3861 moon - Swaping the clasp for the chronoscope clasp?

[BryRocket]

Has anyone recently switched out the clasp on your 3861 moon for the chronoscope clasp? I would like to try this but cannot find the link (part 118STZ013110). Does anyone know where to track one of these down or if there is a more dedicated solution for a replacement clasp? I'd love just a smidge of microadjust. Was told today that the link may be d/c'd.

There are articles out there but I cannot post the link just yet.

Thanks in advance.

[Clckwrk]

If I’m not mistaken, Omega will shortly release a clasp with micro-extension specifically for the 3861 Speedmaster bracelet. There’s even a part number floating around already (117Z017553), but as I understand it, the new clasp is not quite available for order just yet.

[BryRocket]

Oh wow. That’s great information. Perhaps this is why they have quit making the link that mates the chronoscope clasp to the 3861 bracelet. Seems to make sense.

Really appreciate the info. ✌��

[Jimmy 1665]

Originally Posted by Clckwrk

If I’m not mistaken, Omega will shortly release a clasp with micro-extension specifically for the 3861 Speedmaster bracelet. There’s even a part number floating around already (117Z017553), but as I understand it, the new clasp is not quite available for order just yet.

Well, this is interesting...
I've been waiting since May to get the clasp converted to the Chronoscope type on my 3861 and the Omega Boutique I deal with has been having challenges sourcing that final clasp link.
If this is imminent, I'll be a happy fella!
Any ideas on timescales for release of something like this?

[Clckwrk]

No idea on the timeline, sadly.

[1William]

I made this transition on the clasp from a Chronoscope to my 3861. Save your money and time as the miniscule amount of adjustment is not worth the effort. I have found that aftermarket bracelets are a better fit and if you look at Forstner's they have a similar looking bracelet as the OEM Omega and it is very comfortable and has a lot of adjustment. I worked with Brandon at the Tyson's Corner Omega Boutique to source the parts on my conversion and if you choose not to wait or buy a different clasp give him a call and see if he can help. Good luck and let us know how it works out.

[Jimmy 1665]

Thanks for the pointer on Forstner's - I'll have a good look round!

[BryRocket]

Originally Posted by Clckwrk

If I’m not mistaken, Omega will shortly release a clasp with micro-extension specifically for the 3861 Speedmaster bracelet. There’s even a part number floating around already (117Z017553), but as I understand it, the new clasp is not quite available for order just yet.

I just spoke with parts at Omega and they do in fact have that part # in their catalogue as a clasp. She said it won’t be available until “early next year”. She could not confirm what watch/bracelet it was compatible with. She also confirmed that the link that is needed for the chronoscope clasp has been d/c’d and is no longer being produced.

[Ravager135]

Originally Posted by Clckwrk

If I’m not mistaken, Omega will shortly release a clasp with micro-extension specifically for the 3861 Speedmaster bracelet. There’s even a part number floating around already (117Z017553), but as I understand it, the new clasp is not quite available for order just yet.

I wish they’d just release a fully compatible flat link bracelet with microadjust with the modern Omega logo.

[Ketler]

Spoke with my AD today and was told that the new clasp will not be available until March at the earliest and she has no idea of price.

[Ravager135]

Originally Posted by Ketler

Spoke with my AD today and was told that the new clasp will not be available until March at the earliest and she has no idea of price.

Good info. I am assuming it will look nearly identical to the Chronoscope clasp albeit compatible with the existing bracelet and no need for additional links.

Honestly, depending on the price, I'd probably get it. My 3861 Speedmaster fits near perfect, but in warm weather it does get a little tight (not uncomfortably, but still). It would probably be perfect if I used the the microadjust built into the existing bracelet, but the link/clasp connection looks disjointed if placed in the furthest setting. As a result, I keep the bracelet fastened on the tighter option.

