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Old 16 October 2018, 04:24 AM   #61
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The only thing milk is used for in our home is cooking, we probably consume about 1L per 5-6 weeks.

Two reasons:

I chugged a glass of sour milk when I was about 7yrs old or so. Never went back.

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Humans are the only animals that drink milk beyond infancy and childhood. And they drink the milk of not only another species, but another genus. The genome for producing lactase, the enzyme which digests milk is turned off in adulthood, so most humans are lactose intolerant. If humans were meant to drink milk, female humans would lactate perpetually. And eating cereal for breakfast would look a whole lot different.
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Old 16 October 2018, 04:28 AM   #62
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how did you ignore the "Got Milk?" Ad campaign all those years? You totally missed out. I still dont know why the napkin industry didn't capitalize on that with a response. What a gold mine.
was probably too busy chugging gatorades
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Old 16 October 2018, 04:34 AM   #63
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Do you drink milk?

Not in 25 years...maybe more actually. I don’t drink tea or coffee. Once or twice I’ll have cereal with barely a splash of milk in it. I don’t know why but I find it totally unappetizing. If people like it drink up!
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Old 16 October 2018, 04:45 AM   #64
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My brothers and I argue about this, ha ... I drink real whole milk often and my bros try to convince me to drink the new fangled soy milk made in a factory...

Milk should come from a cow, imo
I quite agree, soy is an endocrine disrupter and the long term effects haven't been studied. The ill effects seem to start with posting Instagram photos making the soy face and it only goes down hill from there.

Stick with the cow milk. At worst it might make you a bit fatter.
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Old 16 October 2018, 04:47 AM   #65
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I chugged a glass of sour milk when I was about 7yrs old or so. Never went back.
i can't drink orange juice to this day... one two many screwdrivers one night, freshman year of college. Just the smell makes me sick. So i get that.
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Old 16 October 2018, 04:50 AM   #66
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Humans are the only animals that drink milk beyond infancy and childhood. And they drink the milk of not only another species, but another genus. The genome for producing lactase, the enzyme which digests milk is turned off in adulthood, so most humans are lactose intolerant. If humans were meant to drink milk, female humans would lactate perpetually. And eating cereal for breakfast would look a whole lot different.
The most popular book of all time includes a promise of the “land of milk and honey”. Why would milk be a reward of the promised land if it were bad for you? Sorry doc, I’m siding with the almighty on this one.

Female humans might lactate indefinately if you milked them. Just like cows. Stop milking the cow and she quits lactating.

FWIW, I drink almost as much milk as Bas. So do many friends. No one seems to be intolerant.
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Old 16 October 2018, 04:56 AM   #67
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The most popular book of all time includes a promise of the “land of milk and honey”. Why would milk be a reward of the promised land if it were bad for you? Sorry doc, I’m siding with the almighty on this one.

FWIW, I drink almost as much milk as Bas. So do many friends. No one seems to be intolerant.
because its a metaphor for your mother probably and fertility and good...and sweet foods are often a metaphor for knowledge.

So...You get to live in a fertile, good area to then be a knowledgable and wise people.
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Not really to be honest but I do eat diary so not sure if that counts;-)

Maybe with cereal at times, but lately my wife and daughter has us on the other nut based stuff...


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Old 16 October 2018, 05:16 AM   #69
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because its a metaphor for your mother probably and fertility and good...and sweet foods are often a metaphor for knowledge.

So...You get to live in a fertile, good area to then be a knowledgable and wise people.
Nice philosophical reply, but factually unsupported. Milk and honey were rich sources of nutrients in those times. People couldn’t digest grass and weeds, but they could survive easily on milk. Aboriginal people in Africa still consume milk as a subsistance staple. Promising a land rich in milk and honey was a promise of tangible reward, not an imagining of what could be.
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Old 16 October 2018, 05:29 AM   #70
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Nice philosophical reply, but factually unsupported. Milk and honey were rich sources of nutrients in those times. People couldn’t digest grass and weeds, but they could survive easily on milk. Aboriginal people in Africa still consume milk as a subsistance staple. Promising a land rich in milk and honey was a promise of tangible reward, not an imagining of what could be.
agree to disagree. There are tons of double meanings in everything. Its part of the reason people study it fort their entire life and never fully understand. Taking everything literally is one dimensional but reading it again adds a different layer.

Honey was probably crushed dates anyway. Bees were cultivated but dates were more common

It wasn't literally flowing with anything, its mostly a desert after all and pretty harsh place to live as opposed to somewhere more northernly. At least by todays standards. I would be pretty mad at the marketing pitch. Livable sure, but not the best area of the time within the fertile crescent.
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Old 16 October 2018, 05:30 AM   #71
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Does chocolate milk count? Then yes
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Old 16 October 2018, 05:33 AM   #72
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Female humans might lactate indefinately if you milked them. Just like cows. Stop milking the cow and she quits lactating.
Oh, they do, I talked to a woman once who was still breastfeeding her youngest at 5. Yes, that is weird, and she actually admitted that too, but it was apparently very convenient.

