Rolex manufacturing defect ? AD says it’s not fake .

[Ksario]

Originally Posted by dba

First thing you need to do is put the microscope away. I bet if you do, all those flaws will disappear and you can just enjoy the watch.

Lol

[AzHadEnuf]

Originally Posted by yoniman

Impeccable, perfectly refined= GS
Go for Grand Seiko

Your Rolex is fine. It's just blemished. Look under the hood. If genuine 3135, you're good to go.

Originally Posted by myc ritz

Buy a Grand Seiko and drive them nuts too.

Too funny, I’ve worn Rolex for near 40 years, been on this forum about 6 years and every time this topic comes up I say to myself, “Well it won’t be long until the Grand Seiko guys chime in about if you wanted a perfect dial you should have bought a GS”.

Well I bought my first GS this week and after careful macro inspection all I can say is...





All you Grand Seiko guys are correct. The printing, finishing and date windows are perfect. There I said it.

[Nikrnic]

A 10X loupe is bad enough, or should I say good enough to find an imperfection on a Rolex. But My Goodness! A Microscope!!! ... Enjoy your Sub date, Its real... I have a Couple each, Rolex and Omega Subs, love both and the Rolex have nothing over the Omegas. They are far from being the perfect watch.

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[G.Montag]

Originally Posted by AzHadEnuf

Too funny, I’ve worn Rolex for near 40 years, been on this forum about 6 years and every time this topic comes up I say to myself, “Well it won’t be long until the Grand Seiko guys chime in about if you wanted a perfect dial you should have bought a GS”.

Well I bought my first GS this week and after careful macro inspection all I can say is...





All you Grand Seiko guys are correct. The printing, finishing and date windows are perfect. There I said it.

Is that a spec of dust on the 8 in 18?

[inadeje]

Originally Posted by Fleetlord

Return the watch for complete refund (if possible).

Exit Hobby as you will be driven mad by imperfection. It just isn’t going to be for you..

Your other choice is to accept imperfections and help yourself in the process

[B.F. Pigeon]

Originally Posted by Daniel2020

Hi

I just bought a 116610Ln from a website . The watch was first bought in Italy one month ago. I have been looking on the watch with a microscope for two days and found some defects . I’ve noticed a black dot on the 16:00 Dial , 3 dots on the edge of the glass (past and after 18:00 , and before 12:00) . I’ve also noticed à Particle of dust on number 2 in 23 in the date and the symmetry on number 5 in 25 . I took this watch to an AD and they claim that the watch is real and not fake . But they can’t promise me that they can fix these defects . They didn’t want to help me first . But when I said that I can pay for a functional test of the watch they said that they could look at it . They now tell me that the watch is real but they don’t know if they could fix these defects. Shouldn’t they send the watch to Rolex for a warranty claim ? Shouldn’t I be able to get it fixed for free ? I have 5 years left on the warranty . Have anybody seen or heard of defects like this on a real watch ?

I made the same mistake entering the forum with queries on absolutely minor imperfections on my watch; "loupes are for pateks" yadiyadayada. Although some of the above replies are a bit harsh, they are however correct; let go, enjoy the watch, wear the hell out of it as it is a wonderful piece.

[Al1969]

Anyone seen Padi?

[JohnnyM]

That is a stellar microscope, where may I ask did you buy it and what model is it?

[Old Expat Beast]

Originally Posted by yoniman

Impeccable, perfectly refined= GS
Go for Grand Seiko

This.

[samsmart]

You can't let stuff like this bother you. I was similar when I first got into collecting. The older I got, the poorer my vision became, and now they don't bother me nearly as bad.

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[Johnpierpontmorgan]

Who let this lunatic out?

[214270Explorer]

It is not the watch that has problems.

I have heard of using loupes before . . . but a MICROSCOPE?

Jeebus!

[aczaja10]

Originally Posted by dba

First thing you need to do is put the microscope away. I bet if you do, all those flaws will disappear and you can just enjoy the watch.

Ha. I second this.

[Shdrolex]

Originally Posted by Daniel2020

Hi

I just bought a 116610Ln from a website . The watch was first bought in Italy one month ago. I have been looking on the watch with a microscope for two days and found some defects . I’ve noticed a black dot on the 16:00 Dial , 3 dots on the edge of the glass (past and after 18:00 , and before 12:00) . I’ve also noticed à Particle of dust on number 2 in 23 in the date and the symmetry on number 5 in 25 . I took this watch to an AD and they claim that the watch is real and not fake . But they can’t promise me that they can fix these defects . They didn’t want to help me first . But when I said that I can pay for a functional test of the watch they said that they could look at it . They now tell me that the watch is real but they don’t know if they could fix these defects. Shouldn’t they send the watch to Rolex for a warranty claim ? Shouldn’t I be able to get it fixed for free ? I have 5 years left on the warranty . Have anybody seen or heard of defects like this on a real watch ?

Return the watch. It has too many defects. And dont get another Rolex, because almost all will have the same kind of defects, because seems like Rolex has quality control issues. Just my honest opinion.

[junamuan]

I have enjoyed reading all the comments.

[junamuan]

Originally Posted by AzHadEnuf

Too funny, I’ve worn Rolex for near 40 years, been on this forum about 6 years and every time this topic comes up I say to myself, “Well it won’t be long until the Grand Seiko guys chime in about if you wanted a perfect dial you should have bought a GS”.



Well I bought my first GS this week and after careful macro inspection all I can say is...











