Rolex 3235 running slow again.

[rsamerica911]

I have a 126600 sea dweller that was sent out for warranty about a year ago for the watch running slow. It came back and was running awesome. Now it’s slow again. I heard that Rolex was having some issues with this movement. I’m still under warranty, so I’ll send it back again. Does anyone know if Rolex has a permanent fix for this issue? Hate to send it back
Every year or two to fix this issue. Especially when it runs out of warranty. Love the watch, just annoyed.

[Stan Cooper]

When nearly a quarter of Rolexes with 32xx movements have issues and many are returned for warranty service more than once, it would certainly seem there's a problem and that in many cases Rolex service doesn't seem to fix the issue.

32xx movement problem poll and data thread

[Bizcut1]

Originally Posted by Stan Cooper

When nearly a quarter of Rolexes with 32xx movements have issues and many are returned for warranty service more than once, it would certainly seem there's a problem and that in many cases Rolex service doesn't seem to fix the issue.

https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=786299

Agreed. Time to move on...

[waterman1]

I should be receiving my sd43 back from RSC this week. Second time in 2 years. Same issue. I’m hoping this is the last time and they have a true fix now.

[Bladeshot]

I’ve got the new movement in some watches. No issues yet.

And I’ve got some older ones. Sure makes the 3135 look good.

I do like the new references…

But my 5-digit is a two-for-one deal.

[joli160]

I have Rolex watches with real 30 and 31 movements which are a true testimony of the rugged no nonsense quality. Some have run for decades without missing a beat.

Knowing quite well the new ones were inferior I bought one anyway and it didn’t surprise me The first year is OK and than it starts.
I don’t care for accuracy much so I will wear it until it dies on me.

Nice piece of jewelry, not much of a watch.

[OrangeSport]

I wouldn’t touch a watch with this movement

I know how much it would bug me if it had an issue

Much prefer the 31s. Had no serious issues with any of those which we’ve owned

[TswaneNguni]

Originally Posted by Bladeshot

Sure makes the 3135 look good.

20 years from now 116610LNs will be worth more than 126610LNs .

3135 is a rock star !!

[Gab27]

It's not clear. As far as we know, there is not a permanent fix at this time. However, the individual who would be best qualified to tell us if a permanent fix or an updated 'gen 2' movement has been rolled out hasn't posted on the forum in several months.

[cornerstore]

Had the same issues with a DJ 41. Watch ran within specs for a year and then just started losing time. Information I got online indicated it may be a problem with the lubrication. I placed my DJ under hot water for a short while, reset the time I had no further issues. So in my case at least it appeared to be a lubrication issue.

[Bladeshot]

Originally Posted by TswaneNguni

20 years from now 116610LNs will be worth more than 126610LNs .

3135 is a rock star !!

I buy NOS parts for 3135 when I can.

[dannyp]

Originally Posted by cornerstore

Had the same issues with a DJ 41. Watch ran within specs for a year and then just started losing time. Information I got online indicated it may be a problem with the lubrication. I placed my DJ under hot water for a short while, reset the time I had no further issues. So in my case at least it appeared to be a lubrication issue.

What does the heat have to do with this? Getting the lubrication to circulate better?

[7enderbender]

5-digit Rolex, air-cooled Porsche, pre-2020 Speedmaster, pre-CBS Fender Strats…some things were done right before the “improvements” came in and made a big mess.

[saxo3]

Silent Repair
https://www.rolexforums.com/showpost...postcount=2579

[cornerstore]

Originally Posted by dannyp

What does the heat have to do with this? Getting the lubrication to circulate better?

That’s what it seems to me. Apparently the lubrication is pooling in areas from what I read. Heat should get it moving around in theory. I only had the issues when I didn’t wear the watch for a period of time, if it was on my wrist 24 /7 no issues. The heat worked on a couple occasions before I sold the watch. Maybe just a coincidence

[Fred_Tan]

Ditto on hot bath

[omar10213245]

Can anyone actually put into words what the specific differences are, beween the 3135 and the 3235 movements?? Different balance bridge? Larger mainspring barrel? Different formulation of lubrication? I honestly dont know what separates one from the other...

[dannyp]

Originally Posted by cornerstore

That’s what it seems to me. Apparently the lubrication is pooling in areas from what I read. Heat should get it moving around in theory. I only had the issues when I didn’t wear the watch for a period of time, if it was on my wrist 24 /7 no issues. The heat worked on a couple occasions before I sold the watch. Maybe just a coincidence

Curious what position you were storing it in, too? Also how slow was it?

Originally Posted by Fred_Tan

Ditto on hot bath

Very interesting! At what temperature do you risk compromising gaskets?

[Fred_Tan]

Originally Posted by dannyp

Curious what position you were storing it in, too? Also how slow was it?



Very interesting! At what temperature do you risk compromising gaskets?

No one can tell: cos I think the boilers only operate to 60C if it’s a CE certified.
And I don’t think anyone jump into the private home bath at max 60C (public hot spring in Japan, Taiwan, Nordic & Scandinavia are 66C max).

