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Polarbears · 20 March 2018, 12:26 PM

My Black Rose runs well within COSC. These movements are modified and are quite impressive. 80’s Submariner’s that sell for $12k now used the same type of movement. There’s no escaping the fact that this watch will be collected and continue to gain value quickly. It’s an anomaly. An actual Rolex related product that had a few thousand made... Big money, buy one when you see one.

drmizzou · 20 March 2018, 01:14 PM

Just saw one with the eta movement in leather configuration with the red bezel in Vegas a few weeks ago selling at retail at the bellagio. Crazy to pay premium for that!

drmizzou · 20 March 2018, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by drmizzou

Just saw one with the eta movement in leather configuration with the red bezel in Vegas a few weeks ago selling at retail at the bellagio. Crazy to pay premium for that!

Not bellagio, it was Wynn at the watches of Switzerland store.

jh225 · 20 March 2018, 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by drmizzou

Just saw one with the eta movement in leather configuration with the red bezel in Vegas a few weeks ago selling at retail at the bellagio. Crazy to pay premium for that!

Red and Blue bezels are easily found in stores to this day. Black, not so much.

Polarbears · 20 March 2018, 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by drmizzou

Just saw one with the eta movement in leather configuration with the red bezel in Vegas a few weeks ago selling at retail at the bellagio. Crazy to pay premium for that!

Red??? I think you skipped the subject.

Jcy90 · 20 March 2018, 01:46 PM

The black bezel brings in the $$

watchmavan · 20 March 2018, 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by 904VT

They may have more upside than the new, but I'd take the in-house over ETA any day. ETA is everywhere in varying quality watches and brands and has been for years

Yes no one sees the movement and the dial is better. As far as movements go ETA does not detract from future value. Look at older Tudor Submariners selling for a fortune. They have run of the mill and ETA movements.

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33JS · 20 March 2018, 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Arthur Daley

Color me ignorant but what makes this ETA-movement watch special??? I'm not asking to be difficult, I just don't understand as a non-Tudor follower...

It's not special. Not at all. It's a watch that few wanted. That through the power of marketing, branding and generally daft watch-hysteria is now a 'must have' for some strange reason...
I sold mine with no regret.

$$$ value is destroying this once fabulous hobby.

opawlows · 20 March 2018, 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by 33JS

It's not special. Not at all. It's a watch that few wanted. That through the power of marketing, branding and generally daft watch-hysteria is now a 'must have' for some strange reason...
I sold mine with no regret.

$$$ value is destroying this once fabulous hobby.

No different than the LVC though. A year ago these were all over the boards selling for reasonable prices. Then rumours of it being discontinued surfaced and all of a sudden everyone NEEDS to have that one in their watchbox as well.

GsurgBM · 20 March 2018, 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Polarbears

Take it from me.... One must own the Black Rose. That said the best solution is to own both!

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Or all three

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opawlows · 20 March 2018, 11:32 PM

All three is the easiest...

Polarbears · 20 March 2018, 11:36 PM

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Originally Posted by GsurgBM

Or all three

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I was referring to ETA vs in House. That said your photo alone is worth the post. I think the days of collecting all 3 are dwindling. Getting the red is even getting harder. There are a million blues out there. And of course Black is impossible or a fortune.

Polarbears · 20 March 2018, 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by opawlows

All three is the easiest...

Great collection! Add a Ranger for the Rose Quad!

opawlows · 20 March 2018, 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Polarbears

Great collection! Add a Ranger for the Rose Quad!

Hopefully I'll be able to head down my local AD this weekend and check out the Ranger!

Was looking through the "Ranger" thread and it is definitely growing on me as well.

DHISTORY · 20 March 2018, 11:53 PM

eBay listing prices are out of whack. I’d rather quote the winning bid price as market rate.
Tudor at Sub money...Sub all day!

Polarbears · 20 March 2018, 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by opawlows

Hopefully I'll be able to head down my local AD this weekend and check out the Ranger!

Was looking through the "Ranger" thread and it is definitely growing on me as well.

I know I brought it up but this place is a bad influence. I’m trying to find a 2nd black bezel, and that Ranger has been calling my name too. I’m sure the Rose logo will be permanently gone from Tudor watches so of course I’m drawn to 🌹.

Polarbears · 20 March 2018, 11:57 PM

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Originally Posted by DHISTORY

eBay listing prices are out of whack. I’d rather quote the winning bid price as market rate.
Tudor at Sub money...Sub all day!

