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15 October 2018, 01:40 PM | #31 | |
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If you could turn 5k profit on a Daytona into 20k, wouldn't you do it? |
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15 October 2018, 01:45 PM | #32 |
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This practice happens all the time.
When I was sales manager at a national computer wholesaler, it happened a lot. Hot products or limited supply products will be bundled with non-moving products. My VIP customers will get 1st dips. One off customers and non active customers will not get hot products. Put yourself in the AD’s shoes..... you’ll do the same thing. |
15 October 2018, 01:48 PM | #33 |
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modus operandi
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15 October 2018, 01:55 PM | #34 |
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15 October 2018, 02:00 PM | #35 |
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15 October 2018, 02:02 PM | #36 |
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They appear when you start talking dollars. And by dollars I mean the large amount you are willing to part ways with above RRP.
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15 October 2018, 02:04 PM | #37 | |
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If you come in a buy a pair of marked up diamond earrings that they normally aren't going to move, then you just netted them a few grand profit they weren't expecting. Now you're more elnlegable for a hot item that they take a 'loss' on. |
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15 October 2018, 02:45 PM | #38 | |
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Person A wants to just buy a hot watch. Person B does too but is willing to also buy a slow moving watch or some high mark up jewelry. Let's see..do I want to make a little money or a lot of money? |
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15 October 2018, 03:18 PM | #39 |
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When demand > supply ... There is the ability to be selective
Whether an AD is choosing to sell or not is at their discretion and their business...Whether profit is in terms of money, loyal customer or just selling their inventory regardless. Ebbs and flows ...
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15 October 2018, 03:20 PM | #40 |
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they have more than what they will lead you to believe, i guarantee you that.
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15 October 2018, 03:22 PM | #41 | |
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If you know some of your big clients will be asking about something as its inevitable that they will, you better make sure its available when they do. Risking potentially hundreds of thousands of dollars in future spend to move a 10k piece quickly to a walk in and one off purchaser makes zero business sense. People with those deep pockets have a lot of leverage and can choose to spend that money somewhere else. playing the long game vs short game
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15 October 2018, 03:45 PM | #42 | |
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Some ADs, sure. All, no? I'd like to cash in that garuntee... Additionally, the infinite overhead this would cause ADs due to Rolex business model - the ADs wouldn't be able to sustain this like other brands that don't require the upfront investment Lastly, this equates to how they have little to no control on what model and when they'll show up even if someone has the cash to purchase...now if an AD wants to source it outside their own or something sure. When they can't, this fuels one of the main reasons the grey market exists.. If you have endless funds to purchase you'll be able to aquire whatever XYZ is 99% of time, be in prison, or just buy out your competition.
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15 October 2018, 03:47 PM | #43 | |
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If you think everything the AD has is in the display case, i dont know what to tell you. They have stuff in the back. what exactly it is varies and its not like they keep the entire catalogue in reserve but there is a very good chance they have a daytona or a BLRO back there. Its a small amount of money to keep tied up as a reward for customers they want to sell it to or an inducement to leverage other purchases. Both situations happen almost everywhere. Popular SS Rolex and Patek in particular are bargaining chips.
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15 October 2018, 03:49 PM | #44 |
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Most definitely this happens.
In one sitting I tried on a black and white Daytona as well as a BLRO. Not for sale to me though. |
15 October 2018, 03:59 PM | #45 |
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I have been to my AD multiple times (at least 4) where they pulled out a Daytona to just show me when I was looking at other watches. Each time giving me some BS line that the Daytona was spoken for. I didn't ask to see them or if they even had one. I often wonder if I pushed if I could have purchased one.
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15 October 2018, 04:08 PM | #46 | |
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Thanks for the confirmation to my question. Good to know all ADs are the same... Since all ADs are the same it must melt people's minds if I say I know my ADs entire inventory? If theres a world where ADs arent robots and are humans, as well as friends to people...where actions aren't all motivated by a short term monetary profit and instead have many more variables. Regardless, there are two sides to every situation so fully respect your opinions. Cheers.
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15 October 2018, 05:31 PM | #47 | |
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Furthermore i specifically stated the motivation for holding watches varies as well as what watch or watches it is, but its usually something. Some bundle, some use it to reward customers with extensive histories. My AD doesnt bundle and use these pieces as rewards for customers who buy a lot of watches. Quite frankly if you are not getting one of those watches the AD doesn't want you to know they have it anyway.
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15 October 2018, 07:51 PM | #48 |
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15 October 2018, 08:10 PM | #50 |
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i dont. maybe the first 6 months. As nice as it is, its still TT. A very very nice TT watch.
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15 October 2018, 08:25 PM | #52 |
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Darn. I read the title of the thread and figured supermodels would magically appear in my man-cave when I clicked on it. If it sounds too good to be true...
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15 October 2018, 08:34 PM | #53 |
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do you deal with the local Goldsmiths Paul?
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15 October 2018, 08:55 PM | #55 |
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You can count on it.
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15 October 2018, 10:35 PM | #57 |
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Once the market turns, you'll see more and more "hot" models suddenly available at around MSRP. I remember visiting the country during its currency dip and seeing a Daytona at an AD. The owner was willing to let it go at MSRP.
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15 October 2018, 10:55 PM | #60 | |
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Personally with the overall market and the economy being good, and if getting a watch is the biggest stress in my life because of it, i count myself lucky. Once the market turns there are bigger worries than sudden availability of watches. Maybe im weird
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