The Rolex Forums   The Rolex Watch

ROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEX

Old 25 August 2019, 07:00 PM   #61
mongrelnomoad
2020 Pledge Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2019
Location: Here and there...
Posts: 449
By god this is a gorgeous watch.
mongrelnomoad is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 25 August 2019, 07:06 PM   #62
korneevy
"TRF" Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2013
Real Name: Yev
Location: SG/GVA/NYC/MEL ->
Watch: AP, RLX, BP
Posts: 166
Quote:
Originally Posted by Russell996 View Post
I was going to ask if you have seen the piece in the flesh but I note this kind of post is your normal modus operandi so I will just say constructive posts are generally better than confrontational ones.


Well thatís like your opinion man. Good to have one. I do as well. Enjoy
korneevy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 26 August 2019, 02:57 AM   #63
Calatrava r
2020 Pledge Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2017
Real Name: Bob
Location: United States
Watch: Rolex and Patek
Posts: 3,193
Quote:
Originally Posted by korneevy View Post
Wow this date window...screams "$500 mall watch". Cope it with the weird wonky font, and if I didn't know it was a genuine Patek product, I'd put a wager that it is an $50 fake from the beach kiosk in Turkey (obviously, face up only). Not my cup of tea and even more so at $35K.
There were some naysayers when the watch was first announced on the forums. But the overwhelming opinion now seems to be this is a very special well thought out piece with a useful complication. Additionally the watch has a new movement to include a stop seconds function and manual winding so the owner does not need a winding box. Prior Patek automatics were only to wound about 8 winds as everything was engaged and damage could occur. Now there is a clutch to free the rotor while winding.
Calatrava r is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 26 August 2019, 03:29 AM   #64
Russell996
2020 Pledge Member
 
Russell996's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2016
Location: UK
Posts: 2,646
Quote:
Originally Posted by Calatrava r View Post
There were some naysayers when the watch was first announced on the forums. But the overwhelming opinion now seems to be this is a very special well thought out piece with a useful complication. Additionally the watch has a new movement to include a stop seconds function and manual winding so the owner does not need a winding box. Prior Patek automatics were only to wound about 8 winds as everything was engaged and damage could occur. Now there is a clutch to free the rotor while winding.
I’ve never understood the instruction to be that you can ONLY wind it 8 turns (manual says 10), i‘ve understood it that you can start the watch on this amount of turns (10) but equally you can then fully wind if you wish. I always 3/4 wind after a watch stops - I will ask.
I know the new movement has no safe zones and the time can be adjusted forward and backwards but then so can the 324 on which it is based.
__________________
Instagram @scu16m
Russell996 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 26 August 2019, 04:33 AM   #65
Calatrava r
2020 Pledge Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2017
Real Name: Bob
Location: United States
Watch: Rolex and Patek
Posts: 3,193
Quote:
Originally Posted by Russell996 View Post
Iíve never understood the instruction to be that you can ONLY wind it 8 turns (manual says 10), iĎve understood it that you can start the watch on this amount of turns (10) but equally you can then fully wind if you wish. I always 3/4 wind after a watch stops - I will ask.
"The automatic winding mechanism has been overhauled, starting from a more secure nut holding the rotor instead of a simple screw; a spiral spring on the click wheel for smooth and adjustment-free ratcheting; the addition of an uncoupling reduction wheel with integrated clutch for the ability to manually wind the barrel; and a similar uncoupling wheel with a unidirectional clutch.
There is a patent pending for the uncoupling clutches as well as patents for a few features in the weekly calendar mechanism."

This is from the Quill and Pad review of the 5212A. Check it out but older automatic movements should not be regularly fully wound unless they are designed for both manual winding and automatic winding. Best to invest in a winding box if not regularly worn. When I bought an automatic Grand Seiko it specifically said the watch was designed to both be manually wound and automatically with no harm to the movement.
Calatrava r is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 26 August 2019, 04:42 AM   #66
Russell996
2020 Pledge Member
 
Russell996's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2016
Location: UK
Posts: 2,646
Quote:
Originally Posted by Calatrava r View Post
"The automatic winding mechanism has been overhauled, starting from a more secure nut holding the rotor instead of a simple screw; a spiral spring on the click wheel for smooth and adjustment-free ratcheting; the addition of an uncoupling reduction wheel with integrated clutch for the ability to manually wind the barrel; and a similar uncoupling wheel with a unidirectional clutch.
There is a patent pending for the uncoupling clutches as well as patents for a few features in the weekly calendar mechanism."

This is from the Quill and Pad review of the 5212A. Check it out but older automatic movements should not be regularly fully wound unless they are designed for both manual winding and automatic winding. Best to invest in a winding box if not regularly worn. When I bought an automatic Grand Seiko it specifically said the watch was designed to both be manually wound and automatically with no harm to the movement.
I will check it out.

