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drockadam · 14 December 2011, 12:07 PM

Hello TRF Members,

I'm going through a Mont-Blanc phase here right now. I've lost on two auctions on e-Bay. I'm looking at used Meisterstrucks without boxes, either Platinum or Gold (Black Resin), Generation MB's or Vintage MB's. My parents are getting me a gift for Christmas, and I want it to be a pen. I'm trying to keep it under $150. If I fail to purchase a Mont-Blanc before Christmas. I'm going to end up possibly buying a Waterman pen.

The Waterman pen I'm considering is a Hemisphere GT (Chrome). Could some people chime in on Waterman pens? I really do have the rest of my life to have a Mont-Blanc, it isn't a priority.

Thanks!

oneillba · 14 December 2011, 01:20 PM

I have a Waterman roller ball -- I use it to fill out policies. I also have a bunch of Mont Blancs, like watches, they are fun to switch around.

Lion · 14 December 2011, 10:02 PM

I have a Waterman rollerball I bought about 15 years ago and it's a fantastic pen. But since rediscovering fountain pens...that's all I use now and carry two MBs everyday!!!

drockadam · 14 December 2011, 10:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lion

I have a Waterman rollerball I bought about 15 years ago and it's a fantastic pen. But since rediscovering fountain pens...that's all I use now and carry two MBs everyday!!!

Quote:

Originally Posted by oneillba

I have a Waterman roller ball -- I use it to fill out policies. I also have a bunch of Mont Blancs, like watches, they are fun to switch around.

Thanks for the feedback guys! Waterman's sound like great pens. It is my final choice if the Mont-Blanc thing doesn't go well.

Lion · 15 December 2011, 12:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drockadam

Thanks for the feedback guys! Waterman's sound like great pens. It is my final choice if the Mont-Blanc thing doesn't go well.

Definitely check out fountain pens as they ate the ultimate writing experience!!!

drockadam · 15 December 2011, 06:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Lion

Definitely check out fountain pens as they ate the ultimate writing experience!!!

I have a fountain pen coming, I purchased a cheap one on e-Bay to just try out a fountain pen. I'm going to stick with the ball point version of the Hemisphere GT. Either in Glossy Black/Chrome, Matte Black/Chrome or Glossy Black/Gold plating.

Rolexis · 15 December 2011, 06:31 AM

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Originally Posted by drockadam

I have a fountain pen coming, I purchased a cheap one on e-Bay to just try out a fountain pen. I'm going to stick with the ball point version of the Hemisphere GT. Either in Glossy Black/Chrome, Matte Black/Chrome or Glossy Black/Gold plating.

If you want a waterman instead of an MB maybe get ride of all the Rolex watches you may have and get a collection of Seikos

Lion · 15 December 2011, 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Rolexis

If you want a waterman instead of an MB maybe get ride of all the Rolex watches you may have and get a collection of Seikos

Now...now...let's play nice!!!

drockadam · 15 December 2011, 07:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rolexis

If you want a waterman instead of an MB maybe get ride of all the Rolex watches you may have and get a collection of Seikos

Haha! I don't have any Rolex's!!! Well not yet. I'd love a Mont-Blanc anyday! It's just that in my price range they are used. And mostly auctions on e-Bay. And I don't do too well in the auctions! The Waterman Hemisphere is my backup for my 2011 Christmas Pen present.

uzj100 · 28 December 2011, 05:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rolexis

If you want a waterman instead of an MB maybe get ride of all the Rolex watches you may have and get a collection of Seikos

Perhaps not a good way to come on here with my first post, but I have several MBs (including a Hemingway and other LE MBs) and IMHO my Waterman fountain pens write better.

I'll put on my flame suit now

2careless · 28 December 2011, 06:21 PM

If you want to find good writers, then all these modern LE editions will disappoint you. Go do some research on vintage German manufactures and you'll find the Soenneckens, Montblancs, Staedtlers and Osmia are the best writers of their era.
One day I'll fit a 14c flexi nib onto the Hemingway - best of both worlds

P.S. If you're into Watermans, try get one of those size 0 safety's. They are so tiny yet a fully functional pen!

dddrees · 29 December 2011, 02:57 AM

I've got a Waterman Carene Rollerball which is pretty nice. However since getting my Mont Blanc Roller Ball I have not looked back once.

drockadam · 29 December 2011, 03:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dddrees

I've got a Waterman Carene Rollerball which is pretty nice. However since getting my Mont Blanc Roller Ball I have not looked back once.

