 750 Euro discount?
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Old 15 September 2010, 02:11 AM   #69
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Almost 13,000 posts between the two of them, that's just too much to wade through.

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Jen, just go back to is profile and find all the posts HE STARTED and then look for the once is July, they are very easy to find, they are all in a row. No need to go through the rest of the posts.
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He wanted to spend about $1000-1200 on a room, Tristan said he could get him upgraded to a suite for about $1900 and than, after the stay, in spite of all assurances, couldn't deliver, ultimately costing Dalip about $2800 instead. Almost 3 times what he wanted to spend, and to add insult to injury, he picked up the tab for some things that probably should have been split. Costing many hundred more. Tristan agreed to compensate him and never followed through, denying responsibility. It's not clear how the deal became vouchers, but they're out there somewhere, and not with Dalip.
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Old 15 September 2010, 02:22 AM   #71
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Jen, just go back to is profile and find all the posts HE STARTED and then look for the once is July, they are very easy to find, they are all in a row. No need to go through the rest of the posts.
OK, OK. It's a slow day around here anyway.
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Old 15 September 2010, 02:27 AM   #72
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Sorry to hear this, Dalip. Hope it all goes well.
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Old 15 September 2010, 02:29 AM   #73
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It's not clear how the deal became vouchers, but they're out there somewhere, and not with Dalip.
I don't think they ever existed nor do I think that poor Pillippo, his wheelchair or life support machine existed either.
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Old 15 September 2010, 02:44 AM   #74
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I'm not sure why he would make promises like that, promises that will end up hurting someone, but I don't understand why people do lots of things.
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Old 15 September 2010, 02:46 AM   #75
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I'm glad he was escorted off the TRF property, and banned.

The activity shown towards other members is distasteful to say the least!
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Old 15 September 2010, 02:53 AM   #76
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Dalip...you put in a lot of effort to create that post and tell your side of the story....thank you for that. I think his character has been nailed by several posters here.
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Old 15 September 2010, 02:58 AM   #77
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I am new, and I have been lurking on TRF for a long time and I am sorry to hear that. I have seen a lot of posts between Leo and Tristan, since Leo and Tristan are really good friends, what does Leo have to say about this?
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I need to clarify something here.

What I meant by my post "I'm sorry to hear this" is not that I'm taking sides but rather I'm sorry to see this whole ordeal appear as I've alwaways considered both Dalip & Tristan to be my friends and I'm deeply concerned.

I'm not considering Tristan a conman but rather a victim of unfortunate circumstances and I still hope and pray for a friendly solution.[/QUOTE]

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Old 15 September 2010, 03:00 AM   #78
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Am I the only one whose Spider Senses are tingling?
You're slowwwwwwww, mine were after the first post from Francia!.

That and roving IPs...
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Old 15 September 2010, 03:01 AM   #79
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I have a question: did you ever get the 750 Euros back
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Old 15 September 2010, 03:03 AM   #80
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There are acquaintances ...and there are friends. A big difference. Friends I have met, known for a long time...I know them, their background etc.
I don't think I could really call anyone that I exchange text with on the internet a friend. Perhaps I am paranoid, just down right unsociable I don't know, but in this day and age with the ability to be taken for a ride so easily on your computer I trust very few.
Everyone is a possible scammer. Anyone can say they have this and that, work for this company or that company and done god knows what else..It's very easy. Heck just look back at the former member that said he had the Patek!

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Old 15 September 2010, 03:04 AM   #81
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You're slowwwwwwww, mine were after the first post from Francia!.

That and roving IPs...
Agreed. I think its "safe" to say that Francia's posts are a "trend" in one direction.
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Old 15 September 2010, 03:05 AM   #82
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You're slowwwwwwww, mine were after the first post from Francia!.

That and roving IPs...
LMAO!!! Guilty as charged!
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anyway.... lets look on the bright side, Dalip and family had a pretty decent holiday apart from this "incident"... and Alison got a brand spank new Rolex from Tristan's AD.........