So far, no issues even at 66C as no one in this forum or any watch forum has ever complained they cooked their watch lube longevity in any Onsens or hot mineral spa or public baths before

[Fred_Tan]

HIIT, off-road biking, racetrack car racing also works.
Basically the idea is to ensure the capillary effect works on the dial-plate (the big plate below the dial).
The dial-plate dries up quickly for this no-direct-lube design.

Note: just make sure you don’t fall with the watch scrapping on the tarmac/rocks

[amanbra]

Originally Posted by rsamerica911

I have a 126600 sea dweller that was sent out for warranty about a year ago for the watch running slow. It came back and was running awesome. Now it’s slow again. I heard that Rolex was having some issues with this movement. I’m still under warranty, so I’ll send it back again. Does anyone know if Rolex has a permanent fix for this issue? Hate to send it back
Every year or two to fix this issue. Especially when it runs out of warranty. Love the watch, just annoyed.

it's extremely annoying, there is only one watch which has sentimental value where I'll persist with repairs, otherwise I sell the watch if notice this issue.

I've also stopped buying 32XX movements watches.

Now one bit of possible good news for you, my DJ which had to go in twice for this issue is doing very well post 2nd service but I'm only 8 months into post service so no one is celebrating anything yet.

Bad news, my Nov 2021 Day Date looks like it's going to go bad... Good news time for a new watch =)

[dannyp]

Originally Posted by Fred_Tan

No one can tell: cos I think the boilers only operate to 60C if it’s a CE certified.
And I don’t think anyone jump into the private home bath at max 60C (public hot spring in Japan, Taiwan, Nordic & Scandinavia are 66C max).

So far, no issues even at 66C as no one in this forum or any watch forum has ever complained they cooked their watch lube longevity in any Onsens or hot mineral spa or public baths before

I'd be more concerned about compromising water resistance depending on what temperatures the gaskets are meant to withstand.

[Calatrava r]

Originally Posted by omar10213245

Can anyone actually put into words what the specific differences are, beween the 3135 and the 3235 movements?? Different balance bridge? Larger mainspring barrel? Different formulation of lubrication? I honestly dont know what separates one from the other...

https://www.bobswatches.com/rolex-bl...iber-3235.html


A good article on this.

[douglasf13]

Originally Posted by omar10213245

Can anyone actually put into words what the specific differences are, beween the 3135 and the 3235 movements?? Different balance bridge? Larger mainspring barrel? Different formulation of lubrication? I honestly dont know what separates one from the other...

Apparently 90% of the parts are new, but some of the key differences: ball bearing rotor, chronergy escapement, mainspring barrel with thinner walls, updated parachrome hairspring, new high performance lubricant…

[Fred_Tan]

Originally Posted by dannyp

I'd be more concerned about compromising water resistance depending on what temperatures the gaskets are meant to withstand.

Don’t worry.
These watch have mineral lube and gaskets spec for 100m minimum & 20yrs ops.
If it’s so easy to change the properties of the rubber gasket and mineral; those of us owning AP, Patek, Cartier, Hublot, RM would have cried foul decades ago.
A simple 30min hot bath with lit cigar, flaming scotch, & steamy Netflix running in e background won’t do harm.
A slip may

[FTX I]

Originally Posted by OrangeSport

I wouldn’t touch a watch with this movement

I know how much it would bug me if it had an issue

Much prefer the 31s. Had no serious issues with any of those which we’ve owned

I'm with you on that Jason.

[Harry-57]

I have two 32 based watches, one from Feb 2020 and one from Oct 2021. So far all good. The rest are 31 based. Two of these have failed within 2 years of purchase from new, both mainspring failures.

If I had a new watch that developed time keeping faults twice within its initial 5 year warranty period and the fault was well known and considered unresolved by owners, I'd be selling it the day after it came back from its second repair.

[cornerstore]

Originally Posted by dannyp

Curious what position you were storing it in, too? Also how slow was it?



Very interesting! At what temperature do you risk compromising gaskets?

Generally stored on its back. It was running 20 minutes slow over a few days. I just ran it under hot tap water. Do it now to all my watches periodically. I once froze an Omega to see if it would stop and stop it did .

[dannyp]

Originally Posted by cornerstore

Generally stored on its back. It was running 20 minutes slow over a few days. I just ran it under hot tap water. Do it now to all my watches periodically. I once froze an Omega to see if it would stop and stop it did .

Very interesting, especially about the heat piece.

How long does the watch go back to normal timekeeping for after you do this, until you have to do it again?

[Galaga167]

Originally Posted by 7enderbender

5-digit Rolex, air-cooled Porsche, pre-2020 Speedmaster, pre-CBS Fender Strats…some things were done right before the “improvements” came in and made a big mess.

Just like when Seiko went from the 6R15 to 6R35. Longer power reserve but it killed accuracy.