Edit. Having read Quill&Pad review and Pateks own instructions I’m still of the opinion that you can manually wind 324, 240 etc movements. Patek seem to be saying 10 complete clockwise turns of the crown winds the watch - nothing in the instruction manual about not winding as far as I can see.
__________________
Instagram @scu16m
Russell996 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 26 August 2019, 05:29 AM   #67
pam66
"TRF" Member
 
Join Date: May 2017
Location: cambridge
Posts: 1,928
my 5212A allocation will come in december. not sure about the watch though.
pam66 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 26 August 2019, 09:00 AM   #68
Futuristic
Banned
 
Join Date: Dec 2018
Location: panama city
Posts: 189
The blue strap looks good
Futuristic is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 29 August 2019, 02:04 AM   #69
Pim
"TRF" Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2019
Location: Netherlands
Posts: 123
Well, it happened, the first weekly is on chrono24. I phoned them and it was sold within a couple of hours. They are getting another one in one month, so that will be coming up for sale.

If you love the watch, and you have 80.000 euro, give them a call! I had to politely decline, way out of my league
Pim is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 29 August 2019, 10:33 AM   #70
tchaic
"TRF" Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2015
Real Name: Chris
Location: USA
Watch: Tag Heuer 2000
Posts: 445
Great watch! Still patiently waiting.
tchaic is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 29 August 2019, 10:53 AM   #71
guanxi
"TRF" Member
 
guanxi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2019
Location: Hong Kong
Posts: 66
Got my delivery slot ę†confirmed†Ľ by Patek Salon in Paris for Nov/Dec, fingers crossed.
guanxi is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 29 August 2019, 09:38 PM   #72
Ichiran
"TRF" Member
 
Ichiran's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2018
Real Name: Michael
Location: Ramen queue
Watch: Mostly blue dials
Posts: 2,633
Quote:
Originally Posted by guanxi View Post
Got my delivery slot ę†confirmed†Ľ by Patek Salon in Paris for Nov/Dec, fingers crossed.
Awesome! Congrats!
Ichiran is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 30 August 2019, 03:01 AM   #73
Xerxes77
2020 Pledge Member
 
Xerxes77's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2017
Real Name: Cosmin
Location: Romania
Watch: PP AP Rolex
Posts: 2,272
My AD from Spain told me that this year AP delayed delivery.
Xerxes77 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 30 August 2019, 03:53 AM   #74
guanxi
"TRF" Member
 
guanxi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2019
Location: Hong Kong
Posts: 66
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ichiran View Post
Awesome! Congrats!


Thanks, it is looking good but please letís wait for the fat lady to sing before lighting up the cigar...Hopefully will celebrate and share with a nice INCOMING!
guanxi is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 30 August 2019, 11:00 PM   #75
DGP
"TRF" Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2019
Location: UK
Posts: 51
Arrived

Picked up my 5212A yesterday. AD said it was the only one that they are having this year and he had 8 customers wanting one!
Been looking for a weekly calendar for over 10 years (Iím in the financial industry). Came close to buying a Glashutte a few years back. Now so glad I didnít and thought my prayers had been answered when I saw the press release of the 5212A
PS The white background in the date window is far more subtle in real life (the flash photography must highlight it).
DGP is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 30 August 2019, 11:44 PM   #76
Russell996
2020 Pledge Member
 
Russell996's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2016
Location: UK
Posts: 2,646
Quote:
Originally Posted by DGP View Post
Picked up my 5212A yesterday. AD said it was the only one that they are having this year and he had 8 customers wanting one!
Been looking for a weekly calendar for over 10 years (Iím in the financial industry). Came close to buying a Glashutte a few years back. Now so glad I didnít and thought my prayers had been answered when I saw the press release of the 5212A
PS The white background in the date window is far more subtle in real life (the flash photography must highlight it).
Wonderful news!

Of course without pictures it didn't happen.
__________________
Instagram @scu16m
Russell996 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 31 August 2019, 12:33 AM   #77
whuang29
"TRF" Member
 
Join Date: May 2018
Location: Yangon
Posts: 178
Quote:
Originally Posted by DGP View Post
Picked up my 5212A yesterday. AD said it was the only one that they are having this year and he had 8 customers wanting one!

Been looking for a weekly calendar for over 10 years (Iím in the financial industry). Came close to buying a Glashutte a few years back. Now so glad I didnít and thought my prayers had been answered when I saw the press release of the 5212A

PS The white background in the date window is far more subtle in real life (the flash photography must highlight it).


Congrats and please post photos when you get the chance


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
whuang29 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 31 August 2019, 12:35 AM   #78
Ichiran
"TRF" Member
 
Ichiran's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2018
Real Name: Michael
Location: Ramen queue
Watch: Mostly blue dials
Posts: 2,633
Quote:
Originally Posted by DGP View Post
Picked up my 5212A yesterday. AD said it was the only one that they are having this year and he had 8 customers wanting one!
Been looking for a weekly calendar for over 10 years (Iím in the financial industry). Came close to buying a Glashutte a few years back. Now so glad I didnít and thought my prayers had been answered when I saw the press release of the 5212A
PS The white background in the date window is far more subtle in real life (the flash photography must highlight it).
Pls rack up 9 more posts to post pics. Congrats nonetheless!
Ichiran is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 31 August 2019, 12:52 AM   #79
DGP
"TRF" Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2019
Location: UK
Posts: 51
Sorry I’m a Luddite!
I’ll have one of my kids upload a pic later today.
I’m more into true craftsmanship (i.e. Patek’s) rather than technology!
DGP is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 31 August 2019, 01:02 AM   #80
Russell996
2020 Pledge Member
 
