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5 December 2019, 02:09 AM | #301 |
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5 December 2019, 01:26 PM | #303 |
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5524 prices are way down lately.
Doesn't stop me from wanting one, obviously. But still, I really hate speculative bubbles -- even small localized ones. |
5 December 2019, 02:40 PM | #304 |
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I hope that’s true! Do you think down to and below MSRP like the 5524 is, in time? Personally I’m hoping, then they’d be obtainable and decent price, the current price is outrageous!
Also any comparison in how it wears compared to 5524? I love the size of 5524 and worry this is too small for me at 40mm. |
5 December 2019, 02:55 PM | #305 |
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That because....... "We getting some new SS Calatrava’s for 2020???"..
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5 December 2019, 04:35 PM | #306 |
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I love these sorts of comments. What did ‘someone’ say about RM prices softening?
To be fair I would assume the market is still working on the ‘used’ price level based on demand and supply, the piece is still pretty new and in a slightly different in demand segment for a Patek - that price level might be below list, it might be above list, as always, buy because you love it! |
5 December 2019, 04:38 PM | #307 |
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It's not even a steel sports watch!
Inefficient markets are, well, inefficient. |
6 December 2019, 01:54 AM | #308 |
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That they are! I grabbed one as a result. It's a killer watch IMO.
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6 December 2019, 02:32 AM | #309 |
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My 5212 finally arrived today - and I immediately switched to the 5712 strap and deployant that I got at the Geneva Salon.
(I'm a bad boy .... 2 watches in a week!) |
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Congrats! That looks fantastic!
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I gots no skin in the game... I’m just passing along what someone I respect said... and that someone is in the know. Lol... it is still at a premium. Just coming down that’s all. The RM’s coming down too, like John said it might fall a lot after the holidays. |
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10 December 2019, 04:15 PM | #316 |
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Yeah the watches are being delivered and the flippers are flipping with 70% premium.
Not sure Patek will ever control this behaviour... Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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11 December 2019, 01:12 AM | #318 |
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11 December 2019, 01:23 AM | #319 |
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I think people underestimate how important the secondary market is for these brands...the higher it trades on the secondary... the more demand there is. Real time feedback which allows them to alter their selling strategy and also potentially the designs.
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11 December 2019, 02:11 AM | #323 |
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Being happy a piece is popular and selling above retail does not exclude wanting to stop flippers - stopping flippers will actually drive the price even higher on the secondary.
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11 December 2019, 05:18 AM | #324 |
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honestly, i think TS's talk against flipping is empty like the eggs we use for easter tree decoration. flipping takes nothing away from PP and as i said the high grey market prices contribute to their aura.
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(As mentioned above in case some people missed it, the 5712 strap is easily available at Geneva Salon - they won't let me order in Hong Kong through my AD.) Last edited by qrc36; 11 December 2019 at 03:45 PM.. Reason: link doesn't work ... will try to fix |
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11 December 2019, 04:32 PM | #326 |
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Looks awesome. The 5172 strap fits it quite well. What is the strap size for the 5212? 21x16?
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11 December 2019, 09:17 PM | #327 |
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ps: some ADs do mind flipping (typically those that don't do it themselves) because it makes them look bad infront of their customers, others do not care at all and happily sell to greys.
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11 December 2019, 10:05 PM | #328 |
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I sold a 5167 about 8 months after I got it to WF. As a seperate discussion Rhone phoned my AD to ask why I had sold it so soon. They pointed out it was replaced by xxx and xxxx. They do monitor or it could just be because i am a bit sleazy
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11 December 2019, 10:58 PM | #329 |
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in the first place how did Rhone find out? did you tell the AD???
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12 December 2019, 12:10 AM | #330 |
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Nope. The AD phoned me to ask following a call from Rhone. Also it wasnt as though the watch was sold after a week...was a fair length of time. One theory is they are able to monitor the time between registrations and have a time threshold.
I know for a fact that they do employ phantom shoppers who look for watches (greys in particular) to see where they are sourced. Maybe there. |
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