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FWIW, I drink almost as much milk as Bas. So do many friends. No one seems to be intolerant.
In Sweden and Finland 90% of all adults can drink milk, they still produce lactase. It is a good source of Vitamin D in the winter when the sunlight is too weak to make your skin produce it. But apparently it is also a good food source when starving. I read about it recently somewhere...
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I’m pretty confident my wife would not want to be milked...
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Old 16 October 2018, 05:43 AM   #74
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Whole milk with my cereal. Otherwise, it's water, beer, and whiskey.
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Old 16 October 2018, 05:45 AM   #75
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agree to disagree. There are tons of double meanings in everything. Its part of the reason people study it fort their entire life and never fully understand. Taking everything literally is one dimensional but reading it again adds a different layer.

Honey was probably crushed dates anyway. Bees were cultivated but dates were more common

It wasn't literally flowing with anything, its mostly a desert after all and pretty harsh place to live as opposed to somewhere more northernly. At least by todays standards
I'm taking it less literally than historically. People don't live on metaphors, they live on materials. Livestock were kept precisely for this purpose. Milk, meat, and hides fulfilled most of a man's needs. In a desert, critters that can digest the meager portion of weeds make for excellent livestock (camels have been domesticated for several millennia).

I'm not sure how you get from bees to crushed dates. Wild bees are common throughout the region. And dates were simply dates, not a metaphor for bee barf.

Anyway, people have been drinking milk for thousands of years, whether for subsistence or the divine metaphor. It's only recently that some dudes have decided it's bad for you.
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Old 16 October 2018, 06:04 AM   #76
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Drink milk everyday love the stuff nice and cold out of the fridge.
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Old 16 October 2018, 06:05 AM   #77
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Female humans might lactate indefinately if you milked them. Just like cows. Stop milking the cow and she quits lactating.
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Oh, they do, I talked to a woman once who was still breastfeeding her youngest at 5. Yes, that is weird, and she actually admitted that too, but it was apparently very convenient.
These posts totally reminded me of the BC thread where some guy admitted to him at Chili’s that he breastfed well past what would be considered normal. LOL!
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Old 16 October 2018, 06:13 AM   #78
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I used to drink milk here in the U.K. when full cream milk was available but now rarely seen.
The milk available at the supermarkets (all homogenised?) is parody of its former self.
I now drink soya milk.
Homogenisation is simply dispersing the cream within the milk rather than it floating on the top.
Get yourself to Sainsbury’s and grab some Gold Top or their own brand of Jersey & Guernsey milk.
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Old 16 October 2018, 06:26 AM   #79
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Every morning with my museli & a glass with my dinner at night

The glass at night is a throwback to when I was growing up - my mum always said full of calcium for strong bones etc but the supermarket milk is probably not a patch of the farm delivered milk we got 40 odd years ago. I remember my dad used to leave empty yogurt pots out so the milkman would put on to stop the blue tits picking trough to get the cream
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Nice philosophical reply, but factually unsupported.

ummm, facts the most popular book ever?

not sure if they coincide.

not saying any of it is true, or not. but it certainly is not factual.
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Old 16 October 2018, 07:19 AM   #81
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Old 16 October 2018, 07:21 AM   #82
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Old 16 October 2018, 07:22 AM   #83
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Full fat on my porridge every morning and a glass at night to top my macros up
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One yogurt daily, and if I have cereal, I just mix in the yogurt. Maybe milk in bad coffee to take away the harshness. Otherwise, no cow milk for me.
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ummm, facts the most popular book ever?

not sure if they coincide.

not saying any of it is true, or not. but it certainly is not factual.
I was speaking about the archeology and cultural history. It is a fact. To this day subsistance farmers in the region survive off their livestock. Milk is a staple. And honey is the sweetener of choice.

You guys need to get away from the big cities and high end resorts, and out into the hinterlands. You will find that people can be happy and healthy without soy milk and almond butter.
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I drank a small glass of 2% recently, the first time in years. It felt like I ate a tub of cream cheese. I’ve had pints of IPA’s that were less filling. It would take some time and effort to get used to drinking milk again.

IPA’s I’m acclimated to...


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Old 16 October 2018, 07:53 AM   #87
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In small quantities only - lactose intolerant as i age.
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Anyway, people have been drinking milk for thousands of years, whether for subsistence or the divine metaphor. It's only recently that some dudes have decided it's bad for you.
Modern medicine has decided it's bad for some people. Regardless of history, where they live and what book they read.
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Modern medicine has decided it's bad for some people. Regardless of history, where they live and what book they read.
Modern medicine said coffee is bad
No, coffee is good
No, coffee is bad
No, bitter alkaloids in coffee are good, but something else in it is bad...

Milk is not good for some people, but is good for many people. My objection is the blanket dismissal in the name of modern science, when human experience says otherwise.
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Since my heart attack in 2009 I only drink Skim Plus. It’s fat free with very minimal cholesterol and tastes more like whole milk than anything else I’ve tried.
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