The difference is those sub’s are made in the millions. These prices are getting crazy. I think $5,000 will be the norm. $8000 is years away in my opinion, I could be wrong though.

rossi46 · 20 March 2018, 11:59 PM

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Originally Posted by 33JS

It's not special. Not at all. It's a watch that few wanted. That through the power of marketing, branding and generally daft watch-hysteria is now a 'must have' for some strange reason...
I sold mine with no regret.

$$$ value is destroying this once fabulous hobby.

Post of the year!

Polarbears · 21 March 2018, 12:01 AM

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Originally Posted by rossi46

Post of the year!

Post of the year?

Few wanted?

Tudor built their entire American come back on the back of the success of the Black Bay. Sounds like sour grapes.

Polarbears · 21 March 2018, 04:20 AM

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Originally Posted by opawlows

All three is the easiest...

Did you get the leather straps as well? I haven’t been a fan of the blue but I think the blue may look great on a leather strap. It could change my opinion.

opawlows · 21 March 2018, 04:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Polarbears

Did you get the leather straps as well? I haven’t been a fan of the blue but I think the blue may look great on a leather strap. It could change my opinion.

I got all of mine on bracelet. With all of the strap manufacturers out there I figured I would go that route when I want to switch things up. The blue would look great on a cognac/ tan strap. There's a few pics in the Black Bay thread with this combo and it looks awesome!

Vaxe · 21 March 2018, 04:59 AM

Don’t buy into hype, a modern Tudor inflated 200% to Sub money? Just don’t.

I thought fake lume was frowned at.

33JS · 21 March 2018, 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Polarbears

Post of the year?

Few wanted?

Tudor built their entire American come back on the back of the success of the Black Bay. Sounds like sour grapes.

How is it sour grapes? I don't miss it, struggled to sell it and it kept terrible time.

This is all pure hype and the bubble will burst sometime...

aquatimerfla · 21 March 2018, 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by zaydans

As others have suggested the listed price us just that. Very surprised if anyone in their right mind pays that price for an ETA movement that is essentially made by Swatch!!

here we go

aquatimerfla · 21 March 2018, 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Vaxe

Don’t buy into hype, a modern Tudor inflated 200% to Sub money? Just don’t.

I thought fake lume was frowned at.

And there 'disposable' movemnts

aquatimerfla · 21 March 2018, 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by watchmavan

Yes no one sees the movement and the dial is better. As far as movements go ETA does not detract from future value. Look at older Tudor Submariners selling for a fortune. They have run of the mill and ETA movements.

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All ETAs are not created equal

Ballzzz · 30 March 2018, 01:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Vaxe

Don’t buy into hype, a modern Tudor inflated 200% to Sub money? Just don’t.

I thought fake lume was frowned at.

Please elaborate?

Tudor uses fake lume?

Richmor · 30 March 2018, 02:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Wcdhtwn

I went to a Tudor dealer after the BB in house movements were released. They had several Rose BB's in stock. The sales lady tried to tell me to get one now as it will become collectible. I argued that an ETA would never become collectible when an improved in house movement was available. I chalked it up to "things AD's say". Whoops. Change the category to "things I should listen to and not dismiss without consideration".

Not all AD's are making false claims about the watch being collectible. I had an AD ask me about the popularity of the Tudor BBNoir watches. He told me that he has multiple calls most days from prospective buyers for the watch.

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20 March 2018, 12:26 PM	#31
Polarbears Banned Join Date: Aug 2017 Real Name: MJ Location: NYPA Watch: 16570 Posts: 957	My Black Rose runs well within COSC. These movements are modified and are quite impressive. 80’s Submariner’s that sell for $12k now used the same type of movement. There’s no escaping the fact that this watch will be collected and continue to gain value quickly. It’s an anomaly. An actual Rolex related product that had a few thousand made... Big money, buy one when you see one.

20 March 2018, 01:46 PM	#36
Jcy90 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2014 Real Name: Jonathan Location: New York Watch: GMT & SUB Posts: 703	The black bezel brings in the $$

20 March 2018, 11:53 PM	#45
DHISTORY "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: OC Watch: enthusiast Posts: 485	eBay listing prices are out of whack. I’d rather quote the winning bid price as market rate. Tudor at Sub money...Sub all day!

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Vaxe "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Austin TX Posts: 2,122	Don’t buy into hype, a modern Tudor inflated 200% to Sub money? Just don’t. I thought fake lume was frowned at.

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