The clasp is the only thing I don't love about this watch. I like the overall design with the lines in the clasp. I just wish it was slightly wider than the tapered bracelet. The clasp is just a hair too dainty appearing for me. I think a 1-2mm difference in width compared to the bracelet would balance the 42mm case better. This is certainly not a deal breaker for me as the Speedmaster is my daily wearer of 12 different watches.

[brandrea]

Great information in this thread all, thanks

[ap1]

Originally Posted by Ravager135

Good info. I am assuming it will look nearly identical to the Chronoscope clasp albeit compatible with the existing bracelet and no need for additional links.

Honestly, depending on the price, I'd probably get it. My 3861 Speedmaster fits near perfect, but in warm weather it does get a little tight (not uncomfortably, but still). It would probably be perfect if I used the the microadjust built into the existing bracelet, but the link/clasp connection looks disjointed if placed in the furthest setting. As a result, I keep the bracelet fastened on the tighter option.

The clasp is the only thing I don't love about this watch. I like the overall design with the lines in the clasp. I just wish it was slightly wider than the tapered bracelet. The clasp is just a hair to dainty appearing for me. I think a 1-2mm difference in width compared to the bracelet would balance the 42mm case better. This is certainly not a deal breaker for me as the Speedmaster is my daily wearer of 12 different watches.

I feel the same way. I do need that one notch out in the clasp and it looks, less than ideal let’s call it

[Ravager135]

Originally Posted by ap1

I feel the same way. I do need that one notch out in the clasp and it looks, less than ideal let’s call it

Exactly. Omega always comes so close and then there's one little thing off. Again, not a deal breaker for me, but they need to refine their bracelets just a hair more. There's no reason the bracelet should look "less than ideal" when connected at the distal microadjust at the clasp.

The Seamaster 300M bracelet needs an overhaul. It seems Rolex is moving towards the mesh bracelet, but even that has some gaping and thickness issues at the clasp. I've heard depending on wrist size, it's either a perfect fit or can be very uncomfortable. The standard bracelet is comfortable, but bulky and lacks taper.

The standard Speedmaster bracelet we covered.

The flat link bracelet they have on the 321 and 50th Anniversary is perfect.

There really shouldn't be an aftermarket for Omega bracelets (straps always). No one buys an aftermarket steel bracelet to put on a Rolex.

[ap1]

Originally Posted by Ravager135

Exactly. Omega always comes so close and then there's one little thing off. Again, not a deal breaker for me, but they need to refine their bracelets just a hair more. There's no reason the bracelet should look "less than ideal" when connected at the distal microadjust at the clasp.

The Seamaster 300M bracelet needs an overhaul. It seems Rolex is moving towards the mesh bracelet, but even that has some gaping and thickness issues at the clasp. I've heard depending on wrist size, it's either a perfect fit or can be very uncomfortable. The standard bracelet is comfortable, but bulky and lacks taper.

The standard Speedmaster bracelet we covered.

The flat link bracelet they have on the 321 and 50th Anniversary is perfect.

There really shouldn't be an aftermarket for Omega bracelets (straps always). No one buys an aftermarket steel bracelet to put on a Rolex.

Don’t get me started on bond mesh. That thing was a joke on my 6.5. Was a horrible design. I haven’t tried the short version, not sure how I would get to test it. I have no confidence shortening it would make it more wearable but that’s speculation on my part.

[DJ2020]

I wonder if the new clasp will be a running change on the 3861 going forward?

[slm9555]

Originally Posted by DJ2020

I wonder if the new clasp will be a running change on the 3861 going forward?

It already is. There was a post 1-2 weeks ago in the Rolex section Daytona vs speedmaster the guy bought a new speedmaster and it came with the new clasp. He posted pictures. Was cleaner looking without the holes in the side of the clasp.


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[BryRocket]

Originally Posted by slm9555

It already is. There was a post 1-2 weeks ago in the Rolex section Daytona vs speedmaster the guy bought a new speedmaster and it came with the new clasp. He posted pictures. Was cleaner looking without the holes in the side of the clasp.


