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SubMariner55 · 17 October 2018, 01:45 AM

"Simple" question, should I sell/trade my 5711 (2017, no it did not buy it from Patek before anyone asks.) and get a NICE 5513 Gilt. I have been looking for a nice 5513 GILT for a while now, and I think I am finally ready to pull the trigger on a nice looking 5513 GILT, but then the 5711 has to go. Whats your thoughts. I really could use some help here, I know this is the Patek part of the forum... but I might do a similar or exactly same thread on the Rolex Vintage part.

GB-man · 17 October 2018, 01:52 AM

Since we are talking vintage we really need to see the gilt to assess how nice we are talking

Is it a straight trade? Blue or white 5711?

SubMariner55 · 17 October 2018, 01:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GB-man

Since we are talking vintage we really need to see the gilt to access how nice we are talking

Is it a straight trade? Blue or white 5711?

I'll try get a picture of the GILT, yes a blue 5711

yoast · 17 October 2018, 02:24 AM

No way on earth. Vintage rolex is a lottery, vs a winner in the 5711

thomaspp · 17 October 2018, 02:26 AM

Gilt all day

thomaspp · 17 October 2018, 02:28 AM

Both is nice though...

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Karbo · 17 October 2018, 02:38 AM

5711 for me

RussW · 17 October 2018, 03:56 AM

I’m not into vintage, so for me this question is submariner or 5711? I’d take the 5711 any day.

Further to that the 5513 is essentially a £6k watch that sells for a £20k premium (guessing a little here) on the market as no longer available at an AD. The 5711 is a £23k watch that also sells for a £20k premium on the market, so in that respect they offer similar value. The difference is that you can still buy the 5711 at rrp from an AD and I think that makes it a much better buy.

goog53 · 17 October 2018, 04:45 AM

Better see the Gilt dial in person and “buy the seller”. I have heard horror stories about gilt dials being doctored up and Vintage can be very tricky. The 5711 if you part with it wont be easy to get back

bobodrink · 17 October 2018, 05:57 AM

It all depends on the 5513. If its a super mint 5513 gilt than I will pick it over a 5711 as its way harder to find. Otherwise 5711 wins on most 5513.

Helmi · 17 October 2018, 06:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by yoast

No way on earth. Vintage rolex is a lottery, vs a winner in the 5711

+1

Bearxj86 · 17 October 2018, 06:43 AM

I love how this exact same poll in the Vintage forums the 5513 has the lead, but not as overwhelming as the lead the 5711 has here :)

All a matter of perspective I guess.

Vipes · 17 October 2018, 06:45 AM

5711 since I'm not into vintage.

R!$ · 17 October 2018, 07:44 AM

I would rather wear the Rolex but these are two completely different watches

Codik · 17 October 2018, 09:11 AM

I don’t like the submariner, and am a fan of the 5711. So 5711.

Chiboy · 17 October 2018, 09:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bearxj86

I love how this exact same poll in the Vintage forums the 5513 has the lead, but not as overwhelming as the lead the 5711 has here :)

All a matter of perspective I guess.

I always think that if you want the Rolex to win, post on the Rolex sub-forum. If you want a Patek to win, post here.

Either way, expect lots of "Save and get both!!!!"

Ichiran · 17 October 2018, 10:23 AM

5711 and it's not even remotely close.

kneedeep · 17 October 2018, 10:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobodrink

It all depends on the 5513. If its a super mint 5513 gilt than I will pick it over a 5711 as its way harder to find. Otherwise 5711 wins on most 5513.

this for me

mdtddd2007 · 17 October 2018, 10:46 AM

Keep 11!

soundserious · 17 October 2018, 11:33 AM

The one with box and papers that is unpolished and whose company will service until forever that is gaurunteed authentic and oem in every way.

Obviously.

thomaspp · 17 October 2018, 12:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by soundserious

The one with box and papers that is unpolished and whose company will service until forever that is gaurunteed authentic and oem in every way.

Obviously.

So you mean the vintage Rolex ! Lol

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Humble michael · 17 October 2018, 12:04 PM

Please please don’t trade a 5711 for a submariner

malarky_hk · 17 October 2018, 12:38 PM

No way.

Petern8551 · 18 October 2018, 01:27 AM

Keep the 11!

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SearChart · 18 October 2018, 05:42 AM

I would do that trade, but that's because I'm a sucker for vintage and I don't like the nautilus that much.

Donjo · 18 October 2018, 07:18 AM

I guess it depends where you are going with your collection.

soundserious · 18 October 2018, 01:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thomaspp

So you mean the vintage Rolex ! Lol

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Sure mate, best of luck with it.

Ayrebikeskon · 18 October 2018, 02:15 PM

I would trade the 5711 for the sub.

Passionata · 18 October 2018, 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by SearChart

I would do that trade, but that's because I'm a sucker for vintage and I don't like the nautilus that much.

The more and more reading about fake vintages(the vintage watchmaker case,phony watches at auction houses,etc) the more happy i left that path(actually never really involved),rather a pp for msrp than a piece you admire and realize just years after that it s a piece of scrap for high$$$.

