RSC Movement Service Question

[Chewbacca]

does anyone know for certain whether rolex (corporate & ad's) updates pre-2004 model watches at services? ie: parachrom hairsprings, newer spec oils, gaskets, springbars etc...? or do they use the original spec ones from the parts bin that were originally spec'd for particular calibres when manufactured?


thanks

[caryyee]

Nope, they will replace parts like with like, Rolex won't upgrade them during a service.

[Chewbacca]

Originally Posted by caryyee

Nope, they will replace parts like with like, Rolex won't upgrade them during a service.

thanks!

[Rikki]

Oils and oiling techniques are always evolving and are used to service all models old and new,but upgrading balance wheels is not on the menu. Rikki

[Chewbacca]

Originally Posted by Rikki

Oils and oiling techniques are always evolving and are used to service all models old and new,but upgrading balance wheels is not on the menu. Rikki

thanks again! although, why not? figured you may know...

[Marrk]

Originally Posted by caryyee

Nope, they will replace parts like with like, Rolex won't upgrade them during a service.

Right. Except that they are not using Nivarox hairsprings any more. They are instead making their own hairsprings. Even if you are correct, you will be correct only until they run out of their supply of Nivarox hairsprings.

[Chewbacca]

Originally Posted by Marrk

Right. Except that they are not using Nivarox hairsprings any more. They are instead making their own hairsprings. Even if you are correct, you will be correct only until they run out of their supply of Nivarox hairsprings.

yes, this sounds plausible too because i overhauled a 14060M and ended up getting a sapphire crystal WITH the rolex laser crown etched thing at 6 o'clock when my 14060M never came with it. i also got a bezel insert with an off greenish (more blue) color as opposed to the true green as on the indices. it'll be interesting to see if the parachrom ms will be the defacto replacement in the coming years.

[padi56]

Originally Posted by Chewbacca

yes, this sounds plausible too because i overhauled a 14060M and ended up getting a sapphire crystal WITH the rolex laser crown etched thing at 6 o'clock when my 14060M never came with it. i also got a bezel insert with an off greenish (more blue) color as opposed to the true green as on the indices. it'll be interesting to see if the parachrom ms will be the defacto replacement in the coming years.

Well it was from around 2001 the Laser Etched Hologram In Crystal started on most Rolex models.Now the 14060M modified sub came out 2001 as well so its possible early 14060M subs did not have a LEC on crystal but no big deal either way.But what I cannot understand is what you state about the bezel insert off greenish (more blue) color as opposed to the true green as on the indices.????.And will add its not possible just to change the hairspring as these must be matched and balanced to the balance wheel so the whole escapement would have to be changed.And in the life of any watch the hairspring is very very very seldom replaced.And there is nothing magical about the parachrom in the real world,I would doubt if you would notice any real difference in performance ,no matter the name of hairspring in the case.

[Chewbacca]

Originally Posted by padi56

Well it was from around 2001 the Laser Etched Hologram In Crystal started on most Rolex models.Now the 14060M modified sub came out 2001 as well so its possible early 14060M subs did not have a LEC on crystal but no big deal either way.But what I cannot understand is what you state about the bezel insert off greenish (more blue) color as opposed to the true green as on the indices.????.And will add its not possible just to change the hairspring as these must be matched and balanced to the balance wheel so the whole escapement would have to be changed.And in the life of any watch the hairspring is very very very seldom replaced.And there is nothing magical about the parachrom in the real world,I would doubt if you would notice any real difference in performance ,no matter the name of hairspring in the case.

thanks! its a different shade of green but with a blueish tint... not as extreme as a dssd or newer model but not as green as the factory spec on the older ones.... my guess is it may be from a different rolex supplier as i've heard rolex has several.

[padi56]

Originally Posted by Chewbacca

thanks! its a different shade of green but with a blueish tint... not as extreme as a dssd or newer model but not as green as the factory spec on the older ones.... my guess is it may be from a different rolex supplier as i've heard rolex has several.

On the 14060M unless my eyes deceive the bezel insert has always been black with silver numbers.

[77T]

Originally Posted by padi56

On the 14060M unless my eyes deceive the bezel insert has always been black with silver numbers.

You're not color blind

[mrbill2mrbill2]

Originally Posted by padi56

On the 14060M unless my eyes deceive the bezel insert has always been black with silver numbers.

On a 14060 all I've even seen is black bezel with silver markers.

cheers:

[gwalker]

They do not "upgrade" the movements. I'm sure they do use the newer oils and seals made of better materials than those in the past. IMHO the "new" hairspring is 99.99% marketing BS. No real world benefit over the previous version. Rolex really should upgrade the movements with longer power reserves etc and not just this smoke and mirror marketing stuff.

[Chewbacca]

Originally Posted by padi56

On the 14060M unless my eyes deceive the bezel insert has always been black with silver numbers.

ffs padi, i'm talking about the pear under light, not the whole bezel insert... you must be an engineer. lol