How is the DJ going? Did you managed to get a good prices + VAT off?
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Old 15 September 2010, 04:23 AM   #85
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So sad. From what I could read, I see two separate issues here. Most know about how Tristan forged documents that ultimately relieved our admin of his money. I see the Dalip hotel situation a little different. Tristian was being grandiose proclaiming he could get Dalip a great room because he had a means to get a discount. Obviously he didnt (or pocketed the discount himself) so he strung Dalip along on a web of lies and sob stories as to why he couldnt get his money back. Then as Dalip thought Tritian's behaviour was suspicious in the Stevo affair, it gave Tristian the reason to tell Dalip to get bent. More of a pathological liar than conman in my opinion, but still a con. Too bad we'll never know the what was really discussed between Tristian and the hotel manager. Perhaps he owed the manager of the hotel some money as well? My guess is that if you call the hotel and ask for that manager, he might tell a story of a minor fender bender that he had on the highway... Leave it to a con to embellish the story.

Sorry to all who were duped by this guy, I'm glad that the watch community is putting him in his place...
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So sad. From what I could read, I see two separate issues here. Most know about how Tristan forged documents that ultimately relieved our admin of his money. I see the Dalip hotel situation a little different. Tristian was being grandiose proclaiming he could get Dalip a great room because he had a means to get a discount. Obviously he didnt (or pocketed the discount himself) so he strung Dalip along on a web of lies and sob stories as to why he couldnt get his money back. Then as Dalip thought Tritian's behaviour was suspicious in the Stevo affair, it gave Tristian the reason to tell Dalip to get bent. More of a pathological liar than conman in my opinion, but still a con. Too bad we'll never know the what was really discussed between Tristian and the hotel manager. Perhaps he owed the manager of the hotel some money as well? My guess is that if you call the hotel and ask for that manager, he might tell a story of a minor fender bender that he had on the highway... Leave it to a con to embellish the story.

Sorry to all who were duped by this guy, I'm glad that the watch community is putting him in his place...
Well put.

There are a couple of people that are English that live near to me here in France that are really nice, friendly people....but unfortunately they are compulsive liars! They seem to try to impress all the time and I am sure they actually believe their own lies.
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Sorry for all the trouble that you have gone through. From your post you have been a stand up person through out. Don't let his actions discourage you from trusting your fellow man. There are many more honest and helpful individuals than liars and con men.
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There is more information to share, this story in not finished just yet....Dalip, when you get a chance, please do the honors.....
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Well I am not an expert but he definitely comes across as a smalltime conman. He runs small jobs, mostly currying favor, gifts, and small cash advances. He presents himself as a man of means and stature able to get deals wherever he goes only in the end it's you who foots the bill and thanks him for his hospitality.

Something was up with the DJ he was trying to sell you he was definitely trying to work an angle there.

Sorry man, that sucks.
Dalip,

Thanks for taking the time to clarify and tell us the proverbial "rest of the story." I remember seeing the post and pics from your trip to BCN and thinking "Wow, those guys really hit it off." I appreciate your efforts to provide the facts and allow them to speak for themselves.

This whole thing, including the transaction with MOD Steve reminds me of a quote from Topgun: "Son, your ego is writing checks your body can't cash!"

I think Michael really hits the nail on the head with his above feedback. This guy doesn't appear to be a big time major league scammer. Perhaps he was/is "in the making?"...

There is a famous song refrain that states: "You see a man's face, but you don't see his heart."

Who knows what was going on with Tristan/Bassethounds? Humanity has many people obsessively compelled to embellish, aggrandize, exaggerate, and sadly, deceive.

Perhaps suffering from some sort of disorder like this one:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pseudologia_fantastica
The defining characteristics of pseudologia fantastica are that, first, the stories told are not entirely improbable and often have some element of truth. They are not a manifestation of delusion or some wider form of psychosis: upon confrontation, the teller can admit them to be untrue, even if unwillingly. Second, the fabricative tendency is long lasting; it is not provoked by the immediate situation or social pressure as much as it originates with the person's innate urge to act in accordance. Third, a definitely internal, not an external, motive for the behavior can be clinically discerned e.g. long lasting extortion or habitual spousal battery might cause a person to lie repeatedly, without the lying being a pathological symptom.[2] Fourth, the stories told tend towards presenting the person in question in a good light. For example, the person might be presented as being fantastically brave, knowing or being related to many famous people.

Who knows? Guy spends a lot of time building up his profile/bona fides on a forum, ingratiates himself with some of the members, mods and owners, says he has something he does not, says he can deliver it, doesn't have it, doesn't ship it, can get discounts, knows the "right people", etc...Then, when it unravels there is always an excuse (fantastical car wrecks just one example) as to the extenuating circumstances, but just hang in there and it all be explained.... Whoa.

Anyway it's been an interesting read and cautionary tale for me in many respects.

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