All you Grand Seiko guys are correct. The printing, finishing and date windows are perfect. There I said it.

I see tiny microscopic speck somewhere between hour markers.

[jimcarver]

Originally Posted by Daniel2020

😂. I just want to know if these things can happen. I have heard that It’s impossible for Rolex to make plenty mistakes like this . Especially on the newer models that’s must be 100% perfect , otherwise it’s probably fake . But Know I know it’s real and why shouldn’t I be able to get those defects fixed if they are not suppose to be there ? Because if it’s impossible for this watch to have come out from the Rolex factory like this , then someone have opened it . Maybe the dealer who bought it have had it authenticated and the defects came that way. Then it shouldn’t be a warranty claim . But if these things can happen at the Rolex factory I should be able to get it fixed . I personally doesn’t think these things can happen at a Rolex factory . But the dealer I bought it from says that Rolex must fix this otherwise he gives my my money back. I don’t know what to believe .

Second post I've read like this today. Don't worry about things that don't need worrying about.

You've just created a load of headache for yourself that you wouldn't have if you had just put the watch on and enjoyed it. I can't imagine ever buying a new watch and spending 2 days looking at it under a microscope.

[peterpl]

HAHAHAHAHA - LMFAO

Its a Rolex

[yoniman]

Originally Posted by amanbra

No true, my GS has flaws just like my omega's and rolexes... more importantly, rolex and omega service centres fix it if you point it out, with GS they tell you it's in spec and tell you to go away.

Oh, wow. It was a general perception the newer ones are near perfect.

May I see your GS in macro shot?
cheers

[troways]

Just sell it at MSRP, you can make 2 people happy including youself.

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[dcash0615]

Originally Posted by dba

First thing you need to do is put the microscope away. I bet if you do, all those flaws will disappear and you can just enjoy the watch.

Bingo! Do this

[Geckobros]

If you look for flaws, you will find them.

[Singslinger]

Originally Posted by Fleetlord

Return the watch for complete refund (if possible).

Exit Hobby as you will be driven mad by imperfection. It just isn’t going to be for you..

Your other choice is to accept imperfections and help yourself in the process

[padi56]

Originally Posted by SearChart

These are no quality control issues, these are OCD issues.

Not a single RSC will ever help you with this under 'warranty', put the loupe away, take a deep breath and just enjoy your new watch.

Have to agree Bas and just another simple plain true fact, high magnification can, and will be,a new Rolex owners worst enemy.

[amanbra]

Originally Posted by yoniman

Oh, wow. It was a general perception the newer ones are near perfect.

May I see your GS in macro shot?
cheers

Nah I only have a iPhone as a camera. The thing is GS are great watches and generally finish above their pay grade. The thing is there are flaws like all watches. I have a 5x loupe.


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[Bruno Datejust]

Originally Posted by Daniel2020

Besides the dust I mean the black dot on the dial-marker 4 0 clock and the black dots on the edge of the glass after 6 0 clock and before 12 0 clock . I probably am wrong but I have heard from so many people that Rolex doesn’t make mistakes like this . All new models must be perfect otherwise it’s probably fake . But I have have had it authenticated from an Rolex Ad . It’s real . But one employee says it’s impossible for Rolex to do this mistakes and another one says it can happen. So know it’s authenticated but I’m waiting for them to see what they are going to do with the “defects”. The dealer I bought it from takes back the watch and gives me my money back if they don’t fix it .

Well, you've already harvested quite harsh comments, so you should decide what you want: an authentic Rolex? a Rolex-looking watch, even if it's more than Rolex would give you? a perfect watch? a watch you can examine for two days under a microscope? Altogether in one watch seems to be quite impossible. Certainly put away the microscope and if you are satisfied with your watch, observing it closely with bare eye, and knowing it's authentic, and having all the prestige and the benefits of being a Rolex, you should be fine. Otherwise take a super-perfect Grand Seiko and be aware that you will have to give it away for a piece of bread if you change your mind. To be honest, I quickly checked out your photos and am simply unable to understand which are the spots and flares you are talking about. In general the printing is not crisp enough for a microscope, that's all. But I don't believe this should be a valid request.

[peterskinner]

How do you get through life? Nothing is ‘perfect.’ .......it’s all a bit messy, but we manage.
Just relax and enjoy the world around you. Now I’m going to examine our cat, in case it isn’t up to standard.

[jimcameron]

How did you clean your microscope and camera before taking the photos?

[ThatSubGuy]

Might not be a fake, but those imperfections looked at under a microscope will clearly have other people think it's fake.

Wouldn't wear that in public tbh, I understand your concerns. Send it to a RSC and have them fix it, embarrassing for Rolex.

[SearChart]

Originally Posted by Daniel2020

😂. I just want to know if these things can happen. I have heard that It’s impossible for Rolex to make plenty mistakes like this . Especially on the newer models that’s must be 100% perfect , otherwise it’s probably fake . But Know I know it’s real and why shouldn’t I be able to get those defects fixed if they are not suppose to be there ? Because if it’s impossible for this watch to have come out from the Rolex factory like this , then someone have opened it . Maybe the dealer who bought it have had it authenticated and the defects came that way. Then it shouldn’t be a warranty claim . But if these things can happen at the Rolex factory I should be able to get it fixed . I personally doesn’t think these things can happen at a Rolex factory . But the dealer I bought it from says that Rolex must fix this otherwise he gives my my money back. I don’t know what to believe .

Trust me, the dealer you bought it from is the only change of getting your money back.

RSC will not 'fix' any of this.