AK797 · 18 October 2018, 09:21 PM

5711. Early MK Red Sub would be more my speed.

View Poll Results: Patek 5711 or Rolex 5513 GILT
5711	69	80.23%
5513 GILT	17	19.77%
Voters: 86. You may not vote on this poll

17 October 2018, 01:45 AM	#1
SubMariner55 "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: sweden Posts: 54	Patek 5711 or Rolex 5513 gilt "Simple" question, should I sell/trade my 5711 (2017, no it did not buy it from Patek before anyone asks.) and get a NICE 5513 Gilt. I have been looking for a nice 5513 GILT for a while now, and I think I am finally ready to pull the trigger on a nice looking 5513 GILT, but then the 5711 has to go. Whats your thoughts. I really could use some help here, I know this is the Patek part of the forum... but I might do a similar or exactly same thread on the Rolex Vintage part.

17 October 2018, 01:52 AM	#2
GB-man 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: USA Watch: addiction issues Posts: 36,859	Since we are talking vintage we really need to see the gilt to assess how nice we are talking Is it a straight trade? Blue or white 5711? __________________

17 October 2018, 02:24 AM	#4
yoast "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: HK Posts: 2,260	No way on earth. Vintage rolex is a lottery, vs a winner in the 5711 __________________ IG: @yoast.watch https://www.instagram.com/yoast.watch/

17 October 2018, 02:26 AM	#5
thomaspp "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: N/A Posts: 11,136	Gilt all day __________________ Instagram: @watches_anonymous

17 October 2018, 02:28 AM	#6
thomaspp "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: N/A Posts: 11,136	Both is nice though... Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ Instagram: @watches_anonymous

17 October 2018, 02:38 AM	#7
Karbo "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: Paris, France Watch: Dayto/5164 Posts: 1,631	5711 for me __________________ IG : @aka_karbo

17 October 2018, 03:56 AM	#8
RussW "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: England Watch: 5990 Posts: 3,340	I’m not into vintage, so for me this question is submariner or 5711? I’d take the 5711 any day. Further to that the 5513 is essentially a £6k watch that sells for a £20k premium (guessing a little here) on the market as no longer available at an AD. The 5711 is a £23k watch that also sells for a £20k premium on the market, so in that respect they offer similar value. The difference is that you can still buy the 5711 at rrp from an AD and I think that makes it a much better buy.

17 October 2018, 04:45 AM	#9
goog53 "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Real Name: Mike G Location: Ohio Watch: Rolex-Patek-AP Posts: 3,060	Better see the Gilt dial in person and “buy the seller”. I have heard horror stories about gilt dials being doctored up and Vintage can be very tricky. The 5711 if you part with it wont be easy to get back __________________ The only thing better than the watches are the people behind them. "The best watch in the world is the one that's on your wrist." Morgan King "Do you like having a good time? Then you need a good watch!" Rocky Balboa

17 October 2018, 05:57 AM	#10
bobodrink "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2015 Real Name: Bolin Location: Boston, Taipei Watch: Nautilus 3712 Posts: 46	It all depends on the 5513. If its a super mint 5513 gilt than I will pick it over a 5711 as its way harder to find. Otherwise 5711 wins on most 5513. __________________ Patek Philippe 37121A "Jumbo Case" Audemars Piguet 15202OR "Jumbo" Rolex Daytona 6239 "Exotic Dial PN" Rolex GMT Master 1675 "Fuschia" Rolex Submariner 5513 "Gilt"

17 October 2018, 06:43 AM	#12
Bearxj86 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2017 Location: Los Angeles Watch: 3970 Posts: 3,801	I love how this exact same poll in the Vintage forums the 5513 has the lead, but not as overwhelming as the lead the 5711 has here :) All a matter of perspective I guess.

17 October 2018, 06:45 AM	#13
Vipes "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Texas Posts: 4,838	5711 since I'm not into vintage.

17 October 2018, 07:44 AM	#14
R!$ Banned Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: SoCal Posts: 2,405	I would rather wear the Rolex but these are two completely different watches

17 October 2018, 09:11 AM	#15
Codik "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: UK Posts: 284	I don’t like the submariner, and am a fan of the 5711. So 5711.

17 October 2018, 10:23 AM	#17
Ichiran 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jan 2018 Real Name: Michael Location: Dotonbori Watch: Mostly blue dials Posts: 7,621	5711 and it's not even remotely close.

17 October 2018, 10:46 AM	#19
mdtddd2007 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: U.S Watch: Rolex, PP, AP, GS Posts: 5,657	Keep 11!

17 October 2018, 11:33 AM	#20
soundserious "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: usofmfa Posts: 3,157	The one with box and papers that is unpolished and whose company will service until forever that is gaurunteed authentic and oem in every way. Obviously. __________________ Instagram: soundsoserious

17 October 2018, 12:04 PM	#22
Humble michael "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2014 Real Name: James Cline Location: san antonio Watch: 5711 white , 5990, Posts: 1,218	Please please don’t trade a 5711 for a submariner

17 October 2018, 12:38 PM	#23
malarky_hk "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: ... Watch: Rolex Posts: 4,466	No way.

18 October 2018, 01:27 AM	#24
Petern8551 "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2015 Real Name: Peter Location: Dubai Posts: 21	Keep the 11! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

18 October 2018, 07:18 AM	#26
Donjo "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 169	I guess it depends where you are going with your collection.

18 October 2018, 02:15 PM	#28
Ayrebikeskon Banned Join Date: Oct 2018 Location: Italy Posts: 18	I would trade the 5711 for the sub.

18 October 2018, 09:21 PM	#30
AK797 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Real Name: Neil Location: UK Watch: ing ships roll in Posts: 59,225	5711. Early MK Red Sub would be more my speed.

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