Haha! I got a MB instead of the Waterman! Can I have your Waterman?

dddrees · 29 December 2011, 04:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drockadam

Haha! I got a MB instead of the Waterman! Can I have your Waterman?

Sure, I'll trade my Waterman for a MB.

Lion · 29 December 2011, 05:22 AM

Well, I'd never trade a MontBlanc for a Waterman...but each to there own!!!

drockadam · 29 December 2011, 07:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dddrees

Sure, I'll trade my Waterman for a MB.

Haha! I didn't mean it that way! I love my MB! I just wanted your Waterman as well!

rolio · 4 January 2012, 07:02 AM

I have MB, Watermen, and Pelican. MB makes a great ball point and fountain pen; Waterman makes great BP, and decent fountain; Pelican, IMHO, makes the best FP and BP. For everyday use, you cannot beat the MB ball point pen. It simply is superb!

uzj100 · 5 January 2012, 12:56 AM

I too like the MB ball points and their roller ball models. Le Grand is my favorite roller ball, though I have a Waterman roller ball that I like very much.

2 careless, I find no difference writing wise between the LE FP s and the "regular" (e.g. 149) MB FP s. I'll check into those you've recommended. And thanks for the info!

Uh, dare I go into a discussion on cameras?

LOL

2careless · 5 January 2012, 06:41 AM

Vintage here means 1950s or earlier.
The modern 149s are just smooth wet writers. Seems to me they make 149s primarily as a signature pen nowadays...
If you want good writers out of modern pens, you need to send them to good nibmeisters for customization... But the resell value will be affected as it's not factory original anymore (for LE anyway).

Cameras... Bring it on! Not here in pen forum though.

uzj100 · 5 January 2012, 06:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2careless

Vintage here means 1950s or earlier.
The modern 149s are just smooth wet writers. Seems to me they make 149s primarily as a signature pen nowadays...
If you want good writers out of modern pens, you need to send them to good nibmeisters for customization... But the resell value will be affected as it's not factory original anymore (for LE anyway).

Cameras... Bring it on! Not here in pen forum though.

Uh, oh. I probably shouldn't have started this

gusto · 17 February 2012, 06:37 AM

I have a set of ~8 Waterman Expert ballpoint pens: yes they are heavy, but feel solid, no smearing, always ready to write, excellent selection of colors (I have black, dark brown, dark blue, French blue, oriental red, prussian green, copper, silver).

I find the Montblanc name and some of their styles a bit too flashy for my profession (I am already pushing it with the watch), and too lighweight feeling after years with Waterman Experts....although I really still want the 35981 (solitaire gold and black stripes).

If anyone has a slate blue expert ballpoint Waterman or any other odd color (I heard they made yellow) they want to sell, I am interested.

itsaswiss · 17 February 2012, 07:34 PM

I like the way the pilot ultra fine gel refill works for me so I'm now using it in my Waterman and Montblanc.

mboverst · 17 February 2012, 11:57 PM

My daily driver is a Waterman Carene. I own many pens, but this is the one I choose to carry around everyday and use.

jnkay · 18 February 2012, 12:30 PM

I have and enjoy both MB and a Waterman Carene. I carry the MB because of its light weight, and use the Carenevas my office pen because of its heft.

Power Play · 3 March 2012, 03:58 AM

I've got a bunch of MB's but my Waterman Roller Ball gets the most "finger time!"

Just like with watches, I find some variety to only add to the joy of using/wearing these fine tools.

oyvindmc · 3 March 2012, 07:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drockadam

The Waterman pen I'm considering is a Hemisphere GT (Chrome). Could some people chime in on Waterman pens? I really do have the rest of my life to have a Mont-Blanc, it isn't a priority.