Russell996's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2016
Location: UK
Posts: 2,646
Quote:
Originally Posted by DGP View Post
Sorry Iím a Luddite!
Iíll have one of my kids upload a pic later today.
Iím more into true craftsmanship (i.e. Patekís) rather than technology!
You will need 10 plus posts to upload pictures and I would recommend Tapatalk app for uploading.
__________________
Instagram @scu16m
Russell996 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 31 August 2019, 01:28 AM   #81
lguevara91
"TRF" Member
 
lguevara91's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2018
Location: Texas
Posts: 286
what is msrp on this piece 33k?
__________________
lguevara91 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 31 August 2019, 01:30 AM   #82
DGP
"TRF" Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2019
Location: UK
Posts: 51
Only just joined. Didn’t release about 10 posts rule.
When I’ve thought of 7 more interesting things to post I’ll have the kids post a pic.
Wound my AD up yesterday, just spent 2 hours chatting, after concluding business and last going off I expressed my desire for a 5231J.
Off one waiting list, but hopefully will be put on another.
DGP is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 31 August 2019, 02:06 AM   #83
Fat_ninja
"TRF" Member
 
Fat_ninja's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2018
Real Name: Jonathan
Location: USA
Watch: P-01
Posts: 10,699
Quote:
Originally Posted by DGP View Post
Only just joined. Didnít release about 10 posts rule.
When Iíve thought of 7 more interesting things to post Iíll have the kids post a pic.
Wound my AD up yesterday, just spent 2 hours chatting, after concluding business and last going off I expressed my desire for a 5231J.
Off one waiting list, but hopefully will be put on another.
Rule 1 donít get banned...
Fat_ninja is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 31 August 2019, 02:12 AM   #84
Pim
"TRF" Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2019
Location: Netherlands
Posts: 123
Quote:
Originally Posted by DGP View Post
Picked up my 5212A yesterday. AD said it was the only one that they are having this year and he had 8 customers wanting one!
Been looking for a weekly calendar for over 10 years (Iím in the financial industry). Came close to buying a Glashutte a few years back. Now so glad I didnít and thought my prayers had been answered when I saw the press release of the 5212A
PS The white background in the date window is far more subtle in real life (the flash photography must highlight it).
Damn, congrats !.. I am officially jealous
Pim is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 31 August 2019, 02:15 AM   #85
Pim
"TRF" Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2019
Location: Netherlands
Posts: 123
Quote:
Originally Posted by lguevara91 View Post
what is msrp on this piece 33k?
31K in euros, and there are still thousands waiting in line.... Patek is doing something very right to see this happen :)
Pim is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 31 August 2019, 02:51 AM   #86
DGP
"TRF" Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2019
Location: UK
Posts: 51
Quote:
Originally Posted by Fat_ninja View Post
Rule 1 donít get banned...
Good advice will do my best not to get banned!
DGP is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 31 August 2019, 02:55 AM   #87
DGP
"TRF" Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2019
Location: UK
Posts: 51
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pim View Post
Damn, congrats !.. I am officially jealous
Thanks Pim, after this post Iím now halfway to being able to post a photo
DGP is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 31 August 2019, 03:00 AM   #88
Pim
"TRF" Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2019
Location: Netherlands
Posts: 123
Quote:
Originally Posted by DGP View Post
Thanks Pim, after this post Iím now halfway to being able to post a photo




You can make another post by just putting your full address here

O and when is the weekly home alone ?? Just asking for a friend !
Pim is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 31 August 2019, 04:43 AM   #89
Russell996
2020 Pledge Member
 
Russell996's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2016
Location: UK
Posts: 2,646
Quote:
Originally Posted by DGP View Post
Only just joined. Didnít release about 10 posts rule.
When Iíve thought of 7 more interesting things to post Iíll have the kids post a pic.
Wound my AD up yesterday, just spent 2 hours chatting, after concluding business and last going off I expressed my desire for a 5231J.
Off one waiting list, but hopefully will be put on another.
I shouldnít worry about being interesting, we get lots of Nautilus and Aquanaut posts.
__________________
Instagram @scu16m
Russell996 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 31 August 2019, 05:33 AM   #90
AK797
"TRF" Member
 
AK797's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Real Name: Neil
Location: UK
Watch: ing ships roll in
Posts: 55,340
Quote:
Originally Posted by DGP View Post
Thanks Pim, after this post Iím now halfway to being able to post a photo
Just go thru some incoming posts here and congrat the new owners.
AK797 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


*Banners Of The Month*
This space is provided to horological resources.





Copyright ©2004-2019, The Rolex Forums. All Rights Reserved.

ROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEX

Rolex is a registered trademark of ROLEX USA. The Rolex Forums is not affiliated with ROLEX USA in any way.