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I just cannot find that thread. If anyone comes across it, could you link it here? I’m curious to see the pics. Thx!

[slm9555]

Originally Posted by BryRocket

I just cannot find that thread. If anyone comes across it, could you link it here? I’m curious to see the pics. Thx!

I wrote a comment in that thread, try to search for my posts and you should be able to see it. The micro adjustment gives a half of a link of adjustability in this application.


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[Ravager135]

Originally Posted by ap1

Don’t get me started on bond mesh. That thing was a joke on my 6.5. Was a horrible design. I haven’t tried the short version, not sure how I would get to test it. I have no confidence shortening it would make it more wearable but that’s speculation on my part.

That's extremely helpful. I have been on the fence about ordering the steel mesh bracelet they are offering now for my standard modern Seamaster 300M. I have not yet been able to try on the bracelet in person and I am reluctant to shell out $750 even if I can return it.

I have a larger wrist, but I tend to wear my bracelets tight. I have heard people rave about it, but then I have seen just as many people tell me how horrible the bracelet is. It looks beautiful and I want badly to swap out the standard bracelet for it, but that gaps and clasp thickness is really off-putting from what I can see.

[ap1]

Originally Posted by Ravager135

That's extremely helpful. I have been on the fence about ordering the steel mesh bracelet they are offering now for my standard modern Seamaster 300M. I have not yet been able to try on the bracelet in person and I am reluctant to shell out $750 even if I can return it.

I have a larger wrist, but I tend to wear my bracelets tight. I have heard people rave about it, but then I have seen just as many people tell me how horrible the bracelet is. It looks beautiful and I want badly to swap out the standard bracelet for it, but that gaps and clasp thickness is really off-putting from what I can see.

Yes so on my wrist which was like 2nd tightest slot, there where 3 layers on the bottom side of my wrist. Both strap sides and the bulky clasp if that makes sense. It was ridiculous

[liberalclown]

Video of the new clasp -> https://youtube.com/shorts/dU-FHQFOaCc?feature=share

[dr.ns23]

This new clasp is really cool! I got my watch in August 2022 and it doesn't have this push option! Do you think it would be easy to switch the current clasp with the newer one?

[omar-rye]

Originally Posted by dr.ns23

This new clasp is really cool! I got my watch in August 2022 and it doesn't have this push option! Do you think it would be easy to switch the current clasp with the newer one?

Yes its an easy fix but it will cost around $200 approximately

[dr.ns23]

Originally Posted by omar-rye

Yes its an easy fix but it will cost around $200 approximately

Thank you for the information! It might be worth doing it to be honest...

[DJ2020]

I was also looking for a Bracelet for my 41 AT. I found a Forstner type bracelet from uncle seiko that "looks" pretty good in the pictures and the website states it will fit the AT. Looks similar to the 57 bracelet. Does anyone know if these are worth buying at $129.00?
https://unclestraps.com/collections/...seamaster-300m

[tufa]

Those who managed to order the end link from the Chronoscope to fit the complete clasp and make it flush, would you mind sharing which boutique managed to fulfil the order?

I asked one of the butiques in London but the part shows as not possible to order, no price. I have the clasp with me already..

(Item no 118STZ013110 )

[Xin]

Anyone purchased the new 3861 from omega boutiques recently with the new clasp?
The boutique I ordered from is now giving me the old clasp and saying it doesn’t come with a 3861 speedy.

[dr.ns23]

Originally Posted by Xin

Anyone purchased the new 3861 from omega boutiques recently with the new clasp?
The boutique I ordered from is now giving me the old clasp and saying it doesn’t come with a 3861 speedy.

Yeah. check this:
https://www.rolexforums.com/showthre...1#post12479281

[Ketler]

I think a new clasp with micro adjustments would be nice.
Not sure I would buy one as my watch fits just fine…
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