You might end up having one Mont Blanc for the rest of your life, because of the quality

drockadam · 3 March 2012, 08:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oyvindmc

You might end up having one Mont Blanc for the rest of your life, because of the quality

Yes! I got the MB Meisterstuck Black Resin/Gold it is one fine writing instrument! I love writing with it, every day!

rishey067 · 27 October 2015, 05:04 PM

If you are looking for pens in that budget then i guess waterman pens would perfectly match your needs....

Bisquitlips · 28 October 2015, 12:08 PM

This is a thread from 2012. Methinks the OP has his pen.

EdipisReks · 15 November 2015, 01:52 PM

My waterman carene is smoother than any of my Montblancs (I have three 149s and three 146s), but it leaks a little. Excellent pens, I'd say. I have lots of pens, as was said, it's nice to switch around.

14 December 2011, 12:07 PM	#1
drockadam "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Real Name: Adam Location: Ontario, Canada Watch: Pepsi. Posts: 5,749	Waterman pens? Hello TRF Members, I'm going through a Mont-Blanc phase here right now. I've lost on two auctions on e-Bay. I'm looking at used Meisterstrucks without boxes, either Platinum or Gold (Black Resin), Generation MB's or Vintage MB's. My parents are getting me a gift for Christmas, and I want it to be a pen. I'm trying to keep it under $150. If I fail to purchase a Mont-Blanc before Christmas. I'm going to end up possibly buying a Waterman pen. The Waterman pen I'm considering is a Hemisphere GT (Chrome). Could some people chime in on Waterman pens? I really do have the rest of my life to have a Mont-Blanc, it isn't a priority. Thanks! __________________ - Adam Instagram: @GMTSUBTIME

14 December 2011, 01:20 PM	#2
oneillba "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Real Name: Brian Location: Hamilton, MI USA Watch: My beloved TT DJ Posts: 3,831	I have a Waterman roller ball -- I use it to fill out policies. I also have a bunch of Mont Blancs, like watches, they are fun to switch around. __________________ My Trusty TT DJ

14 December 2011, 10:02 PM	#3
Lion "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Real Name: Leo Location: Midwest Watch: GMT-II 16710 PEPSI Posts: 21,461	I have a Waterman rollerball I bought about 15 years ago and it's a fantastic pen. But since rediscovering fountain pens...that's all I use now and carry two MBs everyday!!! __________________ SS GMT-II 16710 PEPSI(Z-serial#) THE ONLY DIFFERENCE BETWEEN MEN AND BOYS IS THE PRICE OF THE TOYS!!! MontBlanc Meisterstuck Doue Silver Barley MontBlanc Meisterstuck Solitaire Doue Signum Proud Card Carrying Member of the Curmudgeons.....Yikes!!!

29 December 2011, 02:57 AM	#12
dddrees "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2010 Real Name: Dan Location: USA Watch: This N That Posts: 34,251	I've got a Waterman Carene Rollerball which is pretty nice. However since getting my Mont Blanc Roller Ball I have not looked back once. __________________ When it captures your imagination, that's when you know you have found your passion. Loyal Foot Soldier of The Nylon Nation. Card Carrying Member of the Global Association of Retro-Grouch-Curmudgeons

29 December 2011, 05:22 AM	#15
Lion "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Real Name: Leo Location: Midwest Watch: GMT-II 16710 PEPSI Posts: 21,461	Well, I'd never trade a MontBlanc for a Waterman...but each to there own!!! __________________ SS GMT-II 16710 PEPSI(Z-serial#) THE ONLY DIFFERENCE BETWEEN MEN AND BOYS IS THE PRICE OF THE TOYS!!! MontBlanc Meisterstuck Doue Silver Barley MontBlanc Meisterstuck Solitaire Doue Signum Proud Card Carrying Member of the Curmudgeons.....Yikes!!!

28 December 2011, 06:21 PM	#11
2careless "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Melbourne, AU Watch: Pepsi Posts: 4,370	If you want to find good writers, then all these modern LE editions will disappoint you. Go do some research on vintage German manufactures and you'll find the Soenneckens, Montblancs, Staedtlers and Osmia are the best writers of their era. One day I'll fit a 14c flexi nib onto the Hemingway - best of both worlds P.S. If you're into Watermans, try get one of those size 0 safety's. They are so tiny yet a fully functional pen!

4 January 2012, 07:02 AM	#17
rolio "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Real Name: justRay Location: Back2California Watch: Birdies Posts: 1,921	I have MB, Watermen, and Pelican. MB makes a great ball point and fountain pen; Waterman makes great BP, and decent fountain; Pelican, IMHO, makes the best FP and BP. For everyday use, you cannot beat the MB ball point pen. It simply is superb! __________________ JJ "Tranquil? Just wait till I get started!! LOL! LOL!" --JJ Rolex~By way of an extraordinary life, and all the simple pleasures it has to offer~

5 January 2012, 12:56 AM	#18
uzj100 "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: So Cal Posts: 9	I too like the MB ball points and their roller ball models. Le Grand is my favorite roller ball, though I have a Waterman roller ball that I like very much. 2 careless, I find no difference writing wise between the LE FP s and the "regular" (e.g. 149) MB FP s. I'll check into those you've recommended. And thanks for the info! Uh, dare I go into a discussion on cameras? LOL

5 January 2012, 06:41 AM	#19
2careless "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Melbourne, AU Watch: Pepsi Posts: 4,370	Vintage here means 1950s or earlier. The modern 149s are just smooth wet writers. Seems to me they make 149s primarily as a signature pen nowadays... If you want good writers out of modern pens, you need to send them to good nibmeisters for customization... But the resell value will be affected as it's not factory original anymore (for LE anyway). Cameras... Bring it on! Not here in pen forum though.

17 February 2012, 06:37 AM	#21
gusto "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Real Name: Steve Location: Woodland Hills CA Watch: 16628-Y, 16613-Y Posts: 13	I have a set of ~8 Waterman Expert ballpoint pens: yes they are heavy, but feel solid, no smearing, always ready to write, excellent selection of colors (I have black, dark brown, dark blue, French blue, oriental red, prussian green, copper, silver). I find the Montblanc name and some of their styles a bit too flashy for my profession (I am already pushing it with the watch), and too lighweight feeling after years with Waterman Experts....although I really still want the 35981 (solitaire gold and black stripes). If anyone has a slate blue expert ballpoint Waterman or any other odd color (I heard they made yellow) they want to sell, I am interested.

17 February 2012, 07:34 PM	#22
itsaswiss "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Hawaii Posts: 32	I like the way the pilot ultra fine gel refill works for me so I'm now using it in my Waterman and Montblanc.

17 February 2012, 11:57 PM	#23
mboverst "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Real Name: Matt Location: Dallas Posts: 1,683	My daily driver is a Waterman Carene. I own many pens, but this is the one I choose to carry around everyday and use.

18 February 2012, 12:30 PM	#24
jnkay "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: South Florida, US Watch: du jour Posts: 1,812	I have and enjoy both MB and a Waterman Carene. I carry the MB because of its light weight, and use the Carenevas my office pen because of its heft.

3 March 2012, 03:58 AM	#25
Power Play "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Minnesota Posts: 473	Thumbs up on Waterman I've got a bunch of MB's but my Waterman Roller Ball gets the most "finger time!" Just like with watches, I find some variety to only add to the joy of using/wearing these fine tools.

27 October 2015, 05:04 PM	#28
rishey067 "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2015 Location: Bangalore Posts: 1	If you are looking for pens in that budget then i guess waterman pens would perfectly match your needs....

28 October 2015, 12:08 PM	#29
Bisquitlips 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Real Name: Richard Location: USA Watch: YM Deep Space Posts: 12,501	This is a thread from 2012. Methinks the OP has his pen. __________________ Rolex Yacht-Master 40mm (SS-YG / Deep Space MOP) 16623 Breitling Aerospace Titanium / 18K with UTC. Omega Speedmaster 3510.50 Oris TT1 Pro Diver Regulator 43MM

15 November 2015, 01:52 PM	#30
EdipisReks Banned Join Date: Oct 2015 Location: Cincinnati Posts: 178	My waterman carene is smoother than any of my Montblancs (I have three 149s and three 146s), but it leaks a little. Excellent pens, I'd say. I have lots of pens, as was said, it